NSN for Sniper Accessory Kit?

[bravo22b]

I'm trying to track down info on an item called a "Sniper Accessory Kit", which may or may not be the same thing as the "Advanced Sniper Accessory Kit (ASAK)", but is not the "Ghillie Suit Accessory Kit (GSAK)". My understanding is that it contains items like a drag bag, wind meter, cleaning kit, stock pouch, ammo carrier, polarizing filter, and some other fun stuff. I'd like to see if I can get my unit to get some, so ideally, I'd like to get the NSN.

Maybe my google-fu is weak, or I'm just not looking in the right places, but I haven't been able to track it down.

Thanks to anybody can point me in the right direction.

[Goldy]

i know this may seem like an insult to your intelligence, but I must ask...

Have your guys searched FEDLOG for any of those keywords?

[longrange1947]

I just searched all over the boxes they come in with no label or number on them. Will have to wait until Tuesday to see if the S4 has th number. However, that said, I do believe that the sniper Accessory kit has been replaced with the newer ASAK and the old kit has been discontinued.

I have about every NSN there is for snipers, but not that one. :(

[bravo22b]

i know this may seem like an insult to your intelligence, but I must ask...

Have your guys searched FEDLOG for any of those keywords?

Goldy -

You're not insulting my intelligence. I'm an 11B; I had never even heard of FEDLOG until you brought it up. That said, I don't have access to it, and I would prefer to be armed with the NSN before I go begging to my supply sergeant. Like most, he is overworked, especially right now since out unit is about to commence a big move, and I would like to stay on his good side.

LR 1947 -

Thanks very much for looking. If it turns out that the SAK has been discontinued, could I ask for the NSN for the ASAK?

The more I look, the more I'm guessing that these kits are pretty $$$, and I'm thinking we will never get them, but WTF, it never hurts to ask.

Not that you need any gratitude from me, but thanks, and if our paths should ever cross, the drinks are on me.

[dmgedgoods]

Looking at what comes with the new kits, I would say they are a bit pricey. I will look at work on Tuesday and see if I can't track the NSN down on our MTOE for the whole kit.

Shawn

Edit to add:
You might want to wait a little while to try and procure some kits anyway. According to a contractor at TACOM, they are trying to field a bunch of new kit for the ASAK. We are still waiting for our m110's (no comment), and were told that we should be getting some new stuff with the weapons systems.

[Gene Econ]

My understanding is that it contains items like a drag bag, wind meter, cleaning kit, stock pouch, ammo carrier, polarizing filter, and some other fun stuff. I'd like to see if I can get my unit to get some, so ideally, I'd like to get the NSN. Thanks to anybody can point me in the right direction.


B22b:

Sounds like as big a rip off as the obsolete Overwhite Ghillie Suit Kit that cost units $1,000.00 for about fifty dollars worth of obsolete uniforms and a sewing kit.

Someone took the unused overwhites, threw them into a Aviators Kit Bag added five bucks worth of burlap, a tube of rubber cement, and a five dollar sewing kit and charged units $1,000.00 for all of this unused and obsolete stuff. BTW -- that ten dollar kit bag was the only item that was accountable. Total cost for all of this gear was mabye fifty dollars.

I would bet that all of the gear in this present kit is also totally obsolete and or things that no sane person would buy.

That polarizing filter screws on to the objective lens of an M-3 but the question is this. What light conditions is it made for? And also -- will it change zero?

Who is about to hold up a wind meter when being shot at in order to dope the winds like someone on the firing line at Perry? Said wind meter is probably uni-directional and not omni directional which means its value just dropped by 50%again.

The ammo carrier costs at most five dollars and is totally useless although it may look cool.

All of that crap that is sold through GSA is nothing but crap that was proven to be of no value many years ago but things that some contractor bought surplus and re-entered it into the system under another name.

The less crap someone has to deal with, the better will be their performance -- INHO.

LR1947 + 8

[bravo22b]

Gene (Sir) -

Thanks for the BLUF viewpoint on the kit. I should have included the question in my original post, "Is this thing worth having?". No point in wasting the unit's money if it's not worthwhile. There's lots of other stuff we could use the money for.

As an aside, I've come back in after a 7 year break in service. I think the single biggest thing that I'm having trouble getting used to is the incredible explosion in the amount of STUFF that is now available. The amount of companies making "tactical" equipment and the like must have increased by a factor of twenty, at least. My common sense tells me that a large percentage of it must be fairly worthless, but I'm still trying to wrap my brain around everything from the new MOLLE gear to all the accessories for the new and various weapons systems. To that end, this site and the members have been invaluable. I'm trying to make sure I don't pollute the site with stupid questions that I could find the answers to elsewhere. That said, as everyone here knows, there is a unique depth of knowledge here, particularly relating to sniper information.

[dmgedgoods]

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[Gene Econ]

I think the single biggest thing that I'm having trouble getting used to is the incredible explosion in the amount of STUFF that is now available. The amount of companies making "tactical" equipment and the like must have increased by a factor of twenty, at least. My common sense tells me that a large percentage of it must be fairly worthless, but I'm still trying to wrap my brain around everything from the new MOLLE gear to all the accessories for the new and various weapons systems

B22:

Roger that. You shouldn't be confused though which is what folks are trying to say here.

A firearm consists of two elemental parts. One is a steel tube normally termed a barrel and the other is a trigger. From Match Lock through today's match grade 2 stage triggers, the shooter must continue to do the same thing in order for his rock, lead round ball, jacketed bullet, or lathe turned solid, to actually strike someone somewhere where it will kill or incapacitate them.

Said shooter must point that steel tube precisely, see it is pointed precisely, and then shoot the shot without moving the steel tube. This ain't rocket science and the less crap to interfere with elemental (cognitive) skills development, the better. IMHO only.

Now, what inhibits someone from such precise pointing, seeing, and pulling? Thoughts that have nothing to do with precise pointing, seeing, or pulling! Like cluttered reticle patterns filled with lines, dots, tick marks etc; the need to use a PDA to figure out that a center hold at 200 using a 300 zero is just fine; an anemometer when someone is in combat; little five round neat black nylon bullet holder thingees that attach to the stock (that the shooter will forget is there when under pressure), et. al.

Give them their basic rifle with the stuff the Army issued to them. Take my word for it -- 90% of 'B-4' snipers have no clue what a minute of angle is or means in terms of their optics so the less stuff they have to deal with the better!

That said, the 2 1/2% who are the best of the best will know and will use their knowledge to attain the type of success that liars spread across the internet. Yes, 2 1/2 percent are the best of the best. However, another 90% will do their job OK. That is how it goes. There are a couple of guys at Benning right now who IMHO are the best of the best (3/2 SBCT) so maybe they can do their jobs and increase the percentages. Also, there are two fellows I know personally who are not in DoD who will dominate any and all situations they encounter. They know who they are. They aren't SF nor do they have an SF background despite my attempts to get them to go SF.

The guys who are the very best in the world no one will ever discuss as they are great men and women who view their jobs as something they were best suited to do for the country first. None of them would ever even mention their names -- the hype on the internet is not their game.

And it is just that damn simple.

Professionals are out there daily doing their jobs without an iota of a need to be famous. It has been my pleasure and honor to have known these 2 1/2 percent who are the best of the best.

SR-1955

[bravo22b]

Gene -

I read you Lima Charlie, Sir.

I hope I did not convey the sense that I believe having more "stuff" will make you a better shooter or sniper. On the contrary, I'm trying to update my BS meter so that I know what equipment will help facilitate doing my job, and what is a waste of time. In retrospect, it should seem obvious that when I'm packing my ruck for a mission, there isn't going to be room for wind meters and polarizing filters.

Thank you for the nudge in the correct direction.