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afchic
01-29-2009, 08:14
This makes me sick. You join the military in the middle of two wars, and THEN decide what you are doing is wrong??? I honestly believe there are people out there in uniform that think the war in Iraq is wrong. I get that. The problem I have with most of these deserters/conscientious objectors etc is that you signed a contract with the US government. If you decide not to live up to said contract there are consequences. How much more effective would these people's stories be if they maned/womaned up and did their jail time, and then came out and protested the war?

I have no tolerance for the folks that think they are above the consequences of their own actions. I hope this piece of sh!t gets sent home and rots in Leveanworth for a while. JMO.

Wall Street Journal
January 29, 2009
Pg. 1

U.S. Deserter 'Having Time Of My Life' As He Seeks Asylum In Germany

By Mike Esterl

KARLSRUHE, Germany -- Germany has been very good to Spec. André L. Shepherd since he deserted the U.S. Army.

The 31-year-old former mechanic of the 601st Aviation Support Battalion is enjoying perks that eluded him back home in Ohio: a bed, a bank account, a cellphone and friends.

Best of all from his standpoint, he isn't back in Iraq.

"I'm having the time of my life," says Mr. Shepherd, the only American bunking at a refugee-processing center in southern Germany.

The U.S. deserter enters uncharted legal territory on Wednesday, when Germany begins weighing his request for political asylum. The case will put to the test a 2004 European Union directive requiring member countries to grant asylum to soldiers protesting unlawful wars.

Mr. Shepherd could wind up in a U.S. jail if his application is rejected, but a favorable ruling could open a new escape hatch for Americans stationed in Germany who want to avoid combat duty in Iraq. About 38,000 American soldiers are stationed in Germany, a key logistical hub for the U.S. Army.

Mr. Shepherd has no shortage of supporters. Punk rockers gave him shelter after he decamped from a military base near Nuremberg in 2007 and went into hiding. Dozens of peace organizations have championed his cause since he turned himself in to German authorities late last year and applied for asylum.

"He's our poster boy," says Tim Huber of the Military Counseling Network, part of the German Mennonite Peace Committee, a nongovernmental organization helping finance Mr. Shepherd's legal campaign.

The U.S. Army says 71 soldiers deserted from its European bases last year, a mere sliver of the roughly 3,500 soldiers who deserted world-wide over the past year. It says it doesn't actively pursue most deserters, who make up less than 1% of the enlisted force in any given year.

A spokesman for the U.S. Army in Europe said the military is aware of the asylum case but that it is "completely in German hands." If Mr. Shepherd is returned to U.S. custody, though, he could face up to five years in prison under military laws.

Mr. Shepherd was raised in a tough Cleveland neighborhood before moving as a teenager to the suburb of Lakewood. He eventually studied computer science at Kent State University but says he left without a degree in 2000 after running out of money.

He worked several low-paying jobs and says he lived in a 1994 Dodge Intrepid for several months in 2001 because he couldn't afford rent.

Mr. Shepherd was again living in a car -- a 1995 Pontiac Grand Am -- in December 2003 when he walked into an Army recruitment center in Lakewood and signed up. The new recruit was deployed to Camp Speicher in northern Iraq in September 2004, where he helped repair Apache helicopters. He didn't see action but had some contact with Iraqis who worked on the base. "None of them looked like they were happy to see their liberators," he says.

After he was reassigned in February 2005 to a desk job at a base in Katterbach in southern Germany, Mr. Shepherd spent his free time researching the Iraq war on the Internet. He says he grew convinced the U.S. occupation was harmful -- and that he had been contributing to civilian deaths by servicing armed Apaches.

He also married after meeting a German woman online. The union lasted less than a year.

The clean-cut soldier was sitting in a Nuremberg café in the summer of 2006 when he fell into a conversation with Johannes Berner, a German student sporting a rainbow-colored Mohawk haircut, a black leather jacket with spikes, and a red kilt.

"I was like, 'Wow, this is different,'" recalls Mr. Shepherd.

But the two agreed on Iraq and became fast friends. Mr. Berner introduced Mr. Shepherd to his "punker" friends in Prien, a picturesque town near the Austrian border.

In April 2007, after Mr. Shepherd got word he would soon be redeployed to Iraq, he slipped away to Prien and was taken in by Mr. Berner's friends. Eventually he settled into an old farmhouse with a view of the Alps. One of the residents played drums in a local punk band and Mr. Shepherd performed household chores in lieu of rent.

Nights were often spent at the Piraten Pub. At a bachelor party, he put on a blond wig and women's clothing to hand out cigars. He also found a girlfriend among an expanding circle of about two dozen friends. "He loved it, all the craziness," says the 25-year-old Mr. Berner.

Mr. Shepherd, who is African-American, says many locals assumed he was from Africa. But he grew increasingly worried about being tracked down by the U.S. Army after showing his military identification card to inquisitive German police. Last November, with the help of German peace organizations, he applied for asylum.

Germany's interior ministry declined to comment ahead of Mr. Shepherd's asylum hearing. A German lawyer for the soldier says authorities often take from several weeks to half a year to issue a ruling.

In the meantime, Mr. Shepherd has his own room and bunk bed at a sprawling refugee center. The German government provides him with meals and allows him to move freely around the Karlsruhe area. He stays in touch with German friends by mobile phone and takes language classes offered by an asylum support group.

He recently joined the teacher, an elderly German woman, and half a dozen asylum seekers from Gambia in a rap song that began, "Ja und nein. Apfelwein. Lorelei ist am Rhein." ("Yes and no. Apple wine. Lorelei is on the Rhine.")

Alexander Zmijewski, the soldier's best friend back in Ohio, says he hasn't heard from Mr. Shepherd since late 2004. A construction worker, he says he's "lucky to be working" as he tries raising a family and questions Mr. Shepherd's decision to desert. "If I put my name on something, I like to honor that," says the 32-year-old Lakewood resident.

But Mr. Shepherd says he didn't know then what he knows now. "I was suckered," he says.

The deserter has found a new helping hand in Ulli Thiel, a 65-year-old peace activist in Karlsruhe. Mr. Thiel and his wife recently set up a bank account in the soldier's name, and they deposit about €200 (about $262) a month so he has spending money.

Mr. Shepherd says he hopes to finish his university degree in Karlsruhe if he wins asylum and that he could happily spend the rest of his life in Germany.

"It's just amazing here," he said one morning recently in Mr. Thiel's living room as his German host poured him a cup of coffee.

Hostile0311
01-29-2009, 08:23
What a dirt-bag.

The Reaper
01-29-2009, 08:29
I wish the Germans the best of luck with him.

He should be a "man without a country".

If he comes back to the US, he should go directly to the USDB.

TR

Saoirse
01-29-2009, 10:45
Let him freeload off the Germans.. better than freeloading off our system! What a scumbag! :mad:

Red Flag 1
01-29-2009, 11:32
Let him freeload off the Germans.. better than freeloading off our system! What a scumbag! :mad:


A freeloading scumb bag may very well become a boatload of same. I hope Germany sees that.

Very interesting timing....New POTUS...New Sec of State, neither of which bring any insight, IMHO. That Gates is still Sec of Def. is the only plus......oh I almost forgot. BHO's go to guy for forigen "stuff" is Biden, now there's depth we can count on.:mad:

I'd like to see the FBI grab this guy this week and bring him "home" for some milk and cookies....this week!

My $.02.

:munchin

RF 1

Gypsy
01-29-2009, 19:15
What a tool.

Revoke his American citizenship, let him stay in Germany or become a "citizen of the world". :rolleyes:

Dragbag036
01-29-2009, 21:03
Einen Schritt naeher an seinem "Heimatland". Better Germans pay his life style than us Amis. Send them all that way, we could save a few bucks.

Geenie
01-31-2009, 13:27
I hope they kick him out and he does his time. I don't want my taxes supporting his cowardice.

bluebb
01-31-2009, 21:34
I wonder what the US Military would do if he just ended up at the front gate of a post (little 100mph tape around his body).
Anyone up for a trip to Germany :)

Just joking.

Blue

SF_BHT
01-31-2009, 21:51
I wonder what the US Military would do if he just ended up at the front gate of a post (little 100mph tape around his body).
Anyone up for a trip to Germany :)

Just joking.

Blue

So what time is the link up and pre deployment brief?:D

Paslode
01-31-2009, 22:36
Brings back memories of Thanksgiving long ago, Cousin Charlie and the car ride home with my irate Dad.....Son you ever pull that and your going to answer to ME. And the 18th Birthday talk, promise me you won't pull that shit your Cousin Charlie did.


What a tool.

Well said:D

greenberetTFS
02-01-2009, 02:34
A freeloading scumb bag may very well become a boatload of same. I hope Germany sees that.

Very interesting timing....New POTUS...New Sec of State, neither of which bring any insight, IMHO. That Gates is still Sec of Def. is the only plus......oh I almost forgot. BHO's go to guy for forigen "stuff" is Biden, now there's depth we can count on.:mad:

I'd like to see the FBI grab this guy this week and bring him "home" for some milk and cookies....this week!

My $.02.

:munchin

RF 1

RF1,Your right on target........

GB TFS :munchin

Saoirse
02-01-2009, 08:46
I wonder what the US Military would do if he just ended up at the front gate of a post (little 100mph tape around his body).
Anyone up for a trip to Germany :)

Just joking.

Blue

So what time is the link up and pre deployment brief?:D

I have a couple of rolls.. and speak German!! Can I be of any service!? :lifter:D

f50lrrp
02-11-2009, 17:32
US Deserter Receives German Peace Prize
February 06, 2009
Agence France-Presse

A US army deserter claiming asylum in Germany due to his moral opposition to the war in Iraq is set to scoop a peace prize, a US activist group said Friday.

Andre Shepherd, 31, originally from Cleveland, Ohio, will be awarded the Munich American Peace Committee's annual prize on Saturday during a protest at a major security conference in southern Germany. The committee is an anti-war activist group.

The new US administration -- represented by Vice President Joseph Biden -- will give details of its foreign policy vision at the Munich Security Conference.

However, Shepherd will not appear in person to receive the award, Rudi Friedrich, head of Connection e.V -- a support group for conscientious objectors and deserters -- told AFP.

While Shepherd's asylum application is being assessed, he is not allowed to travel beyond the confines of Karlsruhe in southern Germany where he is staying at a refugee-processing centre, Friedrich said.

The Munich American Peace Committee said it was awarding the prize to Shepherd for his "courage and conviction in despite of the possibly extreme punishment from the US authorities" and "for publicising your convictions to give other soldiers the courage also to leave the army and to push for peace."

Shepherd, whose application for asylum was heard Wednesday during a nine-hour interview with German immigration officials, has received support from ordinary German citizens, Friedrich said.

A petition calling for his asylum claim to be granted has attracted "more than 1,000 signatures," he said, adding, "I get a lot of letters every day."

Connection e.V intends to present the petition to the German authorities considering his asylum application.

Shepherd walked off his base in southern Germany in spring 2007 and spent 19 months on the run before applying for asylum in November last year. He is the first Army deserter to seek asylum in Germany.

Before then, he had completed a five-month stint in Iraq between September 2004 and February 2005 in which he serviced Apache helicopters as part of the 412th Aviation Support Battalion.


© Copyright 2009 Agence France-Presse. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Red Flag 1
02-11-2009, 17:54
f50,

Is there a link here to VP Biden? :confused:

RF 1

Soft Target
02-12-2009, 08:10
I would welcome this fine, honorable, misunderstood young man into my home when he returns to his obviously undeserving homeland.

The Reaper
02-12-2009, 08:18
I would welcome this fine, honorable, misunderstood young man into my home when he returns to his obviously undeserving homeland.

Would this celebration involve a blanket?

TR

csquare
02-12-2009, 08:42
I'll bring the Irish Spring and the Army wool socks!

Dozer523
02-12-2009, 10:58
And when he's in the shower, we'll all flush on "three"!

XJWoody
02-12-2009, 11:30
"Volunteer" the slug for a one-man HALO night infil into downtown Pyongyang... conked out for the ride & send him off the ramp - AOD enabled- just about as he starts coming around.

Kit him up with our best (faux, complete with crafty instructions) James Bond gear... Plus maps, & cue cards with translations that actually read "Great Leader Must Die Like Dog!" and other endearing phrases.

See if the sumnabeech can talk his way out of that jam.

Soft Target
02-12-2009, 12:36
And when he's in the shower, we'll all flush on "three"!

Now THAT is really mean! But in my house, just one flush would do the trick.

Soft Target
02-12-2009, 12:37
Would this celebration involve a blanket?

TR

Please Reaper-san, you don't think my invitation was cordially meant?

theIliad
02-24-2009, 19:38
I'll bring the Irish Spring and the Army wool socks!

One of your "buds", eh?

Red Flag 1
02-25-2009, 17:56
I'll bring the Irish Spring and the Army wool socks!

Soap in a sock ( Irish Spring or Ivory ) trumps soap on a rope every night!!

RF 1

Kosta
02-25-2009, 18:08
Disgusting. Absolutely shameful.

Desertion is one thing for a draftee, but for a volunteer?

To borrow from Samuel Adams, may posterity forget he was our countryman.

lonepine
03-01-2009, 15:55
But Mr. Shepherd says he didn't know then what he knows now. "I was suckered," he says.

This cracks me up. What part of walking into an Army recruiting station and signing your name doesn't he understand?