View Full Version : California to release 58,000 Inmates
JihadJilson
02-18-2009, 15:32
The below link is to a Reuters news clip about California's reluctant decision to release up to 58,000 inmates. Interesting, glad I don't live in CA. One of the inmates is complaining about health services, I wonder if he thinks it will be better after he is released.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/1032212
or
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=12102252&ch=4226713&src=news
Red Flag 1
02-18-2009, 15:51
The below link is to a Reuters news clip about California's reluctant decision to release up to 58,000 inmates. Interesting, glad I don't live in CA. One of the inmates is complaining about health services, I wonder if he thinks it will be better after he is released.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/1032212
or
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=12102252&ch=4226713&src=news
I guess we should start to worry about Charles Manson getting out:eek:.
Perhaps making room for GITMO folks:confused:.
Laws seem to have been increasingly rewritten, over the decades, to favor the criminal. LE has a hard enough job with the laws as written. With the prison system in CA near meltdown, the wild west may return.
The GITMO coment above was not a joke. CA could use the $ input to their purse.
This gives the term "financial bailout" a whole new meaning!
My $.02.
RF 1
Soft Target
02-18-2009, 16:45
CO Governor has already offered and said Gitmo guests are coming.
they are probably just making room for all of us evil gun owners.......
This is just a part of the package of the state being BROKE....
1st the lay off the Prisoners (Let them out) then they layoff LEO's and that will get them back in the Black.....:p Californication thinking in the state Capital.
This is just a part of the package of the state being BROKE....
They just turned down a 1 billion dollar deal to drill offhsore from the state...
I wonder if they know where they can find sympathy. :D
They just turned down a 1 billion dollar deal to drill offhsore from the state...
I wonder if they know where they can find sympathy. :D
Not Here........
CO Governor has already offered and said Gitmo guests are coming.
Isn't there a semi-new federal ADMAX facility in Florence designed to give them more solitary sedate surroundings? If I recall correctly there are even a few terrorists already burning their home fires there as it is.
What are they thinking; with few jobs for the employable, they will release 58,000 of the chronically unemployed? Street crime should reach new levels of tolerance and understanding.... 58,000 of the physcially fit and stupid roaming the streets...Annie better get her gun!!!
Remember--all is not as it sometimes seems. In the Land of Unintended Consequences (California), for example, there are a lot of ffolkes in prison serving unnecessarily long terms for very minor offenses as a result of the voters passing the "Three Strikes" law. The law was intended to "get tough" on repeat serious crime offenders and as a deterrent---but LEOs, DAs, and Judges also saw it as a way to conveniently remove a great many 'irritants' from their communities...the result being a dramatic rise in the state's prison population and $$$. Now that the LUS is looking at a $42B (yes, B as in Billions) budget shortfall, they are reconsidering their earlier "get tough" zeal and the political bandwagon--being cheered on by a voting public who thinks those $$$ would be better spent assisting them with their insane mortgages and demand for more public works 'stimulus' projects--is heading off once again in another unforeseen direction. And so...round and round it goes...where it stops, nobody knows. And as to the old question of who's running this asylum...:confused:
FWIW--the CHP is still hiring...but a lot of those who are acceptable to be prison guards do not meet the standards of acceptability for the CHP. :rolleyes:
Richard's $.02 :munchin
...Annie better get her gun!!!
I see it as a good thing, and I live here. You are right, Penn. In the Rodney King riots, the lefties were desperate to get guns to protect themselves. Unfortunately for them, the laws that they supported prevented their immediate access. (Hmmm, no teary eyed emoticon? :D)
We're used to earthquakes out here and there seems to be one going on in Sacramento at the moment. If we named earthquakes this one would be called Maldonado! :lifter
Pat
Well then, this should put everyone at ease. A possible societal meltdown getting factor into mix:munchin
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Mayors-Plan-Would-Ration-LA-Water-for-First-Time.html
It is always amazing to hear how all these poor people are in prison for minor crimes. I have seen more child molesters get probation ie no prison time than I can count.
Out on the 'Left' Coast, they put 'suspected' child molesters in prison for 8 years based on the LEO coerced testimony (and no tangible medical or any other evidence) of the children and the 'guilty until proven innocent' reporting of the MSM...and then release them with an apology and a hope they won't sue the state after the children--who are now teenagers--are mature enough to come forward and fess up to the fact that OBTW they weren't molested at all. And what of the LEOs and DAs? Go figure.
Maybe you should 'persuade' your child molesters to move to California where they can get what they deserve...whether they are guilty or not. :rolleyes:
I'm staying in Texas where the three-plunger cocktail is still being served. :D
Richard's $.02 :munchin
PS--If some SOB had touched one of my sons, I would have demanded a trial by a jury of my peers (all parents) to hear my explanation of why I killed that SOB!
6.8SPC_DUMP
02-18-2009, 22:14
The court system is so back up things get plead way down and no prison time for people that really need it.
Great news - provided someone does what needs to be done while they are out.
Out on the 'Left' Coast, they put 'suspected' child molesters in prison for 8 years based on the LEO coerced testimony (and no tangible medical or any other evidence) of the children and the 'guilty until proven innocent' reporting of the MSM...and then release them with an apology and a hope they won't sue the state after the children--who are now teenagers--are mature enough to come forward and fess up to the fact that OBTW they weren't molested at all. And what of the LEOs and DAs? Go figure.
I know the case well. It was in my neighborhood. It took a local free "throw away" newspaper to pursue the truth, which was obvious to us from the get go.
Pat
Defender968
02-19-2009, 10:20
What are they thinking; with few jobs for the employable, they will release 58,000 of the chronically unemployed? Street crime should reach new levels of tolerance and understanding.... 58,000 of the physcially fit and stupid roaming the streets...Annie better get her gun!!!
This was my first thought as well, they do realize that crime goes up significantly in a bad economy, and that most crime is committed by a very few people, and now they're releasing 58K of those few......good call guys....:rolleyes:
Instead of releasing convicted criminals why doesn't CA do the unthinkable like cutting ALL benefits to illegal aliens, no more free education, free health care, free welfare, etc. I can imagine that would save some serious bucks right there considering there are how many illegals in that broke state.
mojaveman
07-21-2009, 22:56
I got a really bad feeling about it. With the economy the way it is my bet is that about 90% of those guys are going to end up in county jails and then right back in the pen.
...cutting off cable-tv and internet service to the prison might save a few bucks
Praetorian
07-22-2009, 07:36
What everybody is missing in all this is the motivation. The California legislature has been doing stuff like this to their constituents for YEARS. Thanks to some of the funkyest gerrymandering imaginable the legislative seats are pretty much set in stone. So they don't fear elections, and they behave like it, which makes us one of the top five taxpaying states in the country, AND YET THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE. The only thing that keeps them in ANY sort of control is that Californians have the referendum process. And through that process the people have been able to cap our property taxes, require a 2/3rds legislative vote for tax increases, and just a few months ago, rejected another huge tax increase. And since that vote, the message FOR THE TAXPAYERS that has come out of the Democratic leadership in Sacramento has been LOUD, STRIDENT, AND OPENLY INSULTING. They HATE US, because we wont just let them keep ratcheting up the taxes.
Keep in mind. The state population has shrunk in the last 10 years.... The rate of Inflation has been about 1-2%. Yet the state budget has QUADRUPLED in that time. Its not like Californians were suffering in the 90's because we didn't have enough government services.... No... The money goes to the employee unions who keep getting promised MORE and MORE tax money and the legislature never seems to worry about how to pay for it, because we've been a blank check for them.... And now that we've finally cut them off, THEY ARE MAD AS HELL AT US! Anybody who pays much attention to whats going on in Sacramento, can't help but come away thinking that our elected representatives HATE US.... THEY HATE US, AND THEY WANT TO PUNISH US.
And so to show their contempt, instead of cutting pork (there are "committees" where ex-legislators sit once a month, and collect 6 figure paychecks for doing NOTHING) the first thing they do is threaten to cut the services the average taxpayer WANTS. Police, Fire and Prisons. We have heard this line SO MANY TIMES in the last five years that I think collectively there is a sense of "Fine.... Let's call their bluff".
The analogy I heard the other day was this: Imagine you had a lazy brother in law. He gets laid off. And after a few weeks he comes to you and says "hey, can I borrow a thousand bucks? I need to buy groceries for the kids and pay the rent?" So you lend him the money.... And you go to his house the next day and hes got a brand new plasma TV, but the refrigerator is still empty. And the next day he comes to you and says "Can I borrow another 200 bucks? I need to buy diapers for the kids?" And you lend him $200 and go over to his house the next day and hes got an XBOX but the kids are still in dirty diapers and there's still no food. And he comes to you and says "can I borrow $300 bucks so I can buy some more groceries?" And you finally say "NO! You bought a TV and an XBOX with the money I gave you!" And he says "BUT IT WAS FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!" That's what they do to us.... They threaten with cutting off ESSENTIAL services, so that we'll give in and give them more money and then they spend it on BS, and then come to us months later and do it all over again. Not this time....
hunteran
07-24-2009, 15:16
Great analogy, mind if I borrow it?