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Title says it all.
Good luck :-)
H
Radial engine with a two blade prop and tail (?) structure with a lot of metal.
Slightly tropical location with Eastern Block (?) rusted cars in the background.
Ain't got a clue. I'll wait for the experts.
Looks like somebody tried to turn it into some kinda' Zen garden.
I'm going with an OV-10 Bronco or a 0-2 skymaster SEA
A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?
Pat
Ambush Master
08-30-2008, 11:27
I'm going with an OV-10 Bronco SEA
A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?
Pat
Negative on both of these. The OV-10 is powered by a Garrett Turbine TPE331 series!!
The B-25s had Wright R2600s that were a "Twin Row" radial.
The wreckage is a "Single Row" Radial!!
Still mulling over the possibilities!!
A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?
Pat
The prop in the picture appears to be 2 blade. Most WW II US radial engines used a three blade prop, to include the B-25. The only 2 blade I can recall is the T-6 Texan, the trainer. Maybe the battleship float planes, Kingfisher (?).
Let me go look somewhere.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Missouri_Recovers.jpg
Yeah, the Kingfisher had a two blade prop.
Granted the metal is old and weather worn but the base looks like a mustard green, not in the US OD shade and Deff. not a Navy Blue.
1952 CESSNA 195 might fit the bill. Single prop radial. Tail seems close. That could put it in ROK
Lycoming O-235
Kinda Like a VW bug engine. 4 Cyl opposing.
OK here is the sign that was next to it.
It translates to:
Syrian Plane that attacked Kibbutz Ayelet Hashachar during the War of Independance. It was downed by rifle and machine gun fire from the kibbutz's inhabitants that were defending the kibbutz on 16 July 1947.
The "garden" that it is next to is actually part of a nursery school on the Kibbutz :-)
Sorry, i don;t know the exact plane type, but figure it was Eastern Block.
H
GratefulCitizen
08-30-2008, 12:18
Looks kinda like a Cessna Crane.
The engine looks like a Jacobs L-6.
http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/s,jacobsengine.html
http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/crane.html
British commonwealth plane around since at least 1940.
Well lookie here - Texans
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_253.shtml
"On July 16, Syrian Texans were in action again, attacking enemy positions at Afuleh and Ayelet Ha’Shakhar, where one was downed by groundfire. The pilot Lt Faisal Nadif and his observer/gunner, whose name is not known but might have been Fuad, were both killed. Although no official accounts of this incident have been released by the Syrian military authorities, some information lurked in Israeli archives for decades. Some of the documents add touching human details to what was otherwise a small incident in a wider war—see separate item."
Well lookie here - Texans
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_253.shtml
Nice call! :lifter
Pat
GratefulCitizen
08-30-2008, 12:45
Well lookie here - Texans
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_253.shtml
"On July 16, Syrian Texans were in action again, attacking enemy positions at Afuleh and Ayelet Ha’Shakhar, where one was downed by groundfire. The pilot Lt Faisal Nadif and his observer/gunner, whose name is not known but might have been Fuad, were both killed. Although no official accounts of this incident have been released by the Syrian military authorities, some information lurked in Israeli archives for decades. Some of the documents add touching human details to what was otherwise a small incident in a wider war—see separate item."
The engine:
http://www.sicuropublishing.com/servlet/the-786/Pratt-&-Whitney-R-dsh-1340/Detail