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With a 1:30 left in the 4th, looks like Florida will finally get the #1 spot they were so capable of. Tonight's game was, in all actuality, the National Championship game. Whoever put their money on FL with the spread that the press was giving FL, came awfully close.
With Harvin back for the BCS...who ever they play doesn't stand a chance.
cornelyj
12-07-2008, 13:57
GO GATORS... we will find out tonight @ 2000 EST and hopefully get my truck ready for a trip down to good ole Miami for the game!!!
Well, the #2 spot....i would argue, but hey, come Jan 2 it will work itself out. Lucky you going to Miami. I will be en route to Fort Sill, very close if not already in Oklahoma come game time...and yes, with all my Gator flags and magnets on my truck. Incoming!!!
cornelyj
12-07-2008, 20:11
#2 it is.... looks like I'm headed home for the weekend to visit some old buds and spend my lifesavings on a "nosebleed" seat. Have fun humping at Fort Sill...
Remember the Gator nation is everywhere!!!:lifter
Boomer Sooner!
It should be OU vs Texas in the NC game.:munchin
It should be OU vs Texas in the NC game.:munchin
Ha! Thats the Big 12' fault for allowing outside people to vote.
It will be a shame that Stoops will lose to a school that he coached at, and won a national championship at. Too bad for him.
I will make the trek down to Miami as well. Im hoping my dad will get tickets some how. Go Gators!
cornelyj
12-07-2008, 23:14
Sorry for your loss WCH. :cool:
Same situation last year for GA since they didn't make it to the SEC game. I'm a firm believer that football should have a better "play off" type system like basketball does...
Ha! Thats the Big 12' fault for allowing outside people to vote.
It will be a shame that Stoops will lose to a school that he coached at, and won a national championship at. Too bad for him.
I will make the trek down to Miami as well. Im hoping my dad will get tickets some how. Go Gators!
I can get you a couple of tickets for $250 ea......Oh wait! You're a Gator... make that $3500. ea.:D
There's seating available for you and 47 of your closest friends:cool:
LUXURY SUITE* NotesNotes $287,500.00
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Private luxury suite. Accomodates 48 people. Tickets Will Arrive On 12/12/2008
cornelyj
12-09-2008, 09:49
Yeah I saw those too!!! that is about 6 GRAND a ticket!!!!
I think I'll just sell my motorcycle to go to the Gator game? NAWWW!!!
Hopefully I can get one of those prized tickets through the athletic ass. and my job here. Last I heard employee/student (me) tickets were $185 Visa or Master Card but the catch is you have to be one of the lucky few that gets selected in the entire school lottery which is about 1 in 35,000ish who actually take the time to sign up for the lottery.
The Alamo for tickets would be eBay I guess? any suggestions?
The cheap seats on stubhub are going anywhere from $400 to $700. Too much for me, especially at that stadium.
Those $250 tickets WCH should would be nice!
I can't wait for the game. Boomer Sooner.
I wish the game was this weekend. With the roll the Sooners were on, they were unstoppable. I'm just hoping they don't get cold in the down time.
14 more days until the Gators get to chomping!!!
14 more days until the Gators get to chomping!!!
Hehehe....:munchin
Good Luck with that, seriously! When one is humble, it is a whole lot better to root for a Team.:)
Just my humble .02$
Holly
cornelyj
12-29-2008, 00:50
In MIA now hopefully after some games the prices will lower.... or maybe I will just waste some more money on my scope and rifle instead of a 3 grand ticket...
GO GATORS!!! thanks Holly for the wishes...
The wait is killing me. I tried to get the Friday after the game off, but we have a uniform inspection. So, that was a no go. Guess I'll either be dead tired from celebrating, or dead tired from sobbing. Either way, I can't wait.
BOOMER SOONER :lifter
cornelyj
01-08-2009, 17:58
BE SURE TO TUNE YOUR TUBE TONITE!!!
Off to the O'dome! Go Gators... Go Fighting Gator Bn!!!
BE SURE TO TUNE YOUR TUBE TONITE!!!
Off to the O'dome! Go Gators... Go Fighting Gator Bn!!!
And ONE more...Boomer Sooner!:lifter
Holly:)
And ONE more...Boomer Sooner!
Holly:)
Boomer & Sooner and their Prairie Schooner are Gator bait... :D
GO GATORS!!!
That's the ballgame ladies and gentlemen. The Gators came in, started off rough, but then played and showed the world that the Sooner are not as good as they thought. No names that ran their mouths are now crying on the sidelines like the chumps they are!!!
Good Job Harvin, Tebow, and the rest of the Gators and Gator Nation!!!
Bill Harsey
01-08-2009, 22:54
GO GATORS!!!
That's the ballgame ladies and gentlemen. The Gators came in, started off rough, but then played and showed the world that the Sooner are not as good as they thought. No names that ran their mouths are now crying on the sidelines like the chumps they are!!!
Good Job Harvin, Tebow, and the rest of the Gators and Gator Nation!!!
Was it you who wrote that book about winning gracefully? ;)
Gators are a h*ll of a team. Do they play USC next?
AVS won tonight.
Beat the Blackhawks, 2-1. :lifter
Boomer & Sooner and their Prairie Schooner are Gator bait... :D
JJ, LOL!:D
Great game, and here is to hoping for next year!:lifter
Holly
JJ, LOL!:D
Great game, and here is to hoping for next year!:lifter
Holly
Sorry Holly,, One of us had to lose... :cool:
ZonieDiver
01-09-2009, 15:12
Was it you who wrote that book about winning gracefully? ;)
Gators are a h*ll of a team. Do they play USC next?
UF-USC would be a helluva game!
It was a good game, alot better than what I thought it was going to be. Pretty rough for both sides though. That Gator defense stuffed the Oklahoma offense twice in the end zone. Awesome!
I watched the post game on ESPN, and was impressed by Nic Harris's comments afterward. He is a stand up guy, especially for what he said about Tebow before the game.
But, we still do need a playoff in college football. UF vs USC would be an awesome game, and I can't wait for that to happen in the future. I am happy with the way things ended, but we still need a playoff. Its all about the money.
but we still need a playoff. Its all about the money.
A great game b/c as some QP's have said...it is KIDS having fun!:lifter
Am interested to hear your opinion on this fact about $$$ being involved?
Honestly, am not following the train of thought here.
PM me if you like, or post it here.:confused:
Holly
This is what I understand from it Holly.
The BCS is compromised of the big conferences in the NCAA. The SEC, PAC-10, Big-12, Big-10, ACC, and the Big East. The champion from each conference is guranteed a bid for one of the BCS bowl games, and the top two teams in the BCS rankings go for the BCS Title Game. And only one team from a non-BCS conference can compete in one of the BCS games, but apparently they cannot compete in the title game, because they do not come from one of the big conferences.
Apparently, the NCAA believes that this is a great system. If you think about it, the schools within these conferences are very big schools, and have huge football programs, with lots of money. (For some reason, if Notre Dame is ranked in the top 8, they have an automatic bid for a BCS game - why is that? Has to be because of money, IMO). Some of the big names in the NCAA are from these big schools, and by having their schools compete in these big bowl games, they are bringing more money to their schools.
If your school competes in a bowl game, the school receives some sort of money donation to the school, regardless of the bowl they played in. The BCS games give out a little more money, but apparently the Chic-fil-a Bowl and the Capital One Bowl supposedly gave out tons of money to the schools that played in their bowls this year. Little more than $2 million to each school.
But, by having these top tier football programs playing in the BCS games every year, they are guranteed a good pay-out, which is utimately unfair to teams from a conference that is not recognized by the BCS.
This is from the BCS website.
College bowls will pay out $187 million this season and $2.1 billion over the next decade. In the past five years, they have paid out $820 million.
Almost all bowl games are nonprofit organizations. The more revenue the bowl brings in through ticket sales, sponsors, etc., the more money can be paid to NCAA schools.
Bowl games generate increased donations, valuable visibility, and even increases in school enrollment applications. In addition, it can also increase long-term revenues in licensing, endorsement money, TV contracts, and season ticket sales.
The BCS is managed by the commissioners of the 11 NCAA Division I-A conferences, the director of athletics at the University of Notre Dame, and representatives of the bowl organizations. The conferences are Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, Pacific 10, Southeastern and Western Athletic.
The conference commissioners and the Notre Dame athletics director make decisions regarding all BCS issues, in consultation with an athletics directors advisory group and subject to the approval of a presidential oversight committee whose members represent all 117 Division 1-A programs.
Apparently, Notre Dame has their hand in all this. Sorry to drag this thread on, but I really do not care for the BCS bowl games. We do need a playoff. It will be fair to the schools who cannot get a bid to one of the BCS bowl games. Because these games do pay out more money. The people sitting on the BCS board are all from the big schools, thats why they like the system the way it is. Because according to their website, bowl games produce revenue, and if a small school like East Tennessee State gets into a bowl game, they won't make as much money as Ohio State, because their fan base is not as big, and they do not have donors as big either. Its all about money. If you can bring money into the bowl game through ticket sals and revenue, you are pretty much guranteed a spot. IMHO. :munchin
Who do you think made the major bowl games what they are? What have the non-auto bid teams done to deserve a place in the BCS bowls? Do you think the Eastern Tenn's of of football have done what Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame and other major programs have done to make the Rose, Orange, Sugar, and Fiesta bowls the money makers they are today? Why should they give some Johnny-come-lately a free ride? IMO if there are teams/conferences that don't like the system, then let them build their own bowl games, or what ever they want and challenge the established premier programs for the big bucks. What does a team like Middle TN have to offer the SEC? What does Tulsa have to offer the Big 12?
ZonieDiver
01-26-2009, 23:42
Who do you think made the major bowl games what they are? What have the non-auto bid teams done to deserve a place in the BCS bowls? Do you think the Eastern Tenn's of of football have done what Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame and other major programs have done to make the Rose, Orange, Sugar, and Fiesta bowls the money makers they are today? Why should they give some Johnny-come-lately a free ride? IMO if there are teams/conferences that don't like the system, then let them build their own bowl games, or what ever they want and challenge the established premier programs for the big bucks. What does a team like Middle TN have to offer the SEC? What does Tulsa have to offer the Big 12?
Good point! That is exactly how the Fiesta Bowl came about. Back in the early 70's, Arizona State (and other, "lesser," Western Athletic Conference teams :)) were frequently ignored by major bowls, despite good records (see Utah). The Fiesta was created and featured the WAC champion vs. anyone they could get. It resulted in some great games - most featuring ASU, but one very memorable one had Wyoming! Seats were cheap and available, and I got to see Tony Dorsett play as a sophomore (I think) when Pitt came to the Fiesta Bowl.
I may be wrong, but I think the point of the BCS should be to try to determine a College Football Champion and not a BCS Conference Champion. I understand the history behind the bowl games and the reasoning for the automatic bids. But why should a clearly superior team like Utah have no real chance at the Championship when they are arguably as good as any other team just because their conference doesn’t bring in the big bucks. The idea of the playoff system is to settle this in the field and not by a computer. I submit to you my fellow college football fans, isn’t that how is suppose to work? :munchin
Playoff system now!
Slantwire
01-27-2009, 12:56
Ksgbobo - You've got a couple of your base assumptions wrong. Whether that will change your conclusions is still an open question. :)
The BCS is compromised of the big conferences in the NCAA. The SEC, PAC-10, Big-12, Big-10, ACC, and the Big East. The champion from each conference is guranteed a bid for one of the BCS bowl games, and the top two teams in the BCS rankings go for the BCS Title Game. And only one team from a non-BCS conference can compete in one of the BCS games, but apparently they cannot compete in the title game, because they do not come from one of the big conferences.
(For some reason, if Notre Dame is ranked in the top 8, they have an automatic bid for a BCS game - why is that?)
Bowl games are all organized by "non profit" organizations. Typically the organization is tied to the host city's Chamber of Commerce. Their real motive is to bring tourists (and tourist dollars) to the city. Football fans fill the hotels, eat at the restaurants, and pay to do all the touristy things the local economy wants.
The organization arranges for the stadium, refs, and the TV package. It does collect the ticket sales, but that TV money is by far the main driver in the payout the organization can afford to give to the schools. The TV stations pay more for the "big" bowls because they anticipate higher viewership, and therefore higher ad revenue. Most bowls (all, I think) have tie-ins with conferences (for example, they have 3rd pick of Big-XII teams and 4th pick of SEC teams). Some have one tie-in and one open slot for whoever is available. I don't think any bowls pair two "at-large" teams.
The BCS is a coalition of bowl game committees (Orange, Rose, Sugar, and Fiesta). That coalition makes its own ranking system, and picks who it wants to play in its five games. Since it's not beholden to anyone else, the coalition can make whatever selection rules it wants. It happens to guarantee slots to six conference champions (from the conference ties that existed before the four bowls affiliated). It then fills out the other slots using a preexisting coaches' poll, a variety of computer rankings, and some oddball rules for Notre Dame and non-BCS schools.
The top two teams in the BCS rankings go to the title game, whether they are from BCS conferences or not. It happens that a non-BCS team has never made it to the title game, but it's not barred by the rules. Likewise, a non-BCS team ranked in the top (6? 8?) is guaranteed a BCS berth. Under the rules, two or more non-BCS teams could make it, but that's never happened. And, of course, there is the Notre Dame rule.
And here's the part that always annoys me: Teams complain that they "got shafted" by the system. The rules were all published before the season, and generally the whiners are from teams that lost a game and can't accept that it knocked them out. Utah is a little different: they did go undefeated, but they also knew before the season started that strength of schedule mattered. So they remembered rule one and didn't quite meet the standard on rule two? Doesn't mean the system shafted you, it just means you didn't meet (all of) the standards.
Apparently, the NCAA believes that this is a great system.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the NCAA hates this system. These "non-profit" city organizations raise money from TV and ticket sales, and pay out money to the schools directly. (Most, if not all, conference rules then redistribute that money through the school's conference.) The NCAA is not involved at all. It runs the Div-1AA, 2, and 3 playoffs, but not the bowls. That's why the networks refer to the "BCS champion" instead of the "NCAA champion."
I'm pretty certain that the NCAA would love to get the teams into a play-off. If they did, the bowls would become like the NIT while the NCAA could sell TV rights and soak up the cash like it does for March Madness. Then the NCAA would take its cut and portion out what's left as the NCAA saw fit.
But, by having these top tier football programs playing in the BCS games every year, they are guranteed a good pay-out, which is utimately unfair to teams from a conference that is not recognized by the BCS.
If you can bring money into the bowl game through ticket sals and revenue, you are pretty much guranteed a spot.
Yes. True. And what's wrong with that? If people care about what you as a program are selling, you win. It's kind of like capitalism that way.
You are right on one point - it is driven by money. Teams that draw more traveling fans and higher TV ratings will be selected, because that's what's in the bowl committee's best interest.
Why is that not fair? Whose fans contribute to the big bowl experience, through ticket sales, hotel stays, merchandise sales, and TV viewing? If Florida State vs Texas brings $70M to a bowl game while Ball State vs Fresno State brings $30M to theirs, why shouldn't FSU and Texas get a larger payout?
I really do not care for the BCS bowl games. We do need a playoff.
That's your opinion. That's not everyone's opinion. We don't need a playoff.
First, I don't feel some all-consuming, all-important need to have someone tell me who the "best" team is. If we can't resolve who's number one, or we disagree with whoever a poll of sportswriters picked as number one, so what? I enjoyed watching the season and the postseason.
Secondly, it would actually reduce the number of teams playing in the postseason. Would it be a 4-team, 8-team, or 16 team playoff? Any way, it would leave a lot more teams out in the cold every year, when compared to the 60-some teams that go to a bowl now.
Thirdly, do you really think it's a good idea to have the NCAA run the playoff? Take all the money earned from building up the fanbases at USC, Miami, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma, et al, and give it to the NCAA? It's bloated and ineffectual enough as it is. AFTER the NCAA takes its cut, the money goes back out to Buffalo, Hanover, Loyola, Rose-Hulman, Yale, et al? What is this, redistribution of wealth?
Fourth, I do believe it would water down the season. The Arizona Cardinals prove that you don't need to be the best all year to get to a playoff championship game. With that pressure off, the regular season stakes go down, and so does the excitement. I love the way teams can't afford to coast once they've got the conference locked up. I love the exultation when Crabtree makes a huge play at the last second to save Texas Tech's season, and I love the wailing and gnashing of teeth when they lose the season again to Oklahoma just a week or two later.
Fifth, I've never heard a good plan to make the logistics work. Travel plans on a week's notice, for multiple weeks, doesn't work very well. Sure, you can do it in basketball, but college football's going to have an 80k-seat stadium to fill instead of a 10k basketball arena. If I recall correctly, the Div 1-AA final this year was played in front of about 12k in Chattanooga on a Friday night. Does that feel like a more ultimate venue than the Sugar Bowl?
In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I am a Virginia Tech graduate. I like the system because it's fun for me to watch, and because it benefits my alma mater. And I see no need to apologize for that.
cornelyj
01-28-2009, 10:50
You guys stop arguing and listen to Hitler!!!:lifter
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl74240.swf&video_id=cXNU2seVCwQ&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i4.ytimg.com/vi/cXNU2seVCwQ/hqdefault.jpg&sk=bnucHxsbNaJd7J0uDymkyYdGsqz8d1waC&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1&fs=1&hl=en
Who do you think made the major bowl games what they are? What have the non-auto bid teams done to deserve a place in the BCS bowls? Do you think the Eastern Tenn's of of football have done what Oklahoma, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame and other major programs have done to make the Rose, Orange, Sugar, and Fiesta bowls the money makers they are today? Why should they give some Johnny-come-lately a free ride? IMO if there are teams/conferences that don't like the system, then let them build their own bowl games, or what ever they want and challenge the established premier programs for the big bucks. What does a team like Middle TN have to offer the SEC? What does Tulsa have to offer the Big 12?
Very well said Sir! The University of Tulsa had a fantastic season, and has grown its organization over the past 30+ years, to really stimulate the local businesses and community to a very prosperous level.
However, the Big 12 is not the place for them, as they are now.
Just my .02.(armchair opinion:))
Holly