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Mitch
04-18-2009, 17:08
I asked this qestion before on a different thread - no answers yet, so I'll give it its on thread and start it off with a couple of hints.

1. It is not served in a bar that the general public can go into.

2. It was in Germany.

I did a google for it myself and nothing came up so it is in-deed rare. But I did drink this once - once was enough.


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Ever hear of Gelbe Stuka?

Tastes almost as bad as Razeputz - a real gag reflex initiator.

We were told that it means "Bird of Prey Piss."

But if you were ever allowed to drink it - you earned it. And you were glad to do so.

Anybody know where it comes form?

mojaveman
04-18-2009, 17:58
My goodness Mitch, you seem to have quite a fondness for German beverages that contain alcohol. Have you become thirsty in your golden years?

My tranlsation of Gelbe Stuka came out to something like:

Gelb= yellow

Stuka= Sturzkampfflugzeug= plane that dives in battle

I don't know where bird came from. The fact that it's yellow scares me a little. Sorry, but I'll have to say that I've never drank one, and I've drank quite a few different things while I was in Germany. Love the place by the way.

Tschussi!

Mitch
04-18-2009, 21:57
My heavens Mitch, you seem to have quite a fondness for German beverages that contain alcohol. Have you become thirsty in your golden years?


Tschussi!


Other than Milk - I can't even think of a German Beverage that does not contain alcohol - or that can't be meaningfully combined with alcohol.

Fortunatley, my drinking was mostly social back then, but then, most everyone I knew felt that the only way to be socialble was to drink - kind of a self fullfilling spiral.

These days - it is just not a part of my life, that is unless, I run into some old friends.

zauber1
04-19-2009, 10:21
Other than Milk - I can't even think of a German Beverage that does not contain alcohol - or that can't be meaningfully combined with alcohol.


The Germans in my area (Grafenwoehr) must have been more creative. Milk with SCOTCH was popular in the Metropol Bar (same bar that Elvis used to sing in when he was serving there).

Never heard of a Yellow Divebomber but they also had a drink that was Escorial based called a Monkey. It was set on fire before consumption.

Was the Gelbe Stuka based on Advocat? That is the only yellow liquer I can think of that was popular in German drinking culture.

mojaveman
04-19-2009, 18:24
1. It is not served in a bar that the general public can go into.

Allright Mitch,

I've racked my brain enough. Is it a speciality drink that's only served in one of the places that I'm thinking about? You know, on one of the little side streets downtown near the Bahnhof? Blonde hair, lingerie, perfume...

Bis Spater

Mitch
04-19-2009, 20:41
1. It is not served in a bar that the general public can go into.

Allright Mitch,

I've racked my brain enough. Is it a speciality drink that's only served in one of the places that I'm thinking about? You know, on one of the little side streets downtown near the Bahnhof? Blonde hair, lingerie, perfume...

Bis Spater

Don't want to push this riddle too far - so here is another hint.

Gelbe Stuka was a cerimonial initiation drink - used by a German military unit.

So this is a very narrow knowledebase. Like I said, I googled it it doesn't show up.

mojaveman
04-19-2009, 21:48
Don't want to push this riddle too far - so here is another hint.

Gelbe Stuka was a cerimonial initiation drink - used by a German military unit.

So this is a very narrow knowledebase. Like I said, I googled it it doesn't show up.

It must be something that the Fallschirmjagers (paratroopers) drink. Something like a radler but a little more bitter. Perhaps with lemon juice. The yellow color still scares me though and I'm begining to think it could be a little wierd.

Bis Bald

Mitch
04-20-2009, 01:45
1. It is not served in a bar that the general public can go into.

Allright Mitch,

I've racked my brain enough. Is it a speciality drink that's only served in one of the places that I'm thinking about? You know, on one of the little side streets downtown near the Bahnhof? Blonde hair, lingerie, perfume...

Bis Spater


Getting close - these guys were airborne qualified.

Utah Bob
04-20-2009, 07:54
Some kind of a Fallschirmjaeger drink??

alfromcolorado
04-20-2009, 11:03
Getting close - these guys were airborne qualified.

GSG9?

JJ_BPK
04-20-2009, 11:51
Instead of lemonade??

ZonieDiver
04-20-2009, 12:22
Instead of lemonade??

Damn, there goes my night water jump! :D

mojaveman
04-20-2009, 13:39
Listerine and Vodka?

That concoction would have a high gag reflex.

Utah Bob
04-21-2009, 13:38
GSG9?

Could be. Those guys'll do anything!;)

Mitch
04-22-2009, 00:57
Could be. Those guys'll do anything!;)

You guys were getting pretty close.

But just one more hint - they they drink their Gelbe Stuka just once in a career and they do it in Eckernförder.



Does that help?

zauber1
04-23-2009, 20:54
You guys were getting pretty close.

they do it in Eckernförder.


Seebattalione? In April 1958 a marine engineer battalion was raised for the Federal German Navy and was initially under the command of the destroyer forces commander. After several reorganizations, the amphibious groups of the federal navy were dissolved or reassigned in 1993. I didn't think these guys were parachute qualified.

And I agree that GSG9 would do nearly anything.

RichL025
04-23-2009, 22:03
KSK

Mitch
04-24-2009, 00:10
KSK

Richtig! :)

mojaveman
04-24-2009, 00:28
Richtig! :)

Ok, we know the folks who drink it but the contents remain a mystery. Should I ask or should I stick with my imagination? Eeeeyuu!

Mitch
04-24-2009, 01:51
KSK

Ok, we know the folks who drink it but the contents remain a mystery. Should I ask or should I stick with my imagination? Eeeeyuu!

Well, I remember a few ingredients - and one major one, but there were others that I can only guess at. When I have more time, I'll tell how all this came to pass - but essentially, my team went through about 3 weeks of training with the Kampfschwimmerkompanie back in 1974. It was tough and they worked us pretty hard - at the end of our time there, we were finally allowed to go into their private Kantine - up on the second floor of their HQ. It was a nice place, thick wooden tables and a bar. Once inside, we noticed this large bowel on one of the tables. They told us that we were being brought into the "brotherhood" but we had to drink the initiation drink, they called it "Gelbe Stukka". They gave each of us a special pewter cup to drink from - then they told us that if we could keep it down, we could keep the cup.

The primary mixture, according to them, was Addler-pisse or eagle piss. Well we had come that far, this last little indignity was really nothing. As we started to dip our cups, they told us to wait – they started to add a few other things in there – various bottles of schnapps and bier – there were things floating in there too – sea weed, kelp, who knows. Anyway – finally they were ready. We all filled our cups – I took a sniff – it definitely had a piss smell – I knew I was going to puke – but after all we had been through – there was no way I was not going to drink that stuff.
Finally – “Eins, Zwei– G’suffa.

Just like Mom’s castor oil – we all survived. But that little cup quickly went into my pocket and I went looking for a Beer.

One more thing – just a while after that – they brought in these beautiful Beer Steins that had the KSK logo on them - and to our surprise, our names too ( I guess they had confidence in us). I’ve still got mine (see the picture). To me, it’s priceless.


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alfromcolorado
04-24-2009, 06:06
Richtig! :)

That logo of theirs passed through my head but I couldn't think of what their name was... I never hung around them either, just remembered seeing it.

You'd think they would have come up with something that wasn't WWII era LUFTWAFFE to call it!!!

Maybe a Gelbes Fisch

Richard
04-24-2009, 06:32
Spent time with a number of units throughout the FRG and they all had some form of traditonal challenge (e.g., die Bayerische Olympische Spielen for mountain units) or concoction to drink. Many merely mixed Sekt (champagne-like German wine) with a colored substance to emulate their branch insignia colors (e.g., red = artillery, blue = technical/support, etc.).

We have similar traditions for things like a Prop Blast Ceremony or during a Regimental Dining-In.

Personally, I always enjoyed the camraderie which went along with such traditions and have many fond (and some not so fond) memories of it all.

Mitch - nice mug from the Gruppe 3402 ffolkes.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Stras
04-24-2009, 07:24
Kampfschwimmers are the guys in Eckenforde (German Navy Seals).


KSK is the Kommand Spezial Krafte in Calw which was formed in 1997/1998 from Fallschirmjaeger Battalion 251 and 252.

Utah Bob
04-24-2009, 08:16
Once inside, we noticed this large bowel on one of the tables.

Never a good sign!:D

RichL025
04-24-2009, 08:48
Stras,

Kampfschwimmers are the guys in Eckenforde (German Navy Seals).


KSK is the Kommand Spezial Krafte in Calw which was formed in 1997/1998 from Fallschirmjaeger Battalion 251 and 252.

Before they stood up that unit, the Kampfschwimmerkompanie was known (by us, at least) as the KSK - a few of the guys on the B co dive team had T-shirts with that logo from some joint training a few years before I got there.

Rich

alfromcolorado
04-24-2009, 16:14
I forgot a few memories down there in Mittenwald shortly after I synapsed them.

Spent time with a number of units throughout the FRG and they all had some form of traditonal challenge (e.g., die Bayerische Olympische Spielen for mountain units) or concoction to drink. Many merely mixed Sekt (champagne-like German wine) with a colored substance to emulate their branch insignia colors (e.g., red = artillery, blue = technical/support, etc.).

We have similar traditions for things like a Prop Blast Ceremony or during a Regimental Dining-In.

Personally, I always enjoyed the camraderie which went along with such traditions and have many fond (and some not so fond) memories of it all.

Mitch - nice mug from the Gruppe 3402 ffolkes.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Mitch
04-25-2009, 12:15
Mitch - nice mug from the Gruppe 3402 ffolkes.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Not familiar with Gruppe 3402, or maybe I was once and now just CRS!

Richard
04-25-2009, 12:44
Not familiar with Gruppe 3402, or maybe I was once and now just CRS!

Official ID of the old KSK.

http://www.sondereinheiten.de/einheiten/kampfschwimmer/

KSK now has a different meaning since the reorganization of 1991.

Richard

Mitch
04-25-2009, 14:47
Official ID of the old KSK.

http://www.sondereinheiten.de/einheiten/kampfschwimmer/

KSK now has a different meaning since the reorganization of 1991.

Richard

Interesting read (auf Deutsch), never knew they had a specific unit number - guess it just never came up. Also did not realize that the building they were in, in 1974, was that new, although it did look new. Everything they had was state of the art, best quality, very substantial - I just accepted that as being typical German.

The primary purpose, for this training, for us anyway, was to get some experience in their equipment - the Dräger LAR III Rebreathers. We had just purchased a dozen of these units, direct from the factory, but we didn't have any experience with them. Generally rebreathers, provided the stealth and secrecy needed to make swims inside enemy dock and port facilities - virtually no bubbles. These Drägers just happened to be the best, by far, available in Europe at that time.

But the Germans said that if we wanted training, we had to do it their way - which included all their little "small steps" to learning, all their incremental measures for safety and thoroughness - also they wanted to stress the man well beyond his comfort zone.

Once we finished the pool training, which took up the entire first week we were there, we started with swims in and around the small naval port/docks in Eckernförder (see the picture below). Eventually we went out to sea as far out as 20 miles up the coast for some real open water experiences - day and night. The conditions in the Eckernförder Bucht (Bay) were pretty mild and tame - thus the trips north.

By the way, the only limitation with this or any other normal Rebreather was in "depth" - usually limited to no more than 30 feet (we puhed it) - though the book recommended only half that to avoid o2 poisoning (that's another lengthy subject). This problem was in the process of being solved too just a few years later with the introduction of the CCR 1000 (also another lengthy topic).

Our experience was mutually so good - that we were invited back the following year for a refresher, which for the most part, was just to conduct raids on their port - we skipped all the "tediousness" of the first trip up there that time - we also skipped the Gelbe Stukka.


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Note: That's Dennis Hebler and Bob Picknell there with me - two excellent divers and good friends too.

mojaveman
04-25-2009, 14:53
If you could remember the recipe Mitch perhaps you could market the Gelbe Stuka as an energy drink and make millions. You could even have a label on the bottle with an image of a diver on it.

Mitch
04-25-2009, 15:04
If you coluld remember the recipe Mitch perhaps you could market the Gelbe Stuka as an energy drink and make millions. You could even have a label on the bottle with an image of a diver on it.

Ha Ha, I doubt that anyone would ever buy more than one of those - it was pretty aweful (although, I realy don't think it had any kind of urine in it - we were just led to believe that - and we did). It did have a major kick to it - once you got past the taste.

Also - probably would "piss off" a few Kampfschwimmers.