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AngelsSix
04-01-2008, 23:42
Gents,
If this is in the wrong forum, I do apologise.
I wanted to know if there is a solution for poor circulation in the extremeties. I can't handle temps below 70 most days (usually have a sweatshirt on), and being outside in temps below 50 leaves my hands numb. If it is below 40, the tips of my fingers hurt so bad, I would think I had frostbite, even though I know that isn't possible in 30 min. My feet are cold no matter what temp it is.
The doctors I have seen don't seem to have an interest in investigating.
Thanks!!
Angle 6, I am going for a MRI for the same condition this friday. One of the vains in my leg is closed or closing. That's the deal. You may not have that condition but if the doctors you are seeing are disinterested, GET NEW DOCTORS ASAP. I'm told they will blow it out or do a bypass.
Angel 6,
I too have some of your problems, I am having a MRI next
thursday to help find the problem. My Dr. thinks I may have nerve damage in my neck that makes my fingers feel so cold. I wear gloves if the temp is below 65. Get some new doctors. ASAP
clapdoc sends.
Red Flag 1
04-06-2008, 20:38
if it worth saying, it will be quoted.
AngelsSix
04-08-2008, 23:39
Thanks for your concern and replies. I am going to try and get an appointment with my civilian provider next week. I have been having some other problems lately, my blood pressure is low, and I keep getting lights flashing in my vision after I bend over.
Thanks!!
swatsurgeon
04-09-2008, 18:46
The difficulty lies in deciding which part of the circulatory system is out of wack....arterial, venous, lymphatic, or organ system that can be manifest by 'circulatory' issues: cardiac, hepatic, endocrine. Some connective tissue problems as mentioned can be related to circ problems...again the exact part needs to be defined.
Are pulses present, is there capillary refill and venous flow, are the nodes palpable. A vascular surgeon is not a bad way to start if the primary doc has no clue.
ss
Team Sergeant
04-09-2008, 18:54
The difficulty lies in deciding which part of the circulatory system is out of wack....arterial, venous, lymphatic, or organ system that can be manifest by 'circulatory' issues: cardiac, hepatic, endocrine. Some connective tissue problems as mentioned can be related to circ problems...again the exact part needs to be defined.
Are pulses present, is there capillary refill and venous flow, are the nodes palpable. A vascular surgeon is not a bad way to start if the primary doc has no clue.
ss
AngelsSix,
Read Swatsurgeons post and heed his advice.;)
Team Sergeant
AngelsSix
04-11-2008, 21:51
Yes, sir!! When we going to do some shooting?? You might need to head to Bragg for a conference or something!!:D
AngelsSix
04-29-2008, 19:42
Went to Clark clinic, apparently they didn't feel concerned enough to do anything. Guess I lived this long, I will just press on!!
Angle Six, I just returned from Columbia-Presbyterian Cornell Weil medical center here in NYC.
I have the exact same situation. Here is what my doctors did
1. Meet with my cardiologist
2. Meet with the head of vascular surgery
3. Complete body blood pressure test
4. Echo cardiogram
5. Nuclear Heart scan
6. Chemical stress test.
7. Will meet with vascular surgery Head who will speak with my cardiologist and the Doc that set all this in motion. I expect them to go into my left leg within the month of May to correct me to 100% full running ability. ( My goal 2miles in 15 mikes)
Get new DOCTORS. If you want the medical definitions I ask my doc to copy the T & P for you. You can present them to your doctors and tell them to run the same firkin test. There is no excuse for not being able to address this minor problem. Even if they have to cut you and do a bypass on your leg. This is the correct set of steps they should take to help you.
Forgot to add they did a full cat scan on both legs
Semper gumby
04-30-2008, 09:04
At the very least it IMHO it sounds like at least you need to get some vascular testing done. (segmental pressures, with waveforms and ABI, or arterial brachial index) They can also do some testing with and without cold stimulus to see if it is an arterial spasm due to cold conditions. That is the LEAST they could do for your symptoms...
I agree, not having your doctors do anything might be a really, really bad idea. You may need to look elsewhere...If you have any questions about the test(s) I mentioned above, PM me, and I'll give you the particulars. (I'm a RVT/ Vascular sonographer, and perform these tests...)
Respectfully,
SG
I wanted to know if there is a solution for poor circulation in the extremities.
VIAGRA:eek:
AngelsSix
05-01-2008, 21:42
He said VIAGRA, LMAO!!!:p
Doczilla
05-02-2008, 02:42
I concur with the recommendation for a vascular surgeon. There could be a number of issues here:
Poor flow/obstruction through the arterial system
- obstruction, such as cholesterol plaques in the arteries, which is treatable with statins like Lipitor or Zocor.
- vasospasm, where the arteries close down with various stimuli (like cold weather), which is treatable with vasodilators.
Poor flow/obstruction of venous system for a variety of reasons, treated with TED hose, PT, and possibly surgery.
Poor flow through the lymphatics, caused by lots of things.
I agree that a vascular surgeon would be able to tease these out and order appropriate testing.
'zilla
16 yrs ago a script was written for Lipitor to address my condition. At the time I was enroll in grad school, and the med immediately affected my ability to remember what I had just read, this went on for a few days and I stopped taking the Lipitor, telling my doctor not to prescribe that for me, telling him that I believed it causes memory loss.
Since then we have had the same discussion every 6/9months monitoring my heart and cardiovascular system. He argues for the drug and I argue it cause alizmers, which he states there is no proof or research to confirm that side effect, till now.
Lipitor thief of memory is a book written by Dr. Duane Graveline who was also an Astronaut who had high cholesterol and was put on Lipitor.
The most common Statin drugs for cholesterol lowering medication is Lipitor and Crestor. Dr. Graveline was told he had high cholesterol and shortly after Statin, Lipitor drug was started by doctors at Johnson Space Center he temporarily loses his short-term memory, so he stopped the Lipitor and after a couple of weeks his mind was clear again. At his yearly testing his doctor tells him his cholesterol level is still a bit high and urge him to get back on Statin, Lipitor at half the previous dose saying that his first 6-hour episode of TGA was only a coincidence. Two months later he again lost both short-term and retrograde memory and was finally diagnosed in a hospital ER as having transient global amnesia (TGA) for twelve hours where he was a thirteen-year-old high school student who knew his subjects, teachers and every kid in his class (according to his worried wife) but with no memory of his entire adult life, so he stopped the drug immediately.
After his recovery and after several years of research on statin drug side effects, he considered himself to be lucky to have had only TGA, for when it is over, you are back to normal. Not so for most of the other statin victims in his bulging repository with their persistent neuromuscular problems, short term memory loss and ALS and Parkinsonism-like reactions. He decided to put his story up on the internet and within hours thousands responded with people saying that the same thing happened to them.
What the cholesterol lowering medication does is it blocks the pathway in the liver that the liver uses to make cholesterol, but the same pathway that the liver uses to make cholesterol is used to make coenzyme Q10. Coenzyme Q10 is your heart protected enzyme. So anyone who goes on Statin drug has lost their heart protective enzyme on top of the side effects of statin drugs which are Dementia, Alzheimer’s, memory loss, muscle wasting and breast cancer because our sex hormone are made from cholesterol. There is No proof whatsoever that Cholesterol and saturated fat cause Heart Disease, but there are plenty of proof that Cholesterol Medication is linked to both Alzheimer and Dementia.
Very interesting (and quite disturbing) read for sure. I was placed on zocor and later crestor for years and had tendon issues from both (torn lower bicep tendon and incredible pain in left Achilles tendon). Current Doc finally said that I should never use statins again. He put me on an injectable (Repatha) a couple of years ago and I have not had any known side effects as of yet.
Has anyone heard or experienced any issues with Repatha?
Thanks.
I stopped all statins. I was given them all and some produced no positive results but lots of negative results like high cholesterol and sore muscles also huge bruises. They all went away when I stopped taking them. The one medication that works for me is a synthetic omega 3. There is also one medication they will not prescribe for me and that is that synthetic omega 3…
Roguish Lawyer
02-26-2024, 22:04
Statins have been great for my LDL. YMMV.
Badger52
02-27-2024, 05:21
The one medication that works for me is a synthetic omega 3. There is also one medication they will not prescribe for me and that is that synthetic omega 3…Sadly, I'm not shocked to hear of something like this.
:rolleyes:
RL, it may be good for your LDL, but cholesterol produces a chemical that supports Bain activity and may be linked the connectivity of synapsis in the brain.
Stains that lower LDL attack the liver function that produces cholesterol, lower cholesterol production and in the process the protective layer insulation the brain, which is Myelin, Myelin is produce by cholesterol and is destroyed by Stains.
After the covid scam, I have very little trust in Doctors as they just follow protocols that are dictated to them via Big Pharma. And they all get paid on the amount of scripts they write for a given drug.
Interesting topic. My wife's short term memory has become worse with each and every year, and she gets severe muscle cramps from time to time. She was under the opinion that the memory loss may have been due to a surgery on her heart valve, but I mentioned this topic to her last evening and got her attention.
She take 40mg of Atorvastatin (generic Lipitor) was curious if dosage amount might contribute this side effect.
Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
Interesting topic. My wife's short term memory has become worse with each and every year, and she gets severe muscle cramps from time to time. She was under the opinion that the memory loss may have been due to a surgery on her heart valve, but I mentioned this topic to her last evening and got her attention.
She take 40mg of Atorvastatin (generic Lipitor) was curious if dosage amount might contribute this side effect.
Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
Yes this is interesting, I have been taking 80mg of Atorvastatin for almost ten years now and in the past year have suffered from severe leg cramps on an almost daily basis. I see the term muscle pain does that equate to cramps? Paslode what type of cramping does your wife suffer from if I may ask?
Paslode. Average dose is 40mg of Atorvastatin (generic Lipitor) was curious if dosage amount might contribute this side effect.
The answer is yes
Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
I have not read any articles relating Atorvastatin to NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease
The bottom line is Atorvastatin which lower LDL impacts the production of Myelin, the chemical which protects the brain from dementia. But, more importantly, there are no studies the definitively state that high ch causes heart disease.
In my mind, if there is uncertainty in the benefit/results of a drug to remedy a known condition, and that remedy is prescribe on a hypothetical: that high ch causes heart disease, but can't be proven, then why ingest a substance with side effects that prove to possess life diminishing qualities?
P
In my mind, if there is uncertainty in the benefit/results of a drug to remedy a known condition, and that remedy is prescribe on a hypothetical: that high ch causes heart disease, but can't be proven, then why ingest a substance with side effects that prove to possess life diminishing qualities?
We grew up trusting our medical professionals and institutions without much reservation. However Big Gov, Big Insurance, Big Medical, Big Pharma and Big AG have seemingly worked hand in hand and taken advantage of that trust to haul in Big Money by keeping you sick or compromised.
CBtenar.
past year have suffered from severe leg cramps
If the cramps are in your calfs and the pain increases as you walk, there is a very high percentage outcome that those cramps are caused by a DVT.
Symptoms of DVT (deep vein thrombosis)
throbbing pain in 1 leg (rarely both legs), usually in the calf or thigh, when walking or standing up.
swelling in 1 leg (rarely both legs)
warm skin around the painful area.
red or darkened skin around the painful area – this may be harder to see on brown or black skin.
DVT (deep vein thrombosis) - NHS
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt/
CBtenar.
If the cramps are in your calfs and the pain increases as you walk, there is a very high percentage outcome that those cramps are caused by a DVT.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt/
Thanks for the info RE DVT, my cramps are generally in both upper hamstrings and strike at anytime.