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Pirates from Somalia seize weapons ship
ttp://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/26/africa/pirates.php
The pirates deserve the traditional fate of pirates...but I hope the crew of the Faina comes through this alive and well.
Update
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/09/27/somalia.piracy.ukraine/?iref=mpstoryview
Ambush Master
09-27-2008, 17:56
That one is nothing, check out this one, quote and link follow:
"Within days, pirates who had boarded the ship developed strange health complications, skin burns and loss of hair. Independent sources tell The Long War Journal that a number of pirates have also died. "Yes, some of them have died. I do not know exactly how many but the information that I am getting is that some of them have died," Andrew Mwangura, Director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, said Friday when reached by phone in Mombasa."
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/09/mystery_surrounds_hi.php
Irishsquid
09-27-2008, 19:51
That one is nothing, check out this one, quote and link follow:
"Within days, pirates who had boarded the ship developed strange health complications, skin burns and loss of hair. Independent sources tell The Long War Journal that a number of pirates have also died. "Yes, some of them have died. I do not know exactly how many but the information that I am getting is that some of them have died," Andrew Mwangura, Director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, said Friday when reached by phone in Mombasa."
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/09/mystery_surrounds_hi.php
"...skin burns and loss of hair." Wouldn't that be a sign of radiation poisoning?
Two different ships.
The Ship from Iran is the one that has the people getting sick.
Ambush Master
09-28-2008, 12:00
"...skin burns and loss of hair." Wouldn't that be a sign of radiation poisoning?
Yes, exactly my point!! Plus it is Iranian!!!
Two different ships.
The Ship from Iran is the one that has the people getting sick.
Correct, I was just bringing to light other, even more serious issues abound in that region!!
Another update. I find this story's development interesting, as I think the ship will be boarded.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jobxWTmigwctUzwCb1DtFPH5CReg
Interesting indeed! It could be radiation; but I wonder if some of the chemicals used in uranium enrichment and refinement might produce similar symptoms? (That's a rhetorical question - I suspect it's best not to post the answer. :) )
Thank you, Chef Penn, for the updates.
greenberetTFS
09-28-2008, 16:05
Pirates from Somalia seize weapons ship
ttp://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/26/africa/pirates.php
Penn,
I can't understand how these Somalian pirates can constantly keep getting away with this.....In this day and age you would think there has to be someway to stop them. :confused:
GB TFS :(
Irishsquid
09-28-2008, 16:08
Penn,
I can't understand how these Somalian pirates can constantly keep getting away with this.....In this day and age you would think there has to be someway to stop them. :confused:
GB TFS :(
Last I knew, there were definitely efforts other than the presence of armed warships to stop them, but we were never really given much of a free hand in HOA. That said, I came home a year and a half ago, and haven't kept up with the situation as well as I wanted to.
Another update. I find this story's development interesting, as I think the ship will be boarded.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jobxWTmigwctUzwCb1DtFPH5CReg
Yeah not the Russians are sending a ship to the location. Can not wait to see how that works. The dropped their demands down to 5 million so they may be wanting to get off the ship as quick as they can......... Need to get the SEALS out of the towns and mountains and back to Sea duty.....:lifter
Surf n Turf
09-28-2008, 16:27
"Within days, pirates who had boarded the ship developed strange health complications, skin burns and loss of hair. Independent sources tell The Long War Journal that a number of pirates have also died. "Yes, some of them have died. I do not know exactly how many but the information that I am getting is that some of them have died," Andrew Mwangura, Director of the East African Seafarers' Assistance Program, said Friday when reached by phone in Mombasa."
Ambush Master,
Wouldn’t it be interesting if someone sent in some “rat poison” to thin out the brood. :rolleyes:
SnT
I've heard it said that the only thing worse than getting hijacked by Somali pirates is being rescued by the Russians...:D
Team Sergeant
09-28-2008, 16:58
I've heard it said that the only thing worse than getting hijacked by Somali pirates is being rescued by the Russians...:D
Yup, pain is on the way and it speaks Russian.;)
tranquill
09-29-2008, 09:22
Somali pirates hijacked an*Iranian vessel with enriched*uranium from China! See here: http://samsonblinded.org/news/somali-pirates-hijack-iranian-ship-with-chemical-or-radiological-cargo-3525
tranquill, go and re-read the registration email you received when you registered. Do not post again until you do so.
Team Sergeant
I vote we send Congress on a cruise ship through that area and let it be known they're carrying lots of arms, $$, and yellowcake. Maybe we'll get lucky. :rolleyes:
If things get really sticky, we can send the DofF (attchd pic). :p
Richard's $.02 :munchin
PS - IMO an interesting episode of The Unit last night.
"If things get really sticky, we can send the DofF"
Now that is funny!! Always thought it was funny when soldiers named their vehicles...we had a platoon of SEAL's next door to us and they had their's named after all the character's in Duke's of Hazzard....no orange paint though...
Sir,
Would you please elaborate?
Respectfully,
Sigaba
PS - IMO an interesting episode of The Unit last night.
Sir,
Would you please elaborate?
Respectfully,
Sigaba
Here ya' go.
http://www.tv.com/the-unit/sacrifice/episode/1228096/summary.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=episodessh&tag=episodes;title
The Unit TV show
Pete,
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Sigaba
Here ya' go.
http://www.tv.com/the-unit/sacrifice/episode/1228096/summary.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=episodessh&tag=episodes;title
The Unit TV show
Loadsmasher
09-29-2008, 17:06
Hosted for free on CBS.com
.cbs.com/primetime/the_unit/video/video.php?cid=446409735&pid=W9kxLAHowMdrlkJYXNnMTfle2rukL0KS&play=true&cc=0
Just add www.
Red Flag 1
09-29-2008, 18:27
I vote we send Congress on a cruise ship through that area and let it be known they're carrying lots of arms, $$, and yellowcake. Maybe we'll get lucky. :rolleyes:
If things get really sticky, we can send the DofF (attchd pic). :p
Richard's $.02 :munchin
PS - IMO an interesting episode of The Unit last night.
I vote go with the cruise. Tell em it's free and a great photo op.
Doff'll do fine as well. Really like it!
RF 1
I say within 24 hrs it's over.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/30/us-warships-gather-around-hijacked-vessel/
The Reaper
09-29-2008, 20:45
Sounds like it would be better for everyone if it went to the bottom with all on board, and quickly.
TR
Sounds like it would be better for everyone if it went to the bottom with all on board, and quickly.
TRUse it as a "live-fire" training exercise.
Stay safe.
Honor among Pirates?
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LU82673.htm
Shootout between the radicals and the moderates. Three dead.
"Use it as a "live-fire" training exercise. Stay safe. "
Better yet..."STAY STRAFE"
anythingrandom
09-30-2008, 12:32
Penn,
I can't understand how these Somalian pirates can constantly keep getting away with this.....In this day and age you would think there has to be someway to stop them. :confused:
GB TFS :(
Perhaps we don't stop them. If that ship that made everyone sick turns out to contain some damning evidence against Iran...it could be useful. Maybe the Somalis were tasked with the piracy to try to catch Iran shipping contraband in or out. If not - maybe they should be.
My $0.02.
Fox News claims we have the pirated ship 'surrounded' with a USN destroyer. I'm trying to envision what a ship capable of 'surrounding' another ship might look like. :rolleyes:
Richard :munchin
anythingrandom
09-30-2008, 13:20
The new Engulfer class amoebaships are supposedly capable of that, sir.
Seems they have lost their nerve.
http://news.google.com/nwshp?tab=wn&ned=us&topic=w
So far they have released one last week that paid the ransom.
Local force rescued another and the Arms ship is past their date and they have not sank it yet. I think they will delay until they get paid or attacked. Last week they took another ship so I guess it is catch and release on the coast of Somalia.:mad:
greenberetTFS
10-24-2008, 12:09
So far they have released one last week that paid the ransom.
Local force rescued another and the Arms ship is past their date and they have not sank it yet. I think they will delay until they get paid or attacked. Last week they took another ship so I guess it is catch and release on the coast of Somalia.:mad:
SH_BHT,
Does anyone know what was the final outcome on this story? I don't recall seeing anything recently on it....
GB TFS :munchin
Copied from an AP report dated 27 Oct:
The arms-laden Ukrainian cargo ship MV Faina, hijacked Sept. 25 with a cargo of 33 battle tanks and heavy weaponry, focused international attention on the pirate menace off the Horn of Africa. Ships of the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet have surrounded it for a month to be sure the cargo does not get into the hands of insurgent groups linked to al-Qaida.
The pirates who hold the Faina said Monday that its operator wants to negotiate only for the release of the vessel and crew of 20 - and not its cargo.
The pirates' spokesman Sugule Ali said they received a fax on Friday from Viktor Murenko, the head of ship operator Tomex Team, saying Kenya had declined to pay any ransom for the cargo it claims.
The Murenko letter said the pirates are at, "liberty to destroy or throw the weapons to the sea if they deemed that fit," Ali told The Associated Press via satellite phone from the Faina.
In Russia, a spokesman for ship owner Vadim Alperin said such a thing was physically impossible as there was no way to unload or destroy the cargo with U.S. forces surrounding the ship.
"The ship owner doesn't care about the cargo, he has already cursed it in all ways possible," said Mikhail Voitenko. But he said that it was impossible to separate the cargo from the ship. "Physically it's impossible."
Kenya's Foreign Affairs Minister Moses Wetangula repeated that the government would not pay any ransom, and told the AP that Tomex Team is responsible for the cargo until it is delivered.
Ali said the pirates passed on a copy of Tomex Team's letter to the U.S. Navy, and that the Faina's captain, Viktor Nikolsky, confirmed the signature on the letter belongs to his boss.
Lt. Nathan Christensen, a U.S Navy spokesman in Bahrain, would not say whether it had received a copy of the letter.
He said on Monday that American ships guarding Faina, which is anchored off the coast, remain in daily contact with its crew and the pirates.
"We are still actively monitoring the ship, making sure the crew is healthy and the cargo is not offloaded," Christensen said, speaking by telephone from 5th Fleet's headquarters.
Several other nations have announced plans to deploy warships to the region, and the European Union is planning to dispatch its own naval squadron by December.
The Russian missile frigate Fearless also has arrived off the Somali coast, and Moscow has announced it will cooperate with the West on fighting the pirates.