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Richard
03-15-2009, 12:31
Some critical thinking going on in the five-sided concrete squirrel cage... ;)
Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pentagon Rethinking Old Doctrine on 2 Wars
Thom Shanker, NYT, 14 Mar 2009

The protracted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are forcing the Obama administration to rethink what for more than two decades has been a central premise of American strategy: that the nation need only prepare to fight two major wars at a time.

For more than six years now, the United States has in fact been fighting two wars, with more than 170,000 troops now deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. The military has openly acknowledged that the wars have left troops and equipment severely strained, and has said that it would be difficult to carry out any kind of significant operation elsewhere.

To some extent, fears have faded that the United States may actually have to fight, say, Russia and North Korea, or China and Iran, at the same time. But if Iraq and Afghanistan were never formidable foes in conventional terms, they have already tied up the American military for a period longer than World War II.

A senior Defense Department official involved in a strategy review now under way said the Pentagon was absorbing the lesson that the kinds of counterinsurgency campaigns likely to be part of some future wars would require more staying power than in past conflicts, like the first Iraq war in 1991 or the invasions of Grenada and Panama.

In an interview with National Public Radio last week, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates made it clear that the Pentagon was beginning to reconsider whether the old two-wars assumption “makes any sense in the 21st century” as a guide to planning, budgeting and weapons-buying.

The discussion is being prompted by a top-to-bottom strategy review that the Pentagon conducts every four years, as required by Congress and officially called the Quadrennial Defense Review. One question on the table for Pentagon planners is whether there is a way to reshape the armed forces to provide for more flexibility in tackling a wide range of conflicts.

Among other questions are the extent to which planning for conflicts should focus primarily on counterinsurgency wars like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, and what focus remains on well-equipped conventional adversaries like China and Iran, with which Navy vessels have clashed at sea.

Thomas Donnelly, a defense policy expert with the conservative American Enterprise Institute, said he believed that the Obama administration would be seeking to come up with “a multiwar, multioperation, multifront, walk-and-chew-gum construct.”

“We have to do many things simultaneously if our goal is to remain the ultimate guarantor of international security,” Mr. Donnelly said. “The hedge against a rising China requires a very different kind of force than fighting an irregular war in Afghanistan or invading Iraq or building partnership capacity in Africa.”

But Mr. Donnelly cautioned that the review now under way faced a familiar challenge. “If there has been one consistent thread through all previous defense reviews,” he said, “it is that once the review is done, there is an almost immediate gap between reality and force planning. Reality always exceeds force planning.”

It is already is obvious, a senior Pentagon official said, that the Defense Department will “need to rebalance our strategy and our forces” in a way that reflects lessons from Afghanistan and Iraq. Exactly how that happens will be debated for months to come and will then play out in decisions involving hundreds of billions of dollars, involving the size of the Army, as well as such things as the number of aircraft carriers and new long-range bombers.

Michael E. O’Hanlon, a senior fellow with the Brookings Institution, a liberal-centrist policy organization, said that senior Pentagon officials knew that the new review needed to more fully analyze what the rest of the government could bring to national security.

“We have Gates and others saying that other parts of the government are underresourced and that the DoD should not be called on to do everything” Mr. O’Hanlon said. “That’s a good starting point for this — to ask and at least begin answering where it might be better to have other parts of the government get stronger and do a bigger share, rather than the Department of Defense.”

Among the refinements to the two-wars strategy the Pentagon has incorporated in recent years is one known as “win-hold-win” — an assumption that if two wars broke out simultaneously, the more threatening conflict would get the bulk of American forces while the military would have to defend along a second front until reinforcements could arrive to finish the job.

Another formulation envisioned the United States defending its territory, deterring hostility in four critical areas of the world and then defeating two adversaries in major combat operations, but not at exactly the same time.

The Bush administration’s most recent strategy, completed four years ago, added requirements that the military be equipped to deal with a broad range of missions in addition to war-fighting, including defeating violent extremists, defending American territory, helping countries at strategic crossroads and preventing terrorists and adversaries from obtaining biological, chemical or nuclear weapons.

But Pentagon officials are now asking whether the current reality, with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq already outlasting World War II, really fits any of those models. “One of the things that stresses our force greatly is long-duration operations,” the senior Pentagon official said. “It’s the requirement to continue to rotate forces in over many, many rotations that really strains a lot of the force.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/washington/15military.html?_r=1

Pete
03-15-2009, 12:45
Hind sight is 20/20.

The new Army is designed from the last war. The next war is never the same.

Some dude hated by some said "You go to war with the Army you have, ......"

The "Old" Army was designed for the European Slugfest with the Warsaw Pact. With the fall of the USSR the US Military thought we could down size to a mid-range Army able to fight two small, fairly regional wars at once. So it downsized.

During the start of the downsizing the first Gulf War came along.

Somalia, the Balkins, meals on wheels and similar stuff was kinda' the mind set after GW I.

The pesky problem was they never really nailed down the size of what a small fairly regional war was.

And the next plan will probably be way short of 20/20.

But it is still better to have a plan you can change than no plan at all.

greenberetTFS
03-15-2009, 16:27
Hind sight is 20/20.

The new Army is designed from the last war. The next war is never the same.

Some dude hated by some said "You go to war with the Army you have, ......"

The "Old" Army was designed for the European Slugfest with the Warsaw Pact. With the fall of the USSR the US Military thought we could down size to a mid-range Army able to fight two small, fairly regional wars at once. So it downsized.

During the start of the downsizing the first Gulf War came along.

Somalia, the Balkins, meals on wheels and similar stuff was kinda' the mind set after GW I.

The pesky problem was they never really nailed down the size of what a small fairly regional war was.

And the next plan will probably be way short of 20/20.

But it is still better to have a plan you can change than no plan at all.

I don't know Pete, But what your saying kinda makes sense to me.................

GB TFS :munchin

Surf n Turf
03-15-2009, 21:18
Among other questions are the extent to which planning for conflicts should focus primarily on counterinsurgency wars like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, and what focus remains on well-equipped conventional adversaries like China and Iran, with which Navy vessels have clashed at sea.
Another formulation envisioned the United States defending its territory, deterring hostility in four critical areas of the world and then defeating two adversaries in major combat operations, but not at exactly the same time.

the US Military thought we could down size to a mid-range Army able to fight two small, fairly regional wars at once. So it downsized.

Richard,
I am in agreement that we need to radically revisit the Quadrennial Defense Review, and incorporate much of what has been “lessons learned” in the last 20 years. But, being the skeptic that I am, I wonder how much of Military doctrine is based on strategy (old war, two war, counterinsurgency, etc.), and how much is service based interest in obtaining the maximum from the DoD budget. IMVHO, most of the “big ticket” items in the budget are obsolete in presentation, concept and practice.
The concept of a multi-faceted WWII ++ is to ensure the growth of each of the individual services internal doctrine and relevance.
“It is already is obvious, a senior Pentagon official said, that the Defense Department will “need to rebalance our strategy and our forces” in a way that reflects lessons from Afghanistan and Iraq. Exactly how that happens will be debated for months to come and will then play out in decisions involving hundreds of billions of dollars , involving the size of the Army, as well as such things as the number of aircraft carriers and new long-range bombers.”
The Aircraft Carrier was made obsolete with the advent of TacNuke. Drop one in the neighborhood, and bye-bye CVA. Unmanned computer aided air assets have made the fighter / bomber near obsolete. They can go faster, pull more “G’s”, deliver more precision, and not put pilots in harms-way. Ditto for Tanks / Artillery. When you can launch precision munitions from dispersed locations, the weapon of choice should be the MQ-1 Predator, not the M1 Abrams.Of course, you cannot become an Admiral without a fleet, an AF General without an airwing, nor a Corp commander, without a corp.
Your thoughts?

Pete,
For good or ill, I don’t believe the US Military willingly thought it could “downsize”, and did so only grudgingly, with some very heavy pressure from the “Peace Dividend” of the William Jefferson Clinton Administration, and further guidance of SecDef Donald Henry Rumsfeld.
I do not believe they have a forward looking strategy or plan other than self promotion and maintaining the status quo. It was that way after WWI, and WWII., and that was with “patriots” running the show on both the civilian and military side.
SnT