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Just heard this on the radio, that as long as the person with the CCW does not drink he/she is GTG. Anyone have more info.
Sounds good to me.
Ret10Echo
02-14-2008, 07:36
Heads up....
This was passed in the Virginia Senate and is in committee in the House.
Not law
SB 476 Concealed handguns; prohibits person from carrying into a restaurant.
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Summary as passed Senate: (all summaries)
Concealed handguns; restaurants; penalty. Prohibits a person who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of a restaurant or club from consuming an alcoholic beverage while on the premises. A person who carries a concealed handgun onto the premises of a restaurant or club shall inform a designated employee of the restaurant or club of that fact. A person consumes alcohol in violation of the provisions of the bill is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor and a person who becomes intoxicated in violation of the provisions of the bill is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
Full text:
01/09/08 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/09/08 085926232
02/12/08 Senate: Printed as engrossed 085926232-E
Amendments:
Senate amendments
Status:
01/09/08 Senate: Prefiled and ordered printed; offered 01/09/08 085926232
01/09/08 Senate: Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
02/06/08 Senate: Reported from Courts of Justice (9-Y 4-N)
02/08/08 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed (40-Y 0-N)
02/11/08 Senate: Read second time
02/11/08 Senate: Passed by for the day
02/12/08 Senate: Read second time
02/12/08 Senate: Amendment by Senator McEachin withdrawn
02/12/08 Senate: Reading of amendment waived
02/12/08 Senate: Amendment by Senator Hanger agreed to
02/12/08 Senate: Engrossed by Senate as amended SB476E
02/12/08 Senate: Printed as engrossed 085926232-E
02/12/08 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed (39-Y 1-N)
02/12/08 Senate: Motion to rerefer to committee rejected (16-Y 23-N)
02/12/08 Senate: Passed Senate (24-Y 15-N)
02/12/08 Senate: Communicated to House
02/13/08 House: Placed on Calendar
02/13/08 House: Read first time
02/13/08 House: Referred to Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=081&typ=bil&val=sb476
In VA you can open carry in restaraunts. Not sure about CC. Here is a good site with a forum for people who excercise their rights.
http://opencarry.org
FXCOfire
02-15-2008, 11:36
Dub.. the VCDL (Viriginia Citizens Defense League) also has an email newsletter notifying the status of bills and events. We had an outstanding showing on Lobby Day to counter the anti-gun lie-in where they symbolized the VT massacre. Also.. support has been given on the local level
FXCOfire
VCDL always has good info and is willing to help.
Bear in mind this is restaurants and not bars. If I can find it I'll post the law, but I read in the CCW laws for the Commonwealth that this law is if the Restaurant that has a license to serve alcohol doesn't make anymore than 40% of it's sales in alcohol. Goofy law, but it is what it is. Big ???? is, how are you to know what the sales margin is in anygiven restaurant? You don't, so exercise caution.
I've done it many times in places in the Springfield, Alexandria and Woodbridge area. When I worked at one of the local ranges, we'd shut down and go have a dinner. If we carried, we didn't drink. If it was in the truck, we didn't drive and we didn't drink. Impared judgement and shooting someone regardless of circumstance will get you a 6x6 home in a hurry.
VA is an open carry state, but that is also not commonly known be LEO's. I lived in Lorton and open carried before my permit was finalized by the Commonwealth. I was making my way to the mailbox and a Local PD stopped me and asked me WTF did I think I was doing. I calmly kept my hands in the right place and explained the law. He called it in, and after about 10 tense minutes the desk SGT said I was GTG. He didn't know, and he'd been an officer for around 13 years.
Regardless of open carry, vehicles and open carry are finicky. Post offices, federal and state buildings are off limits, schools, churches and demonstrations are off limits regardless of CCW or open. I'd recommend looking up the state laws regularly (they change like underwear) and print and carry the laws with you.
Places that are frequent and commonly found establishments like Friday's, Outback, Chili's, etc.....will give you the boot. If you are "asked" to leave, then leave. Failure to comply is a misdemeanor alone without a pistol, with it is a potential weapons charge added on. You get a felony, kiss your 2nd amendment rights goodbye.
I'm not a licensed law professional so proceed with caution. Educate yourself and others before proceeding.
Now this is progress!
Where would I most likely take my family at night? A restaurant. Were can't I carry legally? A restaurant.
Glad that this is coming closer to getting fixed.
Ret10Echo
02-15-2008, 20:26
Now this is progress!
Where would I most likely take my family at night? A restaurant. Were can't I carry legally? A restaurant.
Glad that this is coming closer to getting fixed.
After the Cafeteria shootings in TX and the Restaurant in Fayetteville...
But from what I am seeing, what of the College campuses?
I don't take my family to college campuses so we're safe there...but how dumb is it that If I were to go and take some clases then I couldnt' carry there?!