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nmap
12-12-2008, 22:40
Tragic as the situation is, I am reminded of the statement: "There is never just one cockroach". How many more of these situations exist? And - how can any confidence in the markets survive such theft?

I begin to wonder whether the corruption can be cleaned up.

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Bernard L. Madoff, a former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market and a force in Wall Street trading for nearly 50 years, was arrested by federal agents Thursday, a day after his sons turned him in for running what they said their father called "a giant Ponzi scheme."

The Securities and Exchange Commission, in a civil complaint, said it was an ongoing $50 billion swindle, and asked a judge to seize the firm and its assets. "Our complaint alleges a stunning fraud that appears to be of epic proportions," said Andrew M. Calamari, associate director of enforcement in the SEC's New York office.

In a separate criminal complaint, Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Theodore Cacioppi said Mr. Madoff's investment advisory business had "deceived investors by operating a securities business in which he traded and lost investor money, and then paid certain investors purported returns on investment with the principal received from other, different investors, which resulted in losses of approximately billions of dollars."

Dan Horwitz, a lawyer for Mr. Madoff, declined to elaborate on the allegations. "Bernard Madoff is a longstanding leader in the financial-services industry with an unblemished record," Mr. Horwitz said in an interview. "He is a person of integrity. He intends to fight to get through this unfortunate event."

The 70-year-old Mr. Madoff is the founder and primary owner of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC. The firm is primarily known for its business in market-making, or serving as the middleman between buyers and sellers of shares. But Mr. Madoff also oversaw an investment-advisory business that managed money for high-net-worth individuals, hedge funds and other institutions.

According to the complaints, Mr. Madoff ran the investment advisory as a secretive business, independent from the firm's proprietary trading and market-making operations. The SEC complaint said that the alleged fraud was run through this arm of Mr. Madoff's company.

The FBI complaint quotes two senior Madoff employees as saying Mr. Madoff ran the investment arm on a separate floor of the firm's offices. The two employees said Mr. Madoff kept the financial statements from the firm under lock and key and was "cryptic" about the firm's investment business.
The complaint did not name the two senior employees. But according to people familiar with the matter, they are Mr. Madoff's sons, Andrew and Mark. Mark Madoff is the firm's senior managing director and chief compliance officer. Andrew Madoff is its director of trading.

A call to the sons' attorney was not returned.

Both complaints say Mr. Madoff told his sons he believed losses from his fraud exceeded $50 billion. That figure couldn't be confirmed. But such a loss is plausible, had money been flowing in and out for years: At the beginning of 2008, according to the SEC filing, his operation had more than $17 billion under management.

Such a scheme would dwarf past Ponzi schemes. It would also be nearly five times larger than the accounting fraud that drove telecom company WorldCom into bankruptcy proceedings in 2002.

The criminal complaint said that when Mr. Cacioppi and another agent went to Mr. Madoff's apartment Thursday, Mr. Madoff told them: "There is no innocent explanation." Mr. Madoff told the agents that "he paid investors with money that wasn't there," adding that he was "broke" and had decided "it could not go on." He said he expected to go to jail.

Mr. Madoff didn't enter a plea during a court hearing Thursday evening. He was released after agreeing to post a $10 million bond secured by his Manhattan apartment. A preliminary hearing was scheduled for Jan. 12. He declined to comment after the hearing.

Earlier this month, the criminal complaint says, Mr. Madoff told one of his sons that "clients had requested approximately $7 billion in redemptions, that he was struggling to obtain the liquidity necessary to meet those obligations." On Tuesday, the complaint alleges, Mr. Madoff added that he wanted to pay bonuses to employees this month, which was earlier than usual.
The next day, the sons met with Mr. Madoff at his office to ask about the bonus situation because he had appeared to be under "great stress" in prior weeks, they told the FBI. Mr. Madoff refused to answer their questions and arranged to meet them at his Manhattan apartment, the complaint says.
Mr. Madoff "wasn't sure he would be able to hold it together" if they continued to discuss the issue at the office, the complaint quotes one of the sons as saying. At the apartment, Mr. Madoff confessed that his business was a fraud and that he was "finished." He said he had "absolutely nothing," that "it's all just one big lie," and that it was "basically, a giant Ponzi scheme." He told them the firm was insolvent, according to the complaint.

Mr. Madoff told them he planned to surrender to authorities, but first, he wanted to pay certain employees portions of the $200 million to $300 million dollars that was left.

According to a person familiar with the firm, the sons brought the matter to the attention of their attorney, who notified federal officials Wednesday night.
Since its inception almost a half-century ago, the Madoff firm has been a family affair. Mr. Madoff started his company with $5,000 he saved from a lifeguarding at Rockaway Beach in Queens and a job installing underground sprinkler systems, according to a 2000 report in a trade magazine, "Wall Street + Technology."

Mr. Madoff's brother, Peter Madoff, joined the firm around 1970 and is the senior managing director. Peter Madoff did not return calls for comment.
The two sons, Andrew and Mark, have worked for the securities firm since graduating from college 20 or so years ago. Neither is involved in the asset-management business that their father runs, according to a person familiar with the situation.

"All of his family members grew up with this being our lives. When it is a family operated business you don't go home at night and shut everything off. So you take things home with you, which is how all of us grew up," Mark Madoff told "Wall Street + Technology."

According to a 1986 report in a monthly financial magazine, Financial World, titled "The Highest Paid People on Wall Street," Mr. Madoff owned three homes and kept a yacht moored in the Bahamas. The report said he earned $6 million in 1985. Property records show at one point he owned a home in Montauk, N.Y., and paid more than a $1 million in annual taxes. He has made major donations to Democratic candidates and organizations.
Mr. Madoff's asset-management business appealed to investors for its remarkably steady returns for investing in the stock market. His investors consistently enjoyed small monthly gains, usually between zero and 2%. Mr. Madoff told investors his strategy was to trade in and out of large-cap stocks and buy options on those shares to help smooth the ups and downs. When he failed to see opportunities in the market, he would shift to U.S. Treasurys, according to fund marketing documents and people familiar with his strategy.

Mr. Madoff's Fairfield Sentry Ltd., a hedge fund run by Madoff Investment Services to invest in shares in the S&P 100, claimed to be up 5.6% through the end of November, a period when the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index was down 37.65%. In October, Fairfield Sentry was said to be down 0.06%, a month when the S&P 500 lost 16.8%. Since its inception in December 1990, the fund averaged a 10.5% annual return, according to fund documents.
Such returns sparked widespread skepticism for years on Wall Street. News stories raised questions about his approach. A number of traders suggested his firm could be buying shares for its own account just before it filled orders for customers, an illegal act called front-running.

In 2001, Mr. Madoff told Barron's that charges of front-running were "ridiculous."

An executive in the securities industry, Harry Markopolos, contacted the SEC's Boston office in May 1999, urging regulators to investigate Mr. Madoff. Mr. Markopolos continued to pursue his accusations over the past nine years, he said in an interview on Thursday, and according to documents he sent to the SEC that were reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

"Bernie Madoff's returns aren't real and if they are real, then they would almost certainly have been generated by front-running customer order flow from the broker-dealer arm of Madoff Investment Securities LLC," Mr. Markopolos wrote to the SEC in November 2005.
The SEC declined to comment on the matter.

Mr. Madoff's investors described their shock and panic on Thursday. Susan Leavitt of Tampa Bay, Fla., said she had several million dollars of inherited money invested in the firm and added $500,000 earlier this year. A stay-at-home mother with two children, the 46-year-old Ms. Leavitt says she is considering going back to work. "That was my nest egg for the children, and my future. I'll never see much back, I'm sure," she said.

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LINK (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122903010173099377.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)

stuW
12-18-2008, 09:02
"Mr. Markopolos, a native of Erie, Pa., who had trained in "unconventional warfare," including intelligence gathering, as a reservist in the Army..."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122956182184616625.html


Harry Markopolos -- who once worked for a Madoff rival -- sparked the probe with his nearly decadelong campaign to persuade the SEC that Mr. Madoff's returns were too good to be true. In recent days, The Wall Street Journal reviewed emails, letters and other documents that Mr. Markopolos shared with the SEC over the years.

When he first began studying Mr. Madoff's investment performance a decade ago, Mr. Markopolos told a colleague at the time, "It doesn't make any damn sense," he and the colleague recall. "This has to be a Ponzi scheme."

ZonieDiver
12-18-2008, 09:07
"Mr. Markopolos, a native of Erie, Pa., who had trained in "unconventional warfare," including intelligence gathering, as a reservist in the Army..."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122956182184616625.html


Harry Markopolos -- who once worked for a Madoff rival -- sparked the probe with his nearly decadelong campaign to persuade the SEC that Mr. Madoff's returns were too good to be true. In recent days, The Wall Street Journal reviewed emails, letters and other documents that Mr. Markopolos shared with the SEC over the years.

When he first began studying Mr. Madoff's investment performance a decade ago, Mr. Markopolos told a colleague at the time, "It doesn't make any damn sense," he and the colleague recall. "This has to be a Ponzi scheme."

Remember when candidate McCain called for SEC chairman Cox to be fired at the beginning of this disaster? Remember how he was roundly criticized by almost everyone as being "uninformed" as to "what the real problem" was? Fired... we should borrow Castro's "paredon" for most of these guys.

nmap
12-18-2008, 12:31
Oh, I don't know...perhaps extraordinary rendition would be appropriate as a first step.

Let's think about this. We have a 70 year old fellow who manages $50 billion dollars...and has to produce lots of client statements...paperwork for the SEC and FINRA...tax statements...and quite possibly keep a different set of books...all while running another business, having an active social life, traveling, and recruiting new clients.

Is Madoff really superman in disguise? Has he found the world's largest supply of espresso?

And now let's consider his sons. He tells them that he's done a really bad thing. And they (seemingly) look at each other and without a bit of hesitation, make the call to put dad in prison for the rest of his life - and dissolve his fortune under a cascade of lawsuits. Such honesty! Such paragons of virtue! Or... an act to misdirect the attention of investors and regulators?

Something is wrong here, and I suspect we haven't heard much of the truth so far. Now if Mr. Madoff could be extradited to some place with less stringent constitutional protections for the accused, perhaps his conscience would motivate him to be more forthcoming. Not that that will ever happen. Currently, he's languishing in his $7 million apartment in New York.

SF0
12-18-2008, 18:09
Interesting. I have been working for Madoff's nephew, and he has his own opinions on this ordeal. Definitely not in defense of the Madoff sons, I can tell you.

CoLawman
12-18-2008, 23:30
Nmap hit the nail on the head. It does not take a seasoned detective to realize that this was far more than a one man operation. The sons would certainly be the focus of my investigation along with everyone who worked under this POS. I find it particularly interesting that his ponzi was not discovered far in advance of it's swelling into one of the largest capers in history. I also find it interesting that certain people responsible for overwatch are actually betrothed to the family.

Madoff was the head of the gang. The gang of people involved in this scam with him must be pursued and prosecuted.

How is it that Mr. Markopolos was ignored for all these years? I understand the ol' sour grapes excuse for not following up on a complaint. But to not even do a cursory examination of the books indicates to me additional evidence that the gang extend outside of the Madoff firm and into the regulatory agencies employees.

Justice will only be served if these criminals (all of them) spend the rest of their natural born lives in prison. The damage they have done to individuals and non profit organizations sickens me.

I also understand the ability of Presidents to pardon people. These thugs, who have lined the pockets of Democratic coffers, are certainly in line for special treatment by president ELECT Obama.

OBAMA Pardons I predict will occur in the future:
Madoff et al.
Rahm Emanuel
Mayor Alphabet from Chicago
Reverend Jesse Jackson
Rep Jesse Jackson Jr.

AngelsSix
12-19-2008, 07:22
You know, I am no genius, but I was wondering how someone makes that kind of money disappear without someone noticing along the way. I heard rumor that this guy almost got The Donald involved in his little scheme.

Mayor Alphabet from Chicago Very funny, I like it!!:D

Richard
12-19-2008, 07:29
You know, I am no genius, but I was wondering how someone makes that kind of money disappear without someone noticing along the way.

You do realize that there is a precedent for this type of fiscal mismanagement. ;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

AngelsSix
12-19-2008, 07:39
Of course, I just don't see how billions just disappeared without anyone noticing, I realize it has happened before and will happen again. Obviously the guy was a real schemer.

nmap
12-19-2008, 13:52
Of course, I just don't see how billions just disappeared without anyone noticing, I realize it has happened before and will happen again. Obviously the guy was a real schemer.

Some went to investors as payments. The trustee will probably force those who received payments to return some of the money they received - which may be part of the reason the charities are shutting down. There will then be no corporate entity to pursue.

Some probably went into market losses.

But I suspect billions went to some place safe and secret. With years (maybe decades?) to create false trails, it may take some serious investigation to find it. I am not at all sure such investigation will be done.

The odd thing is that not too much went into high living. Even a single billion would fund quite an impressive lifestyle - and although Madnoff lived well, he didn't seem to live that well.

There's just something that strikes me as strange; that it's more than a simple theft. But perhaps that's just excessive suspicion.

Defender968
12-19-2008, 18:13
But I suspect billions went to some place safe and secret. With years (maybe decades?) to create false trails, it may take some serious investigation to find it. I am not at all sure such investigation will be done.

I agree, I'm sure there's a ton of money stashed in the Cayman Islands or in Zurich in numbered accounts.

The odd thing is that not too much went into high living. Even a single billion would fund quite an impressive lifestyle - and although Madnoff lived well, he didn't seem to live that well.

There's just something that strikes me as strange; that it's more than a simple theft. But perhaps that's just excessive suspicion.

Again I agree, even 1 billion would be enough that even with an extremely extravagant lifestyle one would have trouble spending it all, with 50 billion, I'm thinking there's much more to this, not to mention once he had the first billion without anyone noticing, why continue the scam, really how much ill begotten income can one man use, not to mention I can't imagine it's easy to play hide the shell with a Billion dollars, let alone 50 Billion, clearly this goes very deep, and I'm betting we won't ever know how deep it goes.