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Trip_Wire (RIP)
08-20-2008, 10:57
Army makes it official: Green Class A’s done
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 9:24:47 EDT
The days of the green Class A’s are over.
The Army’s plan to make dress blues the only Army Service Uniform has been approved and soldiers who own the uniform are encouraged to begin wearing it now, the Army announced Wednesday.
The move to eliminate the green uniform is designed to streamline soldiers’ clothing bags while modernizing the way the traditional blue uniform is worn.
The new wear policy was announced Wednesday in an Army-wide message from Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey and Sgt. Maj. of the Army Kenneth Preston.
Link:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/08/army_newblueuniform_082008w/
Looks like a mall cop uniform. ;) Are Segways next? :rolleyes:
Richard's $.02 :munchin
demodiver
08-20-2008, 11:31
Well i got em, but for those that dont... they are going to be breaking out the wallet, and it isn't cheap...
-Mac
Go Devil
08-20-2008, 11:45
Who are the geniuses that come up with this kind of s##t and why !?
Looks like shit with out the jacket. :p:p:boohoo
Kyobanim
08-20-2008, 12:10
Better wear a bib when you go to lunch
Is the 101st "pin" (for lack of a better term) on his right breast pocket the "combat service identification badge"??? :confused: :rolleyes:
makes me miss JROTC - and I was never in it...
Is the 101st "pin" (for lack of a better term) on his right breast pocket the "combat service identification badge"??? :confused: :rolleyes:
makes me miss JROTC - and I was never in it...
Never seen that. Have to check the AR for the updates.....
I am soooo glade I am Retired. I thought it was a joke and someone put a picture of a TSA Guy in Boots:D
I am soooo glade I am Retired. I thought it was a joke and someone put a picture of a TSA Guy in Boots:D
It is a SGM from 82nd so he may now be working for TSA.....:D:munchin
CPTAUSRET
08-20-2008, 12:55
I am soooo glade I am Retired. I thought it was a joke and someone put a picture of a TSA Guy in Boots:D
Good one!:) My favorite Army uniform was TW's.
bkleonards
08-20-2008, 12:57
After looking at the photo it kind of makes one wish they would bring back TW's. (miss the perm. press)
uscav_scout
08-20-2008, 13:08
Is it just me or is there something wrong with the way the uniform is being worn in that picture....
GreenSalsa
08-20-2008, 13:10
Thats it--I am going to retire before I wear that!
UGH!
:eek:
Jack Moroney (RIP)
08-20-2008, 13:20
That makes a fashion statement I do not think would be in keeping with my personna. The only thing that is missing is a swagger stick.
JumpinJoe1010
08-20-2008, 13:23
I have one question. Are new troopers going to know how to spit-shine? :munchin
I am trying to picture the uniform with long sleeves, because I believe it would much better than short sleeves. But heck, who is going to wear it aside from formals or boards?
The Reaper
08-20-2008, 13:32
I can't decide if it is an ROTC uniform, or an AF one from McPeake's days.
Bad idea
Bring back the khakis.
TR
bluenote
08-20-2008, 13:52
When I think of "Army Colors", I think of green, black, tan...but blue? It looks like an Air Force uniform.
I thought jump boots wouldn't be authorized with the blues but in the picture...
And finally, are colored unit patches (SSI) going to disappear? Why should the MCS carry 'em if there is nothing to sew them on. BN
Thats it--I am going to retire before I wear that!
UGH!
:eek:
I cant.
OMG! :eek:
Eagle5US
08-20-2008, 14:04
The Class B effort is nothing short of embarrassing. The "combat pin" looks ridiculous - especially with other stuff on the pocket. My goodness:rolleyes:
Wear out date is 2014? I'll be wearing my GREENS for my retirement at 30 :D.
Eagle
Go Devil
08-20-2008, 14:11
The whole thing looks like some sort of "Food Service" or "Ship Steward" uniform.
"More butter, Sir?"
....Bring back the khakis.....
Ah, to be an Airborne Buck Sergeant in a set of crisp khakis. Those were the days. Sharp looking uniform.
I, for one, do not like the new look. I liked the Ike jacket (before my time), the Khakis, the Dress Greens were OK but if you had to go formal they looked like crap with a white shirt. Blues for formal wear looked good.
This new look tried to blend the Greens utility with the Blues formal look. I think it has failed in both counts.
Just my opinion
GreenSalsa
08-20-2008, 14:15
are colored unit patches (SSI) going to disappear? Why should the MCS carry 'em if there is nothing to sew them on. BN
Look closely, they are wearing them on the pocket next to DS / Recruiter badges...:(
blue02hd
08-20-2008, 14:17
He looks like a cook. So enlisted will get the chicken stripe pipings as well? Is there anything else we can can throw in?
Rob_0811
08-20-2008, 14:24
epic fail.
terrible.
the members of the uniform board probably got MSM's for that abortion.:rolleyes:
Please ensure your trey table and seat are in the upright and locked position prior to landing.
He looks like a cook. So enlisted will get the chicken stripe pipings as well? Is there anything else we can can throw in?
Nope. I'm thinking that they have this as effed up as it possibly can be.
Maybe an option for the future would be to get a corporate sponsor and have a space designated for revenue-generating advertisements. :confused:
Back in June 2006 we talked about this when it first came up.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11030&highlight=Dress+Blues
Back then it was a pretty bare uniform, no jump boots, etc. Like I said above, it looks like the compromise was a failure.
Slantwire
08-20-2008, 14:36
Bring back the khakis.
Seconded.
FAILED,,
Any and all badges are going to sag like an 80 year olds boobs...
And putting unit crest or patches on the pockets, just looks very sad...
Are they going to put the Army logo on the back??
I'm with TR,, Bring back the Khakis...
FAILED,,
Any and all badges are going to sag like an 80 year olds boobs...
And putting unit crest or patches on the pockets, just looks very sad...
Are they going to put the Army logo on the back??
I'm with TR,, Bring back the Khakis...
Lets start a campaign for the Khakis. Hell I think I have mine in a box in my basement in the states.
From the guys that brought us the ACU.... this isn't a surprise... :rolleyes:
Patriot007
08-20-2008, 20:03
What was wrong with the khakis in the first place?
ZonieDiver
08-20-2008, 20:15
I loved crisply starched khakis, as well. It made one feel and look like a soldier! Any "flaws" of the khakis were more than made up for with the TW's! This "new" deal looks silly.
Dragbag036
08-20-2008, 20:40
Hey, I say "Exciting and New", Come get on board with this new uniform, we're expecting you!!!
thats some dumb lookin shit lol:boohoo
I loved crisply starched khakis, as well. It made one feel and look like a soldier! Any "flaws" of the khakis were more than made up for with the TW's! This "new" deal looks silly.
Okay, being a FOG I'm sure this will be a slap "my forehead moment", but, what the hell are TWs?
I loved the khakis but I hated the LQs. (I also hate acronyms and abbreviations :D)
Pat
Okay, being a FOG I'm sure this will be a slap "my forehead moment", but, what the hell are TWs?Pat
See my avatar. TWs (Tropical Worsted) were comfortable, easy to maintain (wash and wear), and looked like a military uniform. I loved my TWs. :)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
the members of the uniform board probably got MSM's for that abortion.
More than likely, they held their meetings in the IZ so they could make it a Bronze Star instead, and hope no one knows the difference between V and no V.
You think that they would at least select a model with a chest larger than his waist. A tapered shirt could present a soldierly appearance, but this guy needs a shirt larger on the bottom than on the top, and the effect is to plump him up.
See my avatar. TWs (Tropical Worsted) were comfortable, easy to maintain (wash and wear), and looked like a military uniform. I loved my TWs. :)
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Copy, thanks! (Didn't slap my forehead this time. I hadn't heard of them even though I was on Oki.)
Pat
For someone who is going to sign at the end of the year, this is not funny. This is not funny at all. Is there any chance that someone important somewhere will see this and say, "oh hell no!":eek:
Hey, I say "Exciting and New", Come get on board with this new uniform, we're expecting you!!!A war's going on and someone with the gayness, comes out with this uniform....
"I wonder who owns the company, that'll be making these uniforms?":munchin
Stay safe.
Go Devil
08-21-2008, 04:47
Originally posted by Guy:"I wonder who owns the company, that'll be making these uniforms?"
I'm sure that the person responsible for this malfunction is closely associated with said company and will probably be receiving profits if not employment when he/she ends their time in service.
GD
Copy, thanks! (Didn't slap my forehead this time. I hadn't heard of them even though I was on Oki.)
Pat
The Khakis were issued as well as the duty fatigues. Both were cotton based and sent out to Quartermaster Laundry to be starched stiff as boards.
Most one term troops simply wore those and got out. TWs and Wash-N-Wear fatigues were available for purchase at the PX and other places off post to replace the issued uniforms.
An SF formation of the day would have most of the SSGs and below in Khakis with the SFCs and up in TWs. So in SF it was about SSG time when you switched over, as you were replacing the clothing bag issue.
The Khakis were issued as well as the duty fatigues. Both were cotton based and sent out to Quartermaster Laundry to be starched stiff as boards.
Most one term troops simply wore those and got out. TWs and Wash-N-Wear fatigues were available for purchase at the PX and other places off post to replace the issued uniforms.
An SF formation of the day would have most of the SSGs and below in Khakis with the SFCs and up in TWs. So in SF it was about SSG time when you switched over, as you were replacing the clothing bag issue.
Pete's pretty much correct there. We also had to keep the original issue uniforms for display during the AGI because they were 'issue' items and had to be accounted for as a part of our issue.
This dress uniform change reminds me of the USAF fiasco which occurred in the early 90's during the 'reign' of GEN Tony McPeak (now of I'm with BHO fame) and his push to 'TACumsize' the AF as the non-fighter jocks referred to it.
Richard :munchin
Soft Target
08-21-2008, 06:22
Good one!:) My favorite Army uniform was TW's.
I liked shorts, knee socks and pith helmet. Oh wait a minute, that was one of my father's uniforms, not mine; but I still liked them.
rudelsg2
08-21-2008, 06:23
Who are the geniuses that come up with this kind of s##t and why !?
The former CoS Gen Schoomaker and SMA Preston. Why, because for some reason alot of higher ups in the Army have Marine envy and felt the need to compete with another uniform (the ACUs were not enough).
This uniform was the major topic for the SMA on his visits to our USASMA class. He was very excited about it. The result you see is over the compromise of three things; jump boots, the combat patch and the beret.
The original proposed uniform looked of a throw back to the frontier days, perfect return to roots for Cav guys in the Army (who run the big Army on the NCO side of the house). It is now obvious this uniform looks better with the Stetson and spurs rather than jump boots and berets.
The khaki uniform will never return (even though it is the best looking uniform). It is tied to a time in the Army that alot of the political higher ups spend alot of time trying to forget, the Vietnam Era and the 70's.
Look at the cyclops beret, flash right between the eyes.
Originally posted by Guy:
A war's going on and someone with the gayness....
Lmao! You make "gayness" sound like a virus:D
The Khakis were issued as well as the duty fatigues. Both were cotton based and sent out to Quartermaster Laundry to be starched stiff as boards.
Most one term troops simply wore those and got out. TWs and Wash-N-Wear fatigues were available for purchase at the PX and other places off post to replace the issued uniforms.
An SF formation of the day would have most of the SSGs and below in Khakis with the SFCs and up in TWs. So in SF it was about SSG time when you switched over, as you were replacing the clothing bag issue.
On Oki we were a company sized unit north of the Marine's Camp Schwab. Their PX didn't carry Army stuff and it was quite a haul to go south to shop. So we had our own tailor shop on base. Most of us had our fatigues and khakis tailored for a better fit. Caused me a bit of trouble with a nit-picking Top when I got back state-side. :D
Pat
Soft Target
08-21-2008, 09:31
Look at the cyclops beret, flash right between the eyes.
I was slow on the beret comment (looks like a conventional black beret wearer).
I showed the picture to co-workers, retired Navy and AF Intel types. Even their comments replicated the ones on here.
ZonieDiver
08-21-2008, 09:38
I liked shorts, knee socks and pith helmet. Oh wait a minute, that was one of my father's uniforms, not mine; but I still liked them.
One day in '71 I had to travel to Ft. Amador on the Pacific side to get a finance issue cleared up. The finance clerks were almost all wearing the khaki shorts and had pith helmets on their desks! I thought I had stumbled into an old "Rama of the Jungle" episode!
greenberetTFS
08-21-2008, 10:36
When I was discharged in Germany in Dec,1958. We had still been authorized to wear our "Ike" jackets as the official Class A uniform. However when I got to the States I was told I could not be discharged in that uniform. I was required to buy the new uniform if I wanted to get out.....:boohoo
I bet someone got promoted for this idea :p
Scimitar
08-21-2008, 16:30
My wife just looked over my shoulder and calmly said,
"I will leave you if you ever wear that."
Then walked off. :D
Enough said.
Whiskey Tango FOOOKIN Foxtrot.........
Well, guess that is it. My ETS is 2011, F retirement........ I refuse to be a part of the loveboat mafia.
And CSB called it!! Cycloptic non-standard crap.
I'm shocked to learn that so many guys joined the Army for the cool duds. :D
Pat
I'm shocked to learn that so many guys joined the Army for the cool duds. :D
Pat
The sad thing is there will be a bunch of 1SGs and SGMs who have to whip the troops into a dress formation.
The unit comes back from a year in the dirt, the troops are running to and fro, clearing/cleaning equipment, trying to take off, things to do and somebody will come up with a great idea "Lets have a dress uniform formation, we'll give out some awards, it'll look great." The closer the wear out date comes the more the pressure for the older guys to conform.
Guys, I'll tell ya' their heart will not be in it, no matter how much they growl and snarl. It's, It's - IT'S AN ARMY THING!:D
If 2014 is the wear out date than I should be senior enough to avoid having to every buy them. Change of Command? "No thanks SGM, I have a dental appointment that day."
x/S
99% of the active duty members i showed the article and accompanying picture of the new "food service uniform" didnt even believe me.
They actually think someone photo-shopped the picture and its a big www joke getting passed around.
Looks like someone's got a fairly big surprise coming
Trip_Wire (RIP)
08-22-2008, 14:59
Hmmm ... next time have them read this! :rolleyes:
http://www.marlowwhite.com/army/uniforms/service-dress-blue/asu-wear-policy.html
yea i had the Army Times article with the picture lol Guess the truth hurts
Read the link you just sent this morning, DA message and all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Service_Uniform
During a search for info i came across this Wikipedia page...scrolled down and who do i see ? :P Bet they dont have a clue (i sent it to them)
Is there any chance that someone important somewhere will see this and say, "oh hell no!":eek:
Did anyone when the black beret was being farmed out to the rest of the Army? Nope. Same same for this one.
Soft Target
08-22-2008, 15:16
The sad thing is there will be a bunch of 1SGs and SGMs who have to whip the troops into a dress formation.
The unit comes back from a year in the dirt, the troops are running to and fro, clearing/cleaning equipment, trying to take off, things to do and somebody will come up with a great idea "Lets have a dress uniform formation, we'll give out some awards, it'll look great." The closer the wear out date comes the more the pressure for the older guys to conform.
Guys, I'll tell ya' their heart will not be in it, no matter how much they growl and snarl. It's, It's - IT'S AN ARMY THING!:D
Yeah, you FOGs must have went through a lot of that over the years.
Obviously I never got to wear them, but I think khakis look damn sharp. Now thats a military uniform.
The new uniform does remind someone of a ships steward or purser. Jeez!! It almost looks comical. Like something out of a bad B movie trying to impress viewers.
My girlfriend who is also a LEO says, "I thought that was a flight attendants uniform. You know the white shirt and blue pants."
D9 (RIP)
08-24-2008, 20:38
It looks like some fat kid doing Army dress up out of what he could put together out of his parents closet.
They should never allow this uniform to be worn without the jacket. Or do like the USMC and use this uniform w/ jacket for blues and go back to khakis for daily wear. Like anybody walks around anymore with everything they own in a duffel bag. :rolleyes:
ZonieDiver
08-24-2008, 21:10
From that picture, I am reminded of something I heard my drill sergeant say early in Basic Training - "You look like 'Joe Shit the Rag Man!'"
From that picture, I am reminded of something I heard my drill sergeant say early in Basic Training - "You look like 'Joe Shit the Rag Man!'"
Speaking of Drill Sergeant. That actually looks like my Drill Sgt from Basic Training! Can anyone make out his name tag?
Speaking of Drill Sergeant. That actually looks like my Drill Sgt from Basic Training! Can anyone make out his name tag?
It is Sgt. Maj. Phil Prater.
I watched FT Apache last night and I see where they got the idea. What I don't understand, having not yet served, is why? Forgive the ignorance of the way the army works, but the saying. "if it ain't broke.." comes to mind.
My dad was in the army in WW2 and I'm partial to the uniforms of that era but it makes no sense to me, during war time, to play dress up. I also fail to see how it is more cost effective or "simplifying" to have to buy another new uniform.
Just out of curiosity, how many times a year would someone in an infantry unit have to wear the service uniform?
Guys,
I understand the 'simplicity' argument for reducing the amount and expense of clothing articles issued to soldiers--just don't think the new 'B' uniform looks very military or traditional. Now that the Army is going to the 'Mall Cop' look...will they also be going to electric golf carts with amber rotating lights on top to patrol the bases? :rolleyes:
Richard's $.02 :munchin
Trip_Wire (RIP)
08-25-2008, 15:09
The Army's Official website on the new uniform changes!
http://www.army.mil/asu/index.html
Reminds me of the scene in Patton, as Moroccan soldiers pass in review...
Patton: "Magnificent! I wish our troops looked that good!"
"Tell me, general,
what do you think of Morocco?"
Patton: "I love it, Excellency. It's a combination
of the Bible and Hollywood."
...and talking with Omar Bradley.
"Did I ever tell you about the time I
designed a uniform for tank crewmen.
It was green leather,
it had red stripes. . .
. . .and sort of a row of brass buttons
down across here.
And topped off
by a gold football helmet.
The Army rejected it, of course.
Goddamn, it was beautiful."
I had nine seperate field uniforms and 3 different Class A's or B's during my 20 yrs......the Army would F@#* up a wet dream given the opportunity!
Mac
"What they think we aren't....we are!" Confederate Bushwhacker 1863
CoLawman
08-26-2008, 07:38
I love the variation:
Wear with black windbreaker.
Now that will certainly dress it up. Am I the only one who believes that someone forgot the pocket protector?
Some people may want to edit their will to assure they won't be buried in this thing! :rolleyes: :munchin
magician
08-26-2008, 10:59
Bleh.
He looks like a South American dictator.
That shirt is not heavy enough to handle the weight of all the crap hanging off of it.
My wife said it looks like a banana republic police uniform.
x/S
Magician, Ex-Squid,
I concur wholeheartedly. Although if you opt for the additional option from Marlow White:polyester leisure suit and oversized sunglasses, for that less than formal occasion, one would instantly qualify for SE Asian dictator/president.
ZonieDiver
08-28-2008, 09:12
Magician, Ex-Squid,
I concur wholeheartedly. Although if you opt for the additional option from Marlow White:polyester leisure suit and oversized sunglasses, for that less than formal occasion, one would instantly qualify for SE Asian dictator/president.
Or an US Army CI officer/technician/agent from the mid-1970's!:)
Are unit patches, not combat patches, out on these new monkey suits? My wife thinks the ASU makes the Greens look like an Armani suit.
bricklayer
09-06-2008, 18:43
AWOL!
DisplacedTrojan
09-07-2008, 09:05
What the... the Army site (http://www.army.mil/asu/index.html) lists 'combat boots' as a variation on the B's.
What the... the Army site (http://www.army.mil/asu/index.html) lists 'combat boots' as a variation on the B's.
Well it is a new uniform plan and they may have decided to allow them again... I still think they are developing this on the fly and more things will change in the next year on this. Shirt and badges are something that they need to fix.
Combat boots, as in the tan suede current issue? That will look great. :rolleyes:
:DCombat boots, as in the tan suede current issue? That will look great. :rolleyes:
Some one at DAHQ might have a sense of humor...:D
Combat boots, as in the tan suede current issue? That will look great. :rolleyes:
Go to the DA site and it says "combat boots" as an option under "variations." The only boots they show are the traditional shined jump boots...which are what I 'assume' they meant.
Richard's $.02 :munchin
This weeks Army Times
Front page - Dress Blues Backlash......Soldiers blast new Class As as Bs.
Page 8 & 9
The troops don't like it.
This weeks Army Times
Front page - Dress Blues Backlash......Soldiers blast new Class As as Bs.
Page 8 & 9
The troops don't like it.
And in your experience Pete, how much will that weigh in?
My opinion and expeience counts for nothing.
Big Army hates to have to say it made a mistake so they'll shove it down the troops throat. Maybe, just maybe, somebody up there just might say "Wait a minute here." but I don't think so.
Look for somebody to "re-look" the issue about 5 - 10 years from now. Maybe Ike Jackets in UN Blue.
Maybe Ike Jackets in UN Blue.
:eek:. It will look like an army of maytag repair men. Ultimately, I suppose it makes little difference. I'm not interested in the life because of the clothes. But still...
This weeks Army Times
Front page - Dress Blues Backlash......Soldiers blast new Class As as Bs.
Page 8 & 9
The troops don't like it.
And remember the foofarah over the berets? The fight against that move didn't do much, either...and so it goes. ;)
Richard :munchin
:eek:. It will look like an army of maytag repair men.
You just reminded me of a funny episode in our IOAC. We had to have a group picture taken with everyone in Class A's. This wasn't an issue to anyone in the course--including our numerous 'allies'--with the exception of our IDF attendee (a commando who hung around with us SF guys) who did not have a Class A uniform. Those bivouaced behind desks in offices with aides on the upper floors of Infantry Hall let us know that everyone would be in Class A's for the picture. No exceptions. Period.
What to do? We put our heads together and in good SF problem solving fashion made him a Class A uniform by borrowing a UPS outfit (dark brown trousers and windbreaker jacket) from a neighbor in our apartment complex, pinning the IDF officer's rank and parachute wings to the jacket, and sewing a small shield of the Israeli flag on the jacket's sleeve (see atchmnt). The higher-up's were happy and we all had big smiles and a good laugh over it all. :D
Richard :munchin
I think the funniest part of that story is that it made the higher ups happy. Thanks for that one.
Here is how the troops view themselves in the new Class B uniform and a look behind the scenes of those charged by the uniform's proponents with 'selling' it to those who have to wear it. CADD Life is a daily spoof that comes from a guy confined to the dungeons of Fort Leavenworth's Halls of Lessons Learned and Doctrinal Mediocrity. :(
Richard :munchin
So they took away the Green's to make everyone look better in Blues - less flashy.
So whats today's headline in the Army Times?
"New Rules for Blues"
Short story - everything you used to wear on the Greens are now GTG on the Blues - except sewn on cloth unit patches and a thing or two here and there.
Jump Boots - Yes; Green, Tan and Maroon Berets - Yes; Overseas Bars - Yes; etc; etc, etc.
Utah Bob
07-12-2010, 15:31
The white shirt just makes my flesh crawl.
I'll be buried in my greens thanks.
Bob, before you get buried in your greens you oughta bury the jackasses that came up with the idea for that Dutch navy look alike outfit. :(:(
So they took away the Green's to make everyone look better in Blues - less flashy.
So whats today's headline in the Army Times?
"New Rules for Blues"
Short story - everything you used to wear on the Greens are now GTG on the Blues - except sewn on cloth unit patches and a thing or two here and there.
Jump Boots - Yes; Green, Tan and Maroon Berets - Yes; Overseas Bars - Yes; etc; etc, etc.
Well, the Combat Insignia Badge looks a little on the "Swing" side of things. especially with it in the middle of the breast pocket. Must really be attractive on the female version of the uniform. oh yeah, and they run about $12-20 for each one.
If I remember right, the wear out date for the Greens is the month after I plan to retire..... maybe I can avoid buying the new uniform.
bubblehead
07-13-2010, 08:25
The white shirt just makes my flesh crawl.
Be glad you don't have this in your closet :(
Kyobanim
07-13-2010, 08:51
Looks like a Mall Cop uniform
Be glad you don't have this in your closet :(
The Navy actually issues that uniform prior to deploying to the retirement home.
Green Light
07-13-2010, 09:59
The white shirt just makes my flesh crawl.
I'll be buried in my greens thanks.
I saw someone in the short sleeved shirt yesterday. It doesn't look army at all. Especially with the blue pants. Reminds me more of the West Point uniform than anything. The complete blues uniform just doesn't look right. It's always been something that was for special occasions. It looks like crap with jump boots, berets, and all the rinky dink metal unit insignia.
greenberetTFS
07-14-2010, 00:28
Well, the Combat Insignia Badge looks a little on the "Swing" side of things. especially with it in the middle of the breast pocket. Must really be attractive on the female version of the uniform. oh yeah, and they run about $12-20 for each one.
If I remember right, the wear out date for the Greens is the month after I plan to retire..... maybe I can avoid buying the new uniform.
Stras,had the same problem in 1958...... They made me buy my greens,and would not let me accept my 2nd discharge,in my browns(Ike Jacket,etc).................:rolleyes: Welcome to the club..........;)
Big Teddy :munchin
mojaveman
07-14-2010, 18:07
Ok, let's see if I got it. The class A uniform will now be blue like the formal dress uniform used to be. Will there still be a formal dress uniform?
Is it now going to be green?
I like Teddy's comment. Let's just go back to the brown boot Army, things were sure a lot simpler then.
Detonics
07-15-2010, 15:03
Well i got em, but for those that dont... they are going to be breaking out the wallet, and it isn't cheap...
-Mac
Seven bills tailored for my sons graduation from Apache school. And the first thing I did was poke holes in it! (wings):D
I thought it was a fabulous looking uniform. (on him) Now I'm locked in to a second set when his sis gets done with network admin school.
Trip_Wire (RIP)
07-15-2010, 15:32
Seven bills tailored for my sons graduation from Apache school. And the first thing I did was poke holes in it! (wings):D
I thought it was a fabulous looking uniform. (on him) Now I'm locked in to a second set when his sis gets done with network admin school.
Don't forget the Blue & the White Mess dress (Military Tux) , for really formal affairs. He might need to white vest and white tie for 'White Tie' formal affairs too! :D
Seven bills tailored for my sons graduation from Apache school. And the first thing I did was poke holes in it! (wings):D
I thought it was a fabulous looking uniform. (on him) Now I'm locked in to a second set when his sis gets done with network admin school.
Congrats to your son, Detonics! I'm heading to Apache school in November. Glad I waited to order my class A's. Maybe they'll issue me the new ones before I go :)
Don't forget the Blue & the White Mess dress (Military Tux) , for really formal affairs. He might need to white vest and white tie for 'White Tie' formal affairs too! :D
They don't invite us to formal affairs, T :rolleyes:
They also won't let me paint my bird to look like it's made of giant strips of bacon. Maybe after B.O. is out of office...
Who comes up with these ideas. Is this the result of "dont ask dont tell"?
craigepo
07-15-2010, 20:25
They also won't let me paint my bird to look like it's made of giant strips of bacon. Maybe after B.O. is out of office...
WWII nose art was the best.
I hated those damn pickle suits---glad to see them go away. My dad's Korean war photos in khaki's showed a much better looking uniform.
Utah Bob
07-15-2010, 20:32
WWII nose art was the best.
I hated those damn pickle suits---glad to see them go away. My dad's Korean war photos in khaki's showed a much better looking uniform.
Getting rid of Khakis was one of the dumbest moves ever! Comfortable, practical, good looking.
I guess that's why they did away with them.:mad::mad:
Detonics
07-15-2010, 20:41
Don't forget the Blue & the White Mess dress (Military Tux) , for really formal affairs. He might need to white vest and white tie for 'White Tie' formal affairs too! :D
:eek: Well, I guess instead of that Kahles glass I better start shoppin' for a Tasco or Weaver.
Congrats to your son, Detonics! I'm heading to Apache school in November. Glad I waited to order my class A's. Maybe they'll issue me the new ones before I go :)
Thanks! It was the proudest moment of my life. The boy made it through high school without crackin a book, went in as Infantry, got in at the start of Iraq went back once and then to AG. He got into flight school and learned his aviation subjects and aircraft inside out. Textbook example (so to speak) of someone applying themselves to the task at hand.
Kid walks on water as far as I'm concerned!
Best of Luck to you at Rucker!
1stindoor
07-16-2010, 12:10
Having just graduated USASMA I can tell you that probably 75% of the SGM wannabes had the new uniform...and most of them would have preferred to have kept their greens. I'm planning on holding out and retiring before it becomes mandatory.
Trip_Wire (RIP)
07-16-2010, 17:49
Getting rid of Khakis was one of the dumbest moves ever! Comfortable, practical, good looking.
I guess that's why they did away with them.:mad::mad:
I never cared for the khaki uniform. They just looked like you slept in them after an hour or two of wear, no matter how much starch you had in them.
I much preferred the Tropical Worsted version (gaberdine) , TW's for short. One could get by with just the shirt (military creases in it.) and trousers. There was also a nice blouse that you could buy if so inclined. Of course they were not issue but authorized to purchase. IMO they should adopt the TW uniform for summer/tropical wear.
Green Light
07-16-2010, 17:59
I had a set of TWs as a young NCO. They were cut better than the issue stuff - the neckline of the khakis was low and it looked strange.
You're right. Khakis looked good until you moved, then they were wrinkle machines. TWs kept their shape without starch. Plus, w/o starch, they were cooler.
I agree. Bring back the TWs. It's a great uniform and would be extremely popular with the troops.