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alfromcolorado
05-11-2009, 14:33
From an article in The Journal of International Security Affairs, Spring 2009:

Wishful Thinking and Indecisive Wars by Ralph Peters


The most troubling aspect of international security for the United States is not the killing power of our immediate enemies, which remains modest in historical terms, but our increasingly effete view of warfare. The greatest advantage our opponents enjoy is an uncompromising strength of will, their readiness to "pay any price and bear any burden" to hurt or humble us. As our enemies' view of what is permissible in war expands apocalyptically, our self-limiting definitions of allowable targets and acceptable casualties-hostile, civilian and our own-continue to narrow fatefully. Our enemies cannot defeat us in direct confrontations, but we appear determined to defeat ourselves.

Much has been made over the past two decades of "asymetric warfare", in which the ill-equipped confront the superbly armed by changing the rules of the battlefield. Yet, such irregular warfare is not new-it is warfare's oldest form, the stone against the bronze tipped spear-and the crucial asymmetry does not lie in weaponry, but in moral courage. While our most resolute current enemies-Islamist extremists-may violate our conceptions of morality and ethics, they also are willing to sacrifice more, suffer more and kill more (even among their own kind) than we are. We become mired in the details of minor missteps, while fanatical holy warriors consecrate their lives to their ultimate vision. They live their cause, but we do not live ours. We have forgotten what warfare means and what it takes to win.

It is an interesting article. Guy makes a lot of good points in it.

nmap
05-11-2009, 16:38
Sir, if I may be permitted to add a link...

http://www.securityaffairs.org/issues/2009/16/peters.php

As you say, it is a thought-provoking article. Thank you.

Pete
05-11-2009, 17:10
I liked this part:

"When the United States is forced to go to war—or decides to go to war—it must intend to win. That means that rather than setting civilian apparatchiks to calculate minimum force levels, we need to bring every possible resource to bear from the outset—an approach that saves blood and treasure in the long run. And we must stop obsessing about our minor sins. Warfare will never be clean, soldiers will always make mistakes, and rounds will always go astray, despite our conscientious safeguards and best intentions. Instead of agonizing over a fatal mistake made by a young Marine at a roadblock, we must return to the fundamental recognition that the greatest “war crime” the United States can commit is to lose. "

The Reaper
05-11-2009, 18:12
I liked this part:

"When the United States is forced to go to war—or decides to go to war—it must intend to win. That means that rather than setting civilian apparatchiks to calculate minimum force levels, we need to bring every possible resource to bear from the outset—an approach that saves blood and treasure in the long run. And we must stop obsessing about our minor sins. Warfare will never be clean, soldiers will always make mistakes, and rounds will always go astray, despite our conscientious safeguards and best intentions. Instead of agonizing over a fatal mistake made by a young Marine at a roadblock, we must return to the fundamental recognition that the greatest “war crime” the United States can commit is to lose. "

Maybe the POTUS should appoint a war czar.:rolleyes:

TR

Ret10Echo
05-11-2009, 19:03
Maybe the POTUS should appoint a war czar.:rolleyes:

TR

He can work with the Chief Executive Czar....imagine all the free time that would create....

alfromcolorado
05-11-2009, 19:27
Sir, if I may be permitted to add a link...

http://www.securityaffairs.org/issues/2009/16/peters.php

As you say, it is a thought-provoking article. Thank you.

Thanks bro, although it doesn't make me feel better about buying the rag...:(

alfromcolorado
05-11-2009, 19:33
I like this one...

One of the many disheartening results of our willful ignorance has been well-intentioned, inane claims to the effect that “war doesn’t change anything” and that “war isn’t the answer,” that we all need to “give peace a chance.” Who among us would not love to live in such a splendid world? Unfortunately, the world in which we do live remains one in which war is the primary means of resolving humanity’s grandest disagreements, as well as supplying the answer to plenty of questions. As for giving peace a chance, the sentiment is nice, but it does not work when your self-appointed enemy wants to kill you. Gandhi’s campaign of non-violence (often quite violent in its reality) only worked because his opponent was willing to play along. Gandhi would not have survived very long in Nazi Germany, Stalin’s Russia, Mao’s (or today’s) China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, or Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. Effective non-violence is contractual. Where the contract does not exist, Gandhi dies.

And a good counter to "liberal" thought...

In closing, we must dispose of one last mantra that has been too broadly and uncritically accepted: the nonsense that, if we win by fighting as fiercely as our enemies, we will “become just like them.” To convince Imperial Japan of its defeat, we not only had to fire-bomb Japanese cities, but drop two atomic bombs. Did we then become like the Japanese of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere? Did we subsequently invade other lands with the goal of permanent conquest, enslaving their populations? Did our destruction of German cities—also necessary for victory—turn us into Nazis? Of course, you can find a few campus leftists who think so, but they have yet to reveal the location of our death camps.