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Warrior-Mentor
09-16-2008, 21:38
NBC is refusing to run this ad for the Pickens Plan:

http://www.pickensplan.com/news/2008/08/27/too-hot-for-nbc/

prep+opportuniy
09-16-2008, 22:36
NBC changed its position after they received extensive feedback on how ridiculous their position was. Allowing even more proof that the MSM needs a good stiff boot to remove their head from their 4th POC.

http://www.pickensplan.com/news/2008/08/28/nbc-the-pickens-plan-and-the-army/

Razor
09-17-2008, 12:21
Natural gas powered vehicles have been and continue to be available to consumers; the bottom line is that the majority of the market isn't interested, even with $4/gal gas prices. Supply and demand.

Pete
09-17-2008, 12:46
I always wondered why the average school bus has not been converted to a combination fuel/electric vehicle.

Most run a set route every day, morning and night. Most city and suburban routes are not that long. You would think a top covered in electric generation cells and some good batteries could give a big boost to a fuel/electric motor.

They sit out in the parking lot most of the day.

Warrior-Mentor
09-17-2008, 18:20
I would consider it...but we don't have the infrastructure to support it - yet.
(e.g. where do you refuel a natural gas vehicle on a drive cross-country?)

Team Sergeant
09-17-2008, 18:40
I would consider it...but we don't have the infrastructure to support it - yet.
(e.g. where do you refuel a natural gas vehicle on a drive cross-country?)

You go here and and plan current NG locations.

(Officers:rolleyes:)

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/stations/find_station.php

Team Sergeant

Red Flag 1
09-17-2008, 18:42
NBC = National Barrack Channel

ABC= All Barack Channel

CBS= Confirmed Barack Supporters

CNN= :munchin

MSNBC+ :munchin

RF 1

Red Flag 1
09-17-2008, 18:49
Natural gas powered vehicles have been and continue to be available to consumers; the bottom line is that the majority of the market isn't interested, even with $4/gal gas prices. Supply and demand.


I think UPS local delivery trucks are converting to compressed gas.

Anyone else know about this?

RF 1

longrange1947
09-17-2008, 21:28
Just Checked North Carolina, nothing, LNG, for over 250miles, quit checking after that.

GratefulCitizen
09-17-2008, 22:17
I think UPS local delivery trucks are converting to compressed gas.

Anyone else know about this?

RF 1

Only heard rumors.

The newer package cars were all turbo-diesel for awhile.
This didn't work so well.

In the long run, maintenance costs and service life tend to trump fuel economy.
The turbo-diesels also tend to add to the amount of time it takes to complete a route.
The extra wages also offset fuel economy gains.

The latest trend is 3rd generation small-block chevys.
Converting these to CNG/LPG would be relatively inexpensive.

greenberetTFS
09-18-2008, 05:28
NBC = National Barrack Channel

ABC= All Barack Channel

CBS= Confirmed Barack Supporters

CNN= :munchin

MSNBC+ :munchin

RF 1

RF1,

:cool: ;)

GB TFS