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Richard
12-18-2008, 06:26
Wellllllll....:confused: I can hear the jokes now. :rolleyes:
And WTF is up with Shelton?

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Gay Man Backed for Navy Secretary
Washington Times
19 Dec 2008

Some top retired military leaders and some Democrats in Congress are backing William White, chief operating officer of the Intrepid Museum Foundation, to be the next secretary of the Navy - a move that would put the first openly gay person at the top of one of the services.

The secretary's job is a civilian position, so it would not run afoul of the ban on gays serving in the military, but it would renew focus on the "don't ask, don't tell" policy as President-elect Barack Obama prepares to take office.

"He would be phenomenal," said retired Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 1997 to 2001, pointing to Mr. White's extensive background as a fundraiser for veterans' and military causes.

Retired members of the Joint Chiefs have contacted Mr. Obama's transition team to urge them to pick Mr. White, and members of Congress said he would be a good choice for a service secretary.

"He's very capable," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, New York Democrat, whose district includes the Intrepid Museum, a retired aircraft carrier berthed on the Hudson River in New York City.

Mr. Nadler said Mr. White has become a friend of the military, and particularly the service members and their families, both through the Intrepid and through Fisher Houses, which offer a place to stay so families can be close to military members who are receiving medical care.

A spokeswoman for the Obama campaign said they won't comment on personnel decisions.

Others are in consideration, such as Juan Garcia, a former naval aviator who was defeated for re-election to his seat in the Texas House. Mr. Garcia is friends with Mr. Obama from their Harvard Law School days and was chairman of Mr. Obama's Texas campaign.

Democratic members of Congress from Texas sent a letter to Mr. Obama earlier this month supporting Mr. Garcia for the position.

A spokesman said Mr. White would not comment.

If Mr. White were nominated, he likely would face questions during a Senate confirmation hearing over how his nomination would square with the military's policies on gays.


GETTY IMAGES Top military personnel and some Democrats are touting William White, chief operating officer of the Intrepid Museum Foundation, to be the next secretary of the Navy.

In 1993, President Clinton signed into law a ban, and White House and congressional leaders settled on a new policy known as "don't ask, don't tell." Under it, gay service members must keep their sexuality private or face expulsion. About 12,500 people have been discharged under the policy.

Supporters of the ban said nominating Mr. White would send the wrong signal.

"It's a matter of judgment, and I think that would be very poor judgment on the part of the commander in chief," said Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, which opposes gays serving in the military. "It would be very demoralizing to the troops."

But Mr. Nadler said the military policy that says gays are a threat to unit cohesion is "nonsense," and it shouldn't apply to Mr. White anyway because as secretary "he's not in the foxhole, he's not on the ship."

Gen. Shelton called Mr. White's work at both the Intrepid Museum and the Fisher House Foundation "legendary."

"He has always been a staunch advocate of our men and women in uniform," Gen. Shelton said.

Razor
12-18-2008, 09:10
Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.

Shouldn't Shelton have said "He would be FABulous!" :D

SOGvet
12-18-2008, 09:25
DoD is bninging back the Village People... ;)

Kyobanim
12-18-2008, 09:30
I guess they'll be stocking up on soap on a rope in the ship commissaries.

Pete
12-18-2008, 11:24
Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby. ....:D

Oh - rip the shirt, how cliche.....

Remember that one.

magician
12-18-2008, 12:34
Unbelievable.

The guy runs a museum and a charity, both undoubtedly worthy organizations, and that somehow qualifies him to be endorsed by General Shelton for Secretary of the Navy?

The Reaper
12-18-2008, 12:45
Unbelievable.

The guy runs a museum and a charity, both undoubtedly worthy organizations, and that somehow qualifies him to be endorsed by General Shelton for Secretary of the Navy?

GEN Shelton is not what he appears to be.

He is a Dim and a very political animal.

TR

Richard
12-18-2008, 13:03
GEN Shelton is not what he appears to be. He is a Dim and a very political animal. TR

And I'm beginning to wonder if he's also a 'closet critter' like The Gunfighter! :confused:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

AngelsSix
12-19-2008, 07:08
GEN Shelton is not what he appears to be.

He is a Dim and a very political animal.

TR

Bingo!!

Puertoland
12-19-2008, 09:12
Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.

Shouldn't Shelton have said "He would be FABulous!" :D

Damn you beat me to it.

It just seems that the worst of any possible decision comes to fruition under Obama.

Red Flag 1
12-19-2008, 14:09
Hard to find a gay man not being backed!

It is the Navy you know.:D

RF 1

morolen
12-19-2008, 14:41
Seems that sometimes the jokes write themselves.

emoore
12-19-2008, 14:46
Hard to find a gay man not being backed!

It is the Navy you know.:D

RF 1

Now that was funny!! Meaning no disrespect to you Navy guys ;)

ZonieDiver
12-19-2008, 14:50
I guess they'll be stocking up on soap on a rope in the ship commissaries.

I thought soap on a rope was already an issue item in the Navy!:D

AGaillard
12-19-2008, 15:03
Oh - rip the shirt, how cliche.....

Derik John and Chuck U. Farley in.........


A Chech and Chong classic!!!

zuluzerosix
12-19-2008, 15:44
Rum, sodomy and the lash, baby.

:D


I love that record by The Pogues. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eOuScDge0g&feature=PlayList&p=F498BE45F5D8D4F5&index=0&playnext=1)

Beerhunter
12-19-2008, 22:58
"a move that would put the first openly gay person at the top of one of the services. "

not that there's anything wrong with that......