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Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 12:58
I know we started on this before, but I want a whole thread on this. My Bush-Cheney lawn signs keep getting stolen, including in broad daylight yesterday. I'm looking for creative solutions to this problem.
Understand the problem:
There are more Kucinich signs in my neighborhood than Bush signs
I live on a traffic street
I don't have time to stake out the sign
I do have some surveillance equipment I can use
I'm willing to build some non-lethal devices
OK, help me out here! :munchin
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 13:07
BTW, I just ordered 25 more signs so I can keep replacing them. :cool:
The Reaper
06-22-2004, 13:08
Put a camera inside your house, pointed at the sign, zoomed in close enough to get an adult standing by the sign. A second camera should be placed to get the license number, if they came by vehicle.
Place the sign where it will be illuminated well enough to get a good pic.
As your Samoan attorney, I have to remind you that any boobytrap which injures someone is going to get you a trip to the court as a defendant rather than an attorney, so keep it safe.
I would want to find out who is doing it (likely a neighbor), rather than trying to scare them right then, and would recommend creative repayment options once you discover who it is. As an attorney, I am sure that you have lots of form letters and ideas on how to make their life more interesting.
Maybe wait till they are out of town for a little while, and put several B-C signs on their lawn, so they do not have to steal them.
HTH.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 13:13
Originally posted by The Reaper
I would want to find out who is doing it (likely a neighbor), rather than trying to scare them right then, and would recommend creative repayment options once you discover who it is.
Not only do I doubt it is a neighbor, but I doubt that we are looking at a single perpetrator.
In Los Angeles, neighbors rarely know one another, speak to one another or walk around the neighborhood. Let alone steal each other's lawn signs.
Although very residential, my street is used heavily as a shortcut into a major commercial area. I'm sure there have been a number of people stopping and taking the signs.
You don't need to remind me about injuring people. I am looking for creative ways to deter them, like Team Sergeant's fake IED concept. Surveillance on video is one thing I'm considering.
Kyobanim
06-22-2004, 13:17
Invite the neighborhood cats over and have them spray the sign. That should keep people with a normal or good sense of smell away or . . .
move to the U.S.
Smokin Joe
06-22-2004, 13:19
Electrify the sign and put a warning next to it. :cool:
Team Sergeant
06-22-2004, 13:24
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I am looking for creative ways to deter them, like Team Sergeant's fake IED concept. Surveillance on video is one thing I'm considering.
When did I say it was a fake IED? I am insulted.
When did it become illegal to place a box with wires in your yard?
If I were in your shoes I'd have the police there everytime one turned up missing filling out a theft report.
Someone already memtioned "Move back to America".
(You've already lost S Calif.)
TS
The Reaper
06-22-2004, 13:30
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Not only do I doubt it is a neighbor, but I doubt that we are looking at a single perpetrator.
In Los Angeles, neighbors rarely know one another, speak to one another or walk around the neighborhood. Let alone steal each other's lawn signs.
Although very residential, my street is used heavily as a shortcut into a major commercial area. I'm sure there have been a number of people stopping and taking the signs.
You don't need to remind me about injuring people. I am looking for creative ways to deter them, like Team Sergeant's fake IED concept. Surveillance on video is one thing I'm considering.
I stand corrected on all counts, and will leave you and the TS to your own devices.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 13:31
Here is the Team Sergeant's post from the other thread:
Take a small cardboard box, place two bricks in the box. Close and seal the box with duct tape. Obtain a deck of cards, cover with duct tape and place on sign post. Take four-six wires of different colors about three feet long and tape them to different locations on your sign and two into the deck of cards that is attached to sign post. Place the other end of the wires into the box and place box in plain view of would be sign thief.
{In your case you may wish to replace bricks with water balloons.}
I like the concept. Looking for similar ideas. :D
The Reaper
06-22-2004, 13:53
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Here is the Team Sergeant's post from the other thread:
I like the concept. Looking for similar ideas. :D
I look forward to hearing about your encounter with the Bomb Squad, and your wife learns what a "clearing charge" is.
Do you have represenatation on retainer, or does your firm provide that pro bono?
TR
Sacamuelas
06-22-2004, 14:06
You have any friends that large game hunt?
Well, maybe I should first ask if you have ANY friends at all, right ? ;) LOL Just kidding
Back to the original topic, see if any of your friends have one of the motion sensing game trail cameras. I have several buddies that have these. You can get them from cabelas, etc.
You set them up aimed at the target area. They have a 35mm camera inside a waterproof enclosure which is attached to a motion detector. When an "animal" comes into the area, it takes a picture with the date and time stamped on the pic. Useful for tracking game patterns as well as your present predicament.
Team Sergeant
06-22-2004, 14:12
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
You have any friends that large game hunt?
Well, maybe I should first ask if you have ANY friends at all, right ? ;) LOL Just kidding
Back to the original topic, see if any of your friends have one of the motion sensing game trail cameras. I have several buddies that have these. You can get them from cabelas, etc.
You set them up aimed at the target area. They have a 35mm camera inside a waterproof enclosure which is attached to a motion detector. When an "animal" comes into the area, it takes a picture with the date and time stamped on the pic. Useful for tracking game patterns as well as your present predicament.
Saca, That works well for animals that cannot take the camera....
Hide the cameras. Use TR's idea. Set up two cameras, the other to get the auto lic.. Take evidence to the police.
If they don't act on it, get a lawyer.
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:13
What the hell, here's the AO (LOL):
The house is built on the side of a hill, so the driveway slopes up from the street. The planter boxes at the front of the house are cement, and about three to three and a half feet tall. The cement is about two feet deep on top (there is room to put stuff there), and there are bushes and things to hide things in in the planters.
Ambush Master
06-22-2004, 14:13
OK, here we go. 1974-1978 time frame. I had an office in the Hangar and occasionally Mechanics would jimmy the door and raid my supplies that I would be collecting for some project, thus putting me back to square one re-ordering whatever they took. Well, none of my fellow employees or friends for that matter knew anything about my background i.e. the SOG stuff because I couldn't talk about it. I got a 12"X12"X14" Box from one of my suppliers, picked up 5 12" Square Mirror tiles, some wire, a soldering gun, a 90 volt capacitance discharge batterypack from an old Polaroid Camera Wink-Light, and 24 Clear Large Press Flashbulbs !!! I set one tile in the bottom and then angled the ones on the sides to focus the light upward then I soldered all of the bulbs together, placed said battery behind one of the tiles and rigged my double loop switch taping one loop to the inside bottom of the box and the other to the insides of the last two lids that would be opened.
Went home for the night and the next morning the Director of Maintenance asked me what the hell I rigged that thing for and that the Mechanic that had triggered it had quit as soon as his sight recovered enough to see and leave. Others were laughing their asses off and one said that he had been out around the side of the hanger on the wash rack when it went off. He said that it lit up the treeline on the far side of the field !!
They never again would enter that office if I was not in it !! :munchin
Later
Martin
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:16
Originally posted by Team Sergeant
If they don't act on it, get a lawyer.
Oh please, like that's going to help! LOL
These signs cost $5. Not enough to involve the police or a lawyer. Not enough to hurt someone either. But I do want to find a creative, non-lethal, legal way to dissuade people from stealing my signs.
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:19
Originally posted by Ambush Master
OK, here we go. 1974-1978 time frame. I had an office in the Hangar and occasionally Mechanics would jimmy the door and raid my supplies that I would be collecting for some project, thus putting me back to square one re-ordering whatever they took. Well, none of my fellow employees or friends for that matter knew anything about my background i.e. the SOG stuff because I couldn't talk about it. I got a 12"X12"X14" Box from one of my suppliers, picked up 5 12" Square Mirror tiles, some wire, a soldering gun, a 90 volt capacitance discharge batterypack from an old Polaroid Camera Wink-Light, and 24 Clear Large Press Flashbulbs !!! I set one tile in the bottom and then angled the ones on the sides to focus the light upward then I soldered all of the bulbs together, placed said battery behind one of the tiles and rigged my double loop switch taping one loop to the inside bottom of the box and the other to the insides of the last two lids that would be opened.
Went home for the night and the next morning the Director of Maintenance asked me what the hell I rigged that thing for and that the Mechanic that had triggered it had quit as soon as his sight recovered enough to see and leave. Others were laughing their asses off and one said that he had been out around the side of the hanger on the wash rack when it went off. He said that it lit up the treeline on the far side of the field !!
They never again would enter that office if I was not in it !! :munchin
Later
Martin
Outstanding!
Wouldn't want to make any cars crash with something like that here, but great story!
Team Sergeant
06-22-2004, 14:33
Is there a “noll” in the grassy area?
Just a thought....
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:35
Originally posted by Kyobanim
Invite the neighborhood cats over and have them spray the sign. That should keep people with a normal or good sense of smell away
You know what, this is a good idea.
The sign is plastic, like the plastic in garbage bags. It is pulled over the top of a metal wire frame.
Seems to me that some oil or shortening might make it tough to remove. And if I can add something unpleasant to the oil that will stick on anyone who tries to take it, we may have our solution!
Thoughts, anyone?
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:37
Originally posted by Team Sergeant
Is there a “noll” in the grassy area?
Just a thought....
LOL
No, but plenty of good sniper positions in the area, starting with my roof.
I could sit up there with a paintball gun . . .
It looks like you are putting it so close to the street that you are begging someone to steal it. :D
25 x 5 = $125
Just spend a few more dollars and put a banner across you gutter.
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:39
Originally posted by Sigi
Just spend a few more dollars and put a banner across you gutter.
I have actually thought about hanging a huge banner from my roof, but I think that would be a little over the top. [/rimshot]
Sacamuelas
06-22-2004, 14:43
Add something like this to the bottom of the sign if you are just trying to "dissuade" them.
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 14:43
Originally posted by Sigi
25 x 5 = $125
Now can you appreciate the outrage? We're talking almost three fifths of Blanton's! :mad:
Kyobanim
06-22-2004, 14:51
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Now can you appreciate the outrage? We're talking almost three fifths of Blanton's! :mad:
Or a 10 minute consultation
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 15:21
Originally posted by Kyobanim
Or a 10 minute consultation
18.
LOL
I know this is getting on your nerves RL, but the whole situation reminds me of Bill Murray in Caddyshack trying to catch the Gofers.
Sandy: "Kill every gopher on the course."
Carl: "Check me if I'm wrong Sandy, but if I kill all golfers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key."
Sandy: "Gophers! The little brown furry rodents."
Carl: "We can do that. We don't even have to have a reason."
Sandy: "Do it man!"
Carl: "All right, let's do the same thing, but with gophers."
http://www.bushwood.net/shack/caddy034.JPG
Spray something that smells horrible all over the sign. Stick thumb tacks or glass to the edges.
Option one works like a dream.
Solid
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 15:40
Originally posted by Solid
Spray something that smells horrible all over the sign.
Like what?
Rig a pumped up super soaker filled with some sort of nasty smelling or colored liquid and a trigger system of sorts (pretty easy to make from a few basic gadgets)
Not sure what the laws says about ruining someones clothes with that though - :)
-Tet
A couple cans of sardines or anchovies opened and left in the sun for a few days develops a distinctive odor. The packing oil or water can then be transferred to the item as required.
Nuoc Mom
I just had to get rid of a bottle for fear it would leak during a move.
The Reaper
06-22-2004, 17:34
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Like what?
So let me get this straight, Counsel.
You are willing to have your yard smell like a sewer in order to keep people from stealing a $5 sign, or investing in some pipe, a few pieces of angle iron, and a bag of Sac-crete?
Before you smear the sign with your own feces like a political punji stick, have you considered moving the sign up into your planter area?
TR
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 17:52
Ok, You kids are getting pretty close. Time for a country boy to step in, bring up a bow hunting supply on the web, find the "human odor masking scent" section. Get the skunk scent. Any questions?
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 17:53
...or I could just shoot a skunk and UPS it to ya.
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 17:55
...skunk spray triggered by wiggling the sign post to remove it!
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 17:59
Originally posted by The Reaper
Before you smear the sign with your own feces like a political punji stick, have you considered moving the sign up into your planter area?
Yuck. Please.
It gets stolen there too, and it is not as visible to traffic.
I'm liking the idea of crisco mixed with something unpleasant, but not that unpleasant.
ghuinness
06-22-2004, 18:00
I was just thinking the same thing....:D
I have always wondered why they sell pepper spray and not skunk spray. So much better and you can track the culprit.
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 18:07
Skunk scent has another advantage, it's organic! Liberals will love that. Then the perp has to sit in his/her Volvo to get away and that will stink too!
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 18:07
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Ok, You kids are getting pretty close. Time for a country boy to step in, bring up a bow hunting supply on the web, find the "human odor masking scent" section. Get the skunk scent. Any questions?
Done. Thank you, sir!
The Reaper
06-22-2004, 18:18
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
...or I could just shoot a skunk and UPS it to ya.
You sure you could hit it?
They are usually smaller than raccoons.
Better stick with the bottled stuff.
Yeah, that will reflect credibly on the B-C ticket.
TR
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 18:22
That's the stuff!
Here in O-hi-o we just put the damn signs in our windows.
But if I was in lib country like you, I would sac up and hang the banner.
My .02 :D
Smokin Joe
06-22-2004, 19:02
Paint Landmine (http://www.shireonline.com/m80trlandmine.html)
I think you should add the optional "Burst Tube" as well.
Hey if you are willing to dedicate to cameras to this operation you might as well spend the extra 50 bucks and get this thing. :D
Just my .02 cents
Roguish Lawyer
06-22-2004, 19:44
I'm going to try smearing the sign and posts with a mixture of crisco and skunk scent. If that doesn't work, I'll try something else.
Thanks to all for the suggestions. :)
Go the OC Spray! That way you can track the fuckers with a UV light AND they won't be able to see for a couple of hours!
Mind you, if they're Hippies,. there's a good chance they've been sprayed a number of times already and know how to wash it off.
Post pics, so we can :munchin and have a good laugh! :D
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 20:04
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I'm going to try smearing the sign and posts with a mixture of crisco and skunk scent. If that doesn't work, I'll try something else.
Thanks to all for the suggestions. :) Good job, I was going to recomend vaseline and put it under the bottom edge of the sign where one naturally grabs it to pull it out of the ground, Use lots. Even coat a stripe down the backside of the post for when they re-adjust the grip to run off. You may want to wear a positive pressure hood when you mix this stuff along with rubber gloves, oh yeah, go ahead and do this on the kitchen counter, trust me, your wife won't mind.
Oh yeah, What Does Catwoman have to say about this planned escapade? That would be an interesting question to have to answer:"Honey, Why is there a bottle of Skunk scent in a box on the porch?" "Oh, it's part of a vast rightwing conspiracy to save the campaign sign, don't concern yourself with it."
On a related note, check out some of the paintball supply shops online, there are several "Paint Mines" that are tripwire activated that require you to mix your own paint solution and are CO2 powered, and I swear I have seen them for less than $50.
Bill Harsey
06-22-2004, 20:33
That's way better than my idea that involves an extension cord and a soaking wet lawn.
Having the fine experience of chopping Thai chilis, then forgetting and wiping my eyes.......get either Thai or Habanero chilies, grind them up and soak them in the solution of your choice. Then add to your skunk/nasty smelling stuff. That way they'll smell and hurt at the same time. I've done the same with the chili's added to a water spray bottle to squirt a cat that was spraying our door. He decided not to return.
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
That's way better than my idea that involves an extension cord and a soaking wet lawn.
LMAO.
Air.177 has a good idea:
On a related note, check out some of the paintball supply shops online, there are several "Paint Mines" that are tripwire activated that require you to mix your own paint solution and are CO2 powered, and I swear I have seen them for less than $50.
And you can save on camera cost. I like this idea.
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
Add something like this to the bottom of the sign if you are just trying to "dissuade" them.
edited to add: Oops image did not attach, anyway the warning sign that Sacamuelas posted.
Good morning all
Have this sign clearly visible, in addition to this, get a dummy CC camera, in other words, a camera that looks like a real working camera, but with no insides (chepaer than the ral thing and just as effective for deterent) , just the box and place it on top of the light, as indicated in your diagram.
Try to ensure that this is inaccesable to the perps as they might pull it down.
This should deter further theft.
In the case that this doesn't work, take some green or clear fishing gut, wire it around the sign perimeter (2 metre radius), hang a semi-auto shotgun in the palm tree rigged to the perimeter gut...oh never mind ;-)
Hoepoe
Or a paint grenade rigged so that the pin pulls when the sign is detached from the lawn... The law here is that it isn't illegal if it can be wiped/washed off, if it's the same in the 'states and paint grenades can't cause serious harm (I don't think they can), then maybe this would be a more fun approach than the ol' skunk scent.
Solid
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
BTW, I just ordered 25 more signs so I can keep replacing them. :cool:
It would have to be in Spanish.:D
I can't give paeticulars. It should be stinky, sticky, loud and bright. Preferrably a combination of all. I had some deranged sucker at Bragg harrassing my wife whenever I wasn't hoime. Amongst other things he cut all of our window screens. I put out the word that I was going to shoot his ass if I caught him then rigged some grenade simulators with trip wires. (I'd have used live ordinance if I could). One night one went off and all of the neighbors were at the house wanting to see the sucker's body. They just knew I shot his ass. I guess he thought so too since I never heard of him again.:D
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 09:04
Originally posted by Air.177
Oh yeah, What Does Catwoman have to say about this planned escapade? That would be an interesting question to have to answer:"Honey, Why is there a bottle of Skunk scent in a box on the porch?" "Oh, it's part of a vast rightwing conspiracy to save the campaign sign, don't concern yourself with it."
She loves the idea. Her comment was, "we'd better tell the gardener." LOL
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 09:07
Originally posted by Guy
It would have to be in Spanish.:D
The Reaper
06-23-2004, 10:21
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
She loves the idea. Her comment was, "we'd better tell the gardener" LOL
Capitalist oppressor.
Bourgeiose exploiter of the proletariat.
Enemy of The People or in this case, "La Raza".
TR
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 10:39
Originally posted by The Reaper
Capitalist oppressor.
Bourgeiose exploiter of the proletariat.
Enemy of The People or in this case, "La Raza".
TR
LMAO
Si, guilty as charged. Division of labor, baby! Haven't mowed a lawn in many years . . . :lifter
Sacamuelas
06-23-2004, 10:54
RL... you need to train those munchins of yours to take care of this little dilemna.
Next phase for mine is tutoring with Ambush Master concerning covert Recon patrols. They just finished HALO . LOL
For the right amount of $$$, I could send them to the people's republic of Cali to help you out.
Who is going to damage my property. I'll end up in jail in this liberal ass state. :o
I'll promote the POTUS in a covert sort of way!;)
Roycroft201
06-23-2004, 12:43
You are all cracking me up !
I like Ambush Master's idea with the flash bulbs, added to the rest of the options. RL, if you combine some of these options and some jerk STILL steals your sign, be sure a camera has caught his image. He'll be a candidate for "America's Most Wanted" TV show. (Atually, a video would be great - I would love to see the whole event on tape here).
And, totally off topic, how many sets of twins do we have on this website ? TS's, and Saca you have twins, too ? Given the number of members, and then the birthrate/number of offspring.....I won't even mention some of the thoughts that ran thru my head ! I will remain a lady, but wow, you guys alone are making sure the libs will never outnumber us !! LOL !!
Now I am going outside to MOW MY OWN LAWN, RL !!
Roycroft201
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 13:19
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
RL... you need to train those munchins of yours to take care of this little dilemna.
In training:
Sacamuelas
06-23-2004, 15:18
Already in a pro-tech helmet trying to be one of those "airline employee" type special forces soldiers, huh? LOL :p
Good lookin' kiddo there RL... he is plenty big to run a surveillance operation for you. Give him your camcorder... go over the intel that you need recorded including the perps face up close, and as much of the car and license plate as possible. Give him proper support ( candy, cokes, pillows to observe through upstairs windows, etc) for his operation. Offer payment which includes unlimited video games one night at the ice hockey arena as a reward.
VOILA!!
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 15:21
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
Offer payment which includes unlimited video games one night at the ice hockey arena as a reward.
You have no idea how far such an offer would go!
You been surveilling my kid, Saca? LOL
Sacamuelas
06-23-2004, 15:50
You think Ambush Master is the only one that knows all about you??? LOL Does your world feel less "secure" all of the sudden? haha
BTW- the last guy who stole you sign did so at 11:43am, drove a blue chevy cavalier with Ca plates, was wearing blue jeans and a white button down shirt... Of course, I am just "guessing", as I would never be spying on you RL.:eek: HAHA
This thread just took a turn for the sinister....
...No, wait, that happened ages ago..
You could paint a few rat traps green, and cammo them up with grass. Hey ,you have a rat problem; the cops will understand.
...out here in the midwest people are using those motion dectector activated sprinklers to keep deer out of their gardens. That might help although probably not during the day...
ccrn
The Reaper
06-23-2004, 20:23
Oh, its all fun, TILL SOMEONE GETS AN EYE PUT OUT!!
TR
How about a security camera with a hook up to the Web?
Ambush Master
06-23-2004, 20:38
Originally posted by QRQ 30
How about a security camera with a hook up to the Web?
AND A HOT-LINK TO HERE!!! We have folks all over the world that could perform the surveillance, 24/7, and give ya a call whenever somebody showed up, or WHENEVER THEY GOT BORED !!!
Hope I helped, and take care.
Martin
Roguish Lawyer
06-23-2004, 20:40
Originally posted by Ambush Master
AND A HOT-LINK TO HERE!!! We have folks all over the world that could perform the surveilance, 24/7, and give ya a call whenever somebody showed up, or WHENEVER THEY GOT BORED !!!
Hmmmm, the RL campaign sign WEB CAM!
I'll have to give that some thought . . . . :D
Team Sergeant
06-23-2004, 21:32
I like it! Campaign sign webcam. Shall we set up the website now?
Bill Harsey
06-24-2004, 08:16
Could you guys imagine some registered democrat getting caught on tape stealing a B/C sign out of someones yard? Then having Jay Leno show morph Kerry's face on it for late night?
RL, for the sake of the Republican Party, you have to get this felon on tape...
or get someone who looks like a felon on tape.
If he looks like Lurch, all the better.
Solid
Bill Harsey
06-24-2004, 08:39
Originally posted by Solid
RL, for the sake of the Republican Party, you have to get this felon on tape...
or get someone who looks like a felon on tape.
If he looks like Lurch, all the better.
Solid You don't need a felon, just a regular democrat.
Ah, I used them interchangeably.
Smokin Joe
06-24-2004, 16:58
Originally posted by Air.177
Oh yeah, What Does Catwoman have to say about this planned escapade? That would be an interesting question to have to answer:"Honey, Why is there a bottle of Skunk scent in a box on the porch?" "Oh, it's part of a vast rightwing conspiracy to save the campaign sign, don't concern yourself with it."
On a related note, check out some of the paintball supply shops online, there are several "Paint Mines" that are tripwire activated that require you to mix your own paint solution and are CO2 powered, and I swear I have seen them for less than $50.
I know I'm late and all but.....WTF? Is my link not good enough for you guys?
:)
Originally posted by Smokin Joe
I know I'm late and all but.....WTF? Is my link not good enough for you guys?
:)
It was fine, But I swear I have seen them cheaper than that.
Roguish Lawyer
06-24-2004, 19:03
Originally posted by Air.177
It was fine, But I swear I have seen them cheaper than that.
Can't . . . resist . . . cheaper than dirt?
Sorry, everyone. LOL
Roguish Lawyer
06-30-2004, 10:05
OK, as soon as the boss briefs the gardener, I'm ready to do this.
Bill Harsey
06-30-2004, 10:11
This is gonna be good!
LOL figure one in the Anarchist's Cookbook.
Sacamuelas
06-30-2004, 12:14
LOL
It IS going to be good.,.... one thing, put those gloves away sissy. ;)
Ambush Master
06-30-2004, 13:02
Just in case, you can get Skunk Neutralizer at most of the large pet stores, in the dog shampoo area.
Bill Harsey
06-30-2004, 13:33
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
OK, as soon as the boss briefs the gardener, I'm ready to do this. Not to be crude or anything but the material in that picture could get you a hot date in some parts of the country.
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Not to be crude or anything but the material in that picture could get you a hot date in some parts of the country.
As well as arrested in some places
As well as arrested in some places
As long as it's AFTER the date, I'm good to go!
:D