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Sdiver
12-15-2008, 09:54
Anyone "catch" the reporter throwing his shoes at the POTUS yesterday in B-dad?

Here's the clip......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPptqc-OStg&feature=related

I guess taking a bullet for the POTUS is in line for being a member of his detail, but the line is drawn at "shoes". :D

Blitzzz (RIP)
12-15-2008, 10:35
I was a bit astounded that the Secret service guys missed it or took so long to move. that guy should not have gotten the second shoe thrown. What if it had been a knife? Yes, President bushes reactions were very good. So to the Prime Minister's. Blitz

XJWoody
12-15-2008, 10:36
The first thing I thought after seing that was "You can tell he's married."

Blitzzz had my second thought.

Team Sergeant
12-15-2008, 10:41
The first thing I thought after seing that was "You can tell he's married."

Blitzzz had my second thought.

LOL

The second boot would not have made it had I been there.....there would have been one more dead "middle eastern news reporter" instead.;)

csquare
12-15-2008, 10:48
When the Iraqi security detail started beating him. I wonder if he was screaming in Arabic, "Don't taz me bro!", as they dragged him out of the press conference?
I'm sure the beatings have/ will continue and won't stop until further notice.

Dozer523
12-15-2008, 10:57
As for the reaction of the Department of the Treasury guys*. I'm pretty sure NOONE thought about shoes as assault weapons. You can be pretty sure that 1) these guys were "blessed" 2) they all went through a metal detector and probably a good wanding. I guess future news conferences will be conducted by barefoot reporters. Sort of like taking off my shoes to go through the airport security -- all it takes is one guy to ruin it for all of us!
*No excuse though, "thinking of everything" is their job.

anythingrandom
12-15-2008, 11:01
As for the reaction of the Department of the Treasury guys*. I'm pretty sure NOONE thought about shoes as assault weapons. You can be pretty sure that 1) these guys were "blessed" 2) they all went through a metal detector and probably a good wanding. I guess future news conferences will be conducted by barefoot reporters. Sort of like taking off my shoes to go through the airport security -- all it takes is one guy to ruin it for all of us!
*No excuse though, "thinking of everything" is their job.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5oKEVqQJg

Who throws a shoe? Honestly? You fight like a woman!


But yes, I was impressed by quick reaction of the POTUS as well.

Ret10Echo
12-15-2008, 11:15
Iraq rally for Bush shoe attacker
Thousands of Iraqis have demanded the release of a local TV reporter who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush at a Baghdad news conference.

Crowds gathered in Baghdad's Sadr City district, calling for "hero" Muntadar al-Zaidi to be freed from custody.

Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression.

Iraqi officials have described the incident as shameful.

A statement released by the government said Mr Zaidi's actions, which also included him shouting insults at President Bush, "harmed the reputation of Iraqi journalists and Iraqi journalism in general".

Correspondents say the protesters are supporters of Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr - a leading critic of the US presence in Iraq. Smaller protests were reported in Basra and Najaf.


The Iraqi government has demanded an on-air apology from his employer.

An Iraqi official was quoted by the Associated Press as saying that the journalist was being interrogated to determine whether anybody paid him to throw his shoes at President Bush.

He was also being tested for alcohol and drugs, and his shoes were being held as evidence, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Cairo-based al-Baghdadiya TV channel said Mr Zaidi should be freed because he had been exercising freedom of expression - something which the Americans had promised to Iraqis on the ousting of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"Any measures against Muntadar will be considered the acts of a dictatorial regime," the firm said in a statement.

The programming director for al-Baghdadiya, Muzhir al-Khafaji, described the journalist as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before.

"We fear that our correspondents in Iraq will be arrested. We have 200 correspondents there," he added.

'Proud Arab'

Mr Zaidi leapt from his chair at Sunday's news conference and hurled first one shoe and then the other at Mr Bush, who was joined at the podium by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki.


The shoes missed as Mr Bush ducked, and Mr Zaidi was immediately wrestled to the ground by security guards and frogmarched from the room.

"This is a farewell kiss, you dog," he yelled in Arabic as he threw his shoes. "This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

Arabic TV stations have been repeatedly showing footage of the incident, which was also front-page news in many papers.

Correspondents say the journalist's tirade was echoed by Arabs across the Middle East who are fed up with US policy in the region.

"He [George Bush] deserves to be hit with 100, not just one or two shoes. Who wants him to come here?" said a man in Baghdad.

But his view was not expressed by everyone.

"I think this incident is unnecessary, to be honest. That was a press conference, not a war. If someone wants to express his opinion he should do so in the proper manner, not this way," said another Baghdad resident.

Courts criticised

Also on Monday, Human Rights Watch accused Iraq's main criminal court of failing to meet basic international standards of justice.

The New York-based group said torture and abuse of prisoners before trial appeared common, and legal representation was often ineffectual.

Human Rights Watch said some of the court's failings showed disturbing similarities to those that existed during the Saddam Hussein era.

The group called on Iraq to take immediate steps to protect detainees from torture, and ensure they had access to proper defence and received a prompt hearing.

echoes
12-15-2008, 13:12
Who throws a shoe? Honestly? You fight like a woman!

WTH does that mean? If the reporter were fighting like a woman, ass you claim, there would have been stilletto's attached!:rolleyes:

And yep, GWB did indeed remind me of a major league player with his duck and cover!:lifter

Holly

Scimitar
12-15-2008, 13:14
Some Iraqi Catholic immigrants I know, who actually really like Bush and what America has done for Iraq loved how agile the POTUS was especially at his age. "Very impressive one said". :lifter

S

Dozer523
12-15-2008, 13:42
WTH does that mean? If the reporter were fighting like a woman, ass you claim, there would have been stilletto's attached!:rolleyes:
Holly I was wondering the same thing since the reply quoted me! If you are referring to me when you say "You fight like a woman!"
well . . . "Up with your dukes, come mon putem'up!"

echoes
12-15-2008, 13:48
I was wondering the same thing since the reply quoted me! If you are referring to me when you say "You fight like a woman!"
well . . . "Up with your dukes, come mon putem'up!"

LOL Sir! (I hope!) :D

Holly

<-------- And a small P.S. Sir, Well, when I am wearing fur topped stilleto's, as pictured, I can be a bit randy for my own good. (sigh)

anythingrandom
12-15-2008, 16:01
Echoes and Dozer,

No offenses intended! Watch the video!

ATR

See2
12-15-2008, 16:08
It looks like he waves off the Secret Service at one point in the video - almost like an "it's ok, it's just a shoe" thing... no excuse for the guy getting the second one off, but that might explain the slow reaction.

Dozer523
12-15-2008, 16:36
LOL Sir! (I hope!) :D

Holly

<-------- And a small P.S. Sir, Well, when I am wearing fur topped stilleto's, as pictured, I can be a bit randy for my own good. (sigh) I AM laughing. Besides anyone with an avatar like that can probably get away with a lot here. I personally promise to keep keep Christmas in my heart as long as you maintain this avatar! (Yeah, I read the WHOLE sorted discussion on this "avatar thing" yesterday. You guys will give the FOG's a bad rap!) . . . you know who you are!:pl So quit lookin' around.:mad::D

Gypsy
12-15-2008, 19:09
While I appreciate the President's reflexes there is no way that the second shoe should have made it to target...

As to be expected, several left wingers are laughing at the fact POTUS had shoes flung at him. Such disrespect. Wonder how they'll feel if their annointed one ever gets the same treatment. :rolleyes:

AngelsSix
12-15-2008, 20:02
See, now, if that had been me getting shoes thrown at me, I would have really given them something to laugh about and thrown them back!!:D
But he did move fast when that first one came at him, I thought it was funny as hell myself, not the actual shoe throwing, just how cool he was about it!!

olhamada
12-15-2008, 20:27
I agree, I was impressed by his cat like reflexes, but I would have REALLY been impressed had he actually caught the shoes and thrown them back!

dividebyzero
12-15-2008, 20:30
Bush hasn't exactly been my favorite president policy-wise, but I will complement him for his quick reflexes. That, and the look he gave the guy immediately after said something like "I'm still ready to throw down."

Don't mess with Texas, indeed!

Jgood
12-15-2008, 21:00
Hmmm bet there is a couple of opennings in the secert service after that.

So when did attempted assualt become a freedom of expression:confused:

[QUOTE]Officials at the Iraqi-owned TV station, al-Baghdadiya, called for the release of their journalist, saying he was exercising freedom of expression. [QUOTE]


He said he was afraid for Mr Zaidi's safety, adding that the reporter had been arrested by US officials twice before....Who does the back round checks on these people before hand.


Seems that there have been multiple flaws on that security detail

NoRoadtrippin
12-15-2008, 22:17
I know this has thus far been a humorous post and I am taking a more serious bent, but I have to say that my first thought in this is how quickly the world's people forget the efforts of the American Soldier.

Just five years ago, we watched numerous videos of Iraqi citizens using their shoes to beat the pictures and statues of a very different man as he fell from power. It is so disappointing to think that all the love has been lost so quickly just because things did not turn out nice and peachy right away.

Thanks to all those who have done their part. Watch out for shoes over there.

SF_BHT
12-15-2008, 22:32
I AM laughing. Besides anyone with an avatar like that can probably get away with a lot here. I personally promise to keep keep Christmas in my heart as long as you maintain this avatar! (Yeah, I read the WHOLE sorted discussion on this "avatar thing" yesterday. You guys will give the FOG's a bad rap!) . . . you know who you are!:pl So quit lookin' around.:mad::D

Dozer

Update yours to go with the season...... Here you go....:eek:

10847

cornelyj
12-15-2008, 22:53
I don't know about yous guys but I think that was pretty funny news when I saw it panned up on CNN and FOX with a commentator doing the play by play...

and here comes the shoes.... HA

Just glad no one got hurt... godspeed

Dozer523
12-15-2008, 23:00
I like it! thanks!

abc_123
12-16-2008, 05:04
Just glad no one got hurt... godspeed


Except for the guy who threw the shoe. Today its being reported that he's suffering from a broken arm, broken ribs and cuts and bruises and is in the custody of the iraqi military.

Richard
12-16-2008, 06:25
Musta been Blackwater providing the PSD for that one. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Ret10Echo
12-16-2008, 06:27
Musta been Blackwater providing the PSD for that one. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Oh Hell here we go.....:munchin

SF_BHT
12-16-2008, 06:30
I like it! thanks!

I know have to figure out how to put an elf in the mouth of that German Sheppard...of ABC_123:eek:

Richard
12-16-2008, 07:15
The Iraqi TV reporter who hurled his shoes at George W. Bush was kidnapped once by militants and, separately, detained briefly by the U.S. military. Over time, Muntadhar al-Zeidi, a 28-year-old unmarried Shiite, came to hate both the U.S. military occupation and Iran's interference in Iraq, his family told The Associated Press on Monday.

Al-Zeidi's act of defiance Sunday transformed an obscure reporter from a minor TV station into a national hero to many Iraqis fed up with the nearly six-year U.S. presence here, but also fearful that their country will fall under Iran's influence once the Americans leave.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq_shoe_tosser;_ylt=ApxG1QXMvAwHddG2sbyXeGsLe wgF

Sounds like a bit of a dilemma to me. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Team Sergeant
12-16-2008, 07:48
Musta been Blackwater providing the PSD for that one. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

No, there were no unarmed women or children shot in the back.

Richard
12-16-2008, 14:14
Hand-picked Blackwater experts personally trained by Matthew Alexander, former Air Force weenie and famed author of "How To Break A Terrorist," are 'vigorously' interrogating the Iraqi shoe-tossing culprit to determine whether he's a Shoe-ni or a Shoe-ite. Leaked reports say that although he was video taped earlier at a Payless Shoe Store, no one thought to run a background check on him before allowing him to attend the news conference with President Bush. Rumor has it he may have ties with a radical muslim faction currently operating from Shoe-goslavia. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Sdiver
12-16-2008, 14:22
Hand-picked Blackwater experts personally trained by Matthew Alexander, former Air Force weenie and famed author of "How To Break A Terrorist," are 'vigorously' interrogating the Iraqi shoe-tossing culprit to determine whether he's a Shoe-ni or a Shoe-ite. Leaked reports say that although he was video taped earlier at a Payless Shoe Store, no one thought to run a background check on him before allowing him to attend the news conference with President Bush. Rumor has it he may have ties with a radical muslim faction currently operating from Shoe-goslavia. :rolleyes:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

One thing's for certain, the guy was definitely a failed shoe-acide bomber. :munchin

nmap
12-16-2008, 15:07
Hmm...I wonder if music could be used to punish the thrower.

Something like Jane Fonda's "These boots are made for walking".
:D

Given Ms. Fonda's political leanings, he couldn't even complain about the content...

(Yes, there is a youtube video. However, I believe it best that I not endanger computer screens everywhere...as shoes might get thrown...)

Richard
12-16-2008, 15:24
Hmm...I wonder if music could be used to punish the thrower.

Something like Jxxx Fxxxx's "These boots are made for walking".
:D

Given Ms. Fxxxx's political leanings, he couldn't even complain about the content...

(Yes, there is a youtube video. However, I believe it best that I not endanger computer screens everywhere...as shoes might get thrown...)

FYI - You mean Nancy Sinatra. ;)

And that's JF*F where I come from. :mad:

Richard's $.02 :munchin

*Fxxkin'

nmap
12-16-2008, 15:34
FYI - You mean Nancy Sinatra. ;)

And that's JF*F where I come from. :mad:


Thank you for the correction on both points, Sir - and my apologies to Ms. Sinatra for a grave insult. :o

And, if I may say so, I like your Christmas avatar!

Red Flag 1
12-16-2008, 16:43
Shoe chucker had adequate aim.

Probably a failed shoe salesman who is lucky to be able to continue stealing oxygen from this planet; and adding CO2 and Methane. Let him live TS to endure the below.

In addition to the music torture nmap suggests, I would add a few weeks in a well lit room (24/7) with naked pics of: Ms. Clinton, John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, and Sen Kennedy ( the current one). Murtha and Ted are included to cover all the bases.

kgoerz
12-16-2008, 17:16
Have to watch the Daily Show and SNL to see how they handle it......should be funny.

ZonieDiver
12-16-2008, 17:40
One thing's for certain, the guy was definitely a failed shoe-acide bomber. :munchin

And he is a big "heel" with no "sole"!:D

Richard
12-16-2008, 18:09
I like your Christmas avatar!

nmap--I like the seasonal foilage you added to your normal avatar; very nicely done. :)

As for JFF--a word of advice...don't mention her name around a bunch of QPs...unless you're looking for an argument...at a minimum. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Sdiver
12-16-2008, 18:15
nmap--I like the seasonal foilage you added to your normal avatar; very nicely done. :)

As for JFF--a word of advice...don't mention her name around a bunch of QPs...unless you're looking for an argument...at a minimum. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

I'm surprised that nmap is still here. :eek:

Richard
12-17-2008, 07:31
Shoes, politics, and political cartoonists = ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

greenberetTFS
12-17-2008, 11:40
I'm surprised that nmap is still here. :eek:

Sdiver,

Your avatar is really cool. :cool:

GB TFS :munchin

ZonieDiver
12-17-2008, 11:59
The thing about the "shoe-throwing incident" (as I am sure it will be called in history books in the future) even more than President Bush's "cat-like reflexes" is the way he handled it - during and after - with self-deprecating humor.

People pick on his malapropisms and butchered speech patterns (it isn't nice to make fun of people due to what must be genetic traits - just look at his father's speeches. No one said President GHW Bush was a big idiot). TV comics often make fun of his 'chuckle'. His "down-home-isms" are ridiculed, too.

I think, soon, we shall miss such behavior in our president...

Sigaba
12-17-2008, 12:21
The thing about the "shoe-throwing incident" (as I am sure it will be called in history books in the future) even more than President Bush's "cat-like reflexes" is the way he handled it - during and after - with self-deprecating humor.

People pick on his malapropisms and butchered speech patterns (it isn't nice to make fun of people due to what must be genetic traits - just look at his father's speeches. No one said President GHW Bush was a big idiot). TV comics often make fun of his 'chuckle'. His "down-home-isms" are ridiculed, too.

I think, soon, we shall miss such behavior in our president...

Sir, for what it is worth, I agree.

I've long been of the view that Bush the Younger has many of his mother's mannerisms, especially the eyes, the sense of humor and her quick, warm smile. His critics point to an alleged habit of shifting his gaze during televised appearances but I wonder what is actually happening in the room? I think what is happening is that the president is making eye contact with people in the room rather than looking into the cameras, as his predecessor constantly did.

I regret that Bush the Younger did not do more to communicate directly with the American people to offset the enduring hostility of the media and certain elements of the culture industry.

Gypsy
12-17-2008, 19:22
I think, soon, we shall miss such behavior in our president...

Indeed. He was not "perfect", but who is. I love our President and he will be missed.

Richard
12-18-2008, 07:11
Now here's a truism! ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Pulsar
12-18-2008, 21:57
Those cartoons were great Richard! I'll have to use them to taunt my liberal friends.

Richard
12-19-2008, 08:40
Those cartoons were great...I'll have to use them to taunt my liberal friends.

Here's a good one I sent to some pals over in that other government agency. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

T-Rock
12-01-2009, 18:32
Iraqi shoe-chucker Mantadhar al-Zeidi - Gets taste of his own medicine :D

He looked a little upset...LOL... Live by the shoe, die by the shoe :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnJODEXssw&feature=player_embedded

Gypsy
12-01-2009, 18:46
Nice. :D

stickey
12-01-2009, 19:51
Excellent.

The Reaper
12-01-2009, 20:24
Payback's a bitch, ain't it?

TR

Box
12-01-2009, 21:27
...and then the guy who threw a shoe at the guy who threw a shoe got a shoe threw at him.


As "Austin Powers: would say...
"who throws a shoe? honestly; you fight like a woman!"

blockedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5oKEVqQJg

orion5
12-02-2009, 00:43
Classic.

These guys should spend more time at the shoe-ting range.

Stealthed
12-02-2009, 01:34
Iraqi shoe-chucker Mantadhar al-Zeidi - Gets taste of his own medicine :D

He looked a little upset...LOL... Live by the shoe, die by the shoe :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnJODEXssw&feature=player_embedded

Terrible throw... but that's pretty damn funny. Guy sitting down had way better aim when throwing at GW. :D

kimberly
12-02-2009, 09:05
What goes around, comes around.

Too bad it didn't hit him in the face.

These guys should spend more time at the shoe-ting range.
Orion5, that's hilarious.

orion5
12-02-2009, 12:58
My favorite part was a closeup of the "weapon" sitting on the floor afterwards. That was a nice cinematic touch. :D

Maybe Oprah can book The Shoe on her show - do a documentary on where it came from, where it's been, how it feels about being launched at a Terrorist Lover. :munchin

orion5

The Reaper
12-02-2009, 14:38
Maybe we can look for the Dims to initiate legislation to ban shoes.

TR

DemoMan
12-02-2009, 14:46
Classic.

These guys should spend more time at the shoe-ting range.

http://www.instantrimshot.com/

T-Rock
12-02-2009, 16:22
Maybe we can look for the Dims to initiate legislation to ban shoes.

TR

If shoes are outlawed, only outlaws will have shoes :D