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JJ_BPK
10-30-2008, 08:01
Ain't Computers great????

This could save millions of $$$ Barry spent on ACORN registration.

Why bother when you only need to "recalibrate" the voting machines...


Video: Re-calibrated Machine in W. Virginia Appears to Record Vote Inaccurately

blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/video-recalibra.html

Video the Vote has a video showing Jackson County Clerk Jeff Waybright demonstrating how votes cast on uncalibrated touchscreen machines can jump from one candidate to another. This is the kind of problem that voters reported having in several West Virginia counties last week on touchscreen machines made by Election Systems & Software. Voters in Tennessee also complained about the same problem on ES&S machines.

In the video, after Waybright demonstrates the phenomenon on the uncalibrated machine, he calibrates the machine and votes again. But even though the machine is supposed to be fixed at that point, it appears to record a vote incorrectly.

In the first part of the video demonstrating an uncalibrated ES&S iVotronic touchscreen machine, Waybright touches the screen to cast a vote for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, but a check mark appears three boxes below Obama's name in the slot for Constitution Party presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin.

When he touches the box next to Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney's name, the machine sends him to a new screen where a box and keyboard are displayed for filling in a write-in candidate's name. When he selects the option for voting a straight-party Democratic ticket, the machine shows a check mark in the box next to Republican presidential candidate John McCain's name.

He then inserts a cartridge in a port at the front of the machine to calibrate it. When the calibration is completed, he pulls up a new ballot on the screen and selects the option to vote a straight-party Democratic ballot. The machine correctly marks a vote for Barack Obama. He touches a box next to Independent Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name to change the vote from Obama to Nader. But when he presses the screen to change to a straight-party Republican ticket, instead of placing a check mark in the box next to John McCain's name, the machine still shows a check in the box next to Independent Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader's name.

"Ah, it's out of calibration," Waybright says, unfazed.

He then adds, as if the error proves a point he was making, "If that happens, again, the machine lets you know."

Threat Level called Waybright to see if the video really shows what it appears to show. I say "appears to show" because the video jumps during the demonstration and it's unclear if there are any steps left out. ES&S did not respond to a request for comment.

Waybright tells Video the Vote that the county will dispatch technicians trained by ES&S to examine machines that cause problems for voters.

But when three voters in Jackson County first complained about the issue to his office, Waybright said the problem was the voters, not the machines. After the voters complained to the secretary of state's office, Secretary of State Betty Ireland contacted Waybright and directed him to re-calibrate the machines.

"People make mistakes more than the machines," Waybright told the Charleston Gazette, "but I went in yesterday and re-calibrated the machines. We are doing everything we can not to disenfranchise anybody."

When voters in other counties complained about the problem as well, Ireland instructed all 34 West Virginia counties that use the machines to re-calibrate them each morning during early voting and on election day.

All of the West Virginia voters complained that when they touched the screen to vote for Obama, the machine marked a vote for McCain. Shortly thereafter, however, three voters in Tennessee complained that when they touched their voting screen to cast a vote for McCain, the machine marked a vote for Obama.

The voting machines used in Tennessee were also iVotronic touchscreen machines made by ES&S.

The machines in West Virginia and Tennessee differ in one regard. West Virginia's iVotronic machines produce a paper print-out that scrolls behind a window, allowing voters to check that the machine has registered their selection as they make their choices. If voters make a change, the machine will print out their new selection as well. Tennessee's machines do not produce a paper trail. But all of the machines, in West Virginia and Tennessee, provide a review screen at the end of the electronic ballot so that voters can check their final choices before casting the ballot.

Video the Vote is a grassroots organization that has been sending volunteers into the field to monitor elections since 2006.

[REMINDER TO VOTERS: If you have problems casting a ballot, please contact us at vote@wired.com or add a report about your issue to our election map so we can track and investigate problems that come up. If you're adding a report to the map, please provide as much detail as you can to make it possible for us to verify the information. If you can provide us with your name and contact information to follow up with you and get more details, that would be even better. If you don't feel comfortable putting your name on the map, contact us at vote@wired.com.] See also:

Voting Machines Switch Votes; Officials Blame Voters
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Law Center Sends Letter to States About Vote-Flipping Machines
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Slantwire
10-30-2008, 10:43
All of the West Virginia voters complained that when they touched the screen to vote for Obama, the machine marked a vote for McCain.

But there's no direct record, right? (As far as I know, there's not supposed to be.)

So what's to stop a guy from voting for Obama, then going and complaining that the machine registered McCain, asking for "his" vote to be changed?

Pete
10-30-2008, 11:07
But there's no direct record, right? (As far as I know, there's not supposed to be.).....

Here in Cumberland County the electronic machine has a small paper reel on the left side. As you vote it rolls along recording the vote. Make a mistake and go back and the critter makes all kinds of noise but corrects your vote and moves along.

The Reaper
10-30-2008, 12:16
Maybe I am missing something, but other than the desire to know who won right away, what is wrong with a written ballot which is signed off and manually counted, and a inked thumb to show who has already voted?

TR

Slantwire
10-30-2008, 12:40
Maybe I am missing something, but other than the desire to know who won right away, what is wrong with a written ballot which is signed off and manually counted, and a inked thumb to show who has already voted?

TR

The "manually counted" bit does leave the door open for human error and intentional fraud.

In my less conspiratorial moments, I believe the real issue is the "instant gratification" culture jonesing for an outcome.

I'd have no problem inking my finger. But then you'd have the early voters with time to wash.

Either way, I'll be headed to my polling station from COL Moroney's funeral. I apparently am not eligible for early voting here in the UPA.

Gypsy
10-31-2008, 18:12
Here in Cumberland County the electronic machine has a small paper reel on the left side. As you vote it rolls along recording the vote. Make a mistake and go back and the critter makes all kinds of noise but corrects your vote and moves along.

Same here. And prior to touching the "submit your vote" tab there is a review screen in order for the voter to insure the ballot is correct.