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Shar
02-11-2008, 10:35
In honor of the ladies out there! This was sent to me this morning and I just about died because of the truthfulness. The only one I could have added to it was:
"How much do you get if he dies?" A lady at a makeup counter asked me this one when she found out I was there buying new makeup for his homecoming. You seriously can't make this crap up. I didn't write the parantheticals myself - but I could have because she took the words right out of my mouth - whoever she is!

Things NOT to say to a Military Spouse or Girlfriend!

1. "Aren't you afraid that he'll be killed?"
(This one ranks in at number one on the "duh" list. Of course we're afraid. We're terrified. The thought always lingers at the backs of our minds ---but thanks brilliant, you just brought it back to the front. Maybe next you can go ask someone with cancer if they're scared of dying.)

2. "I don't know how you manage. I don't think I could do it."
(This is intended to be a compliment. Though, its just a little annoying. Here's why: it's not like all of us military wives have been dreaming since childhood of the day we'd get to be anxious single moms who carry cell phones with us to the bathroom and in the shower. We're not made of some mysterious matter that makes us more capable, we just got asked to take on a challenging job. So we rose to the challenge and found the strength to make sacrifices.)

3. "At least he's not in Iraq ."
(This is the number one most annoying comment for those whose husbands are in Afghanistan. What do they think is happening in Afghanistan? An international game of golf? Guys are fighting and dying over there.)

4. "Do you think he'll get to come home for Christmas/anniversary/birthday/birth of a child/wedding/family reunion, etc?"
(Don't you watch the news? No! They don't get to come home for any of these things. Please don't ask again.)

5. "What are you going to do to keep yourself busy while he's gone?"
(Short answer: Try to keep my sanity. Maybe there's a military wife out there who gets bored when her husband leaves, but I have yet to meet her. For the rest of us, those with and without children, we find ourselves having to be two people. That keeps us plenty busy. We do get lonely, but we don't get bored.)

6. "How much longer does he have until he can get out?"
(This one is annoying to many of us whether our husbands are deployed or not. Many of our husbands aren't counting down the days until they "can" get out. Many of them keep signing back up again and again because they actually love what they do or they VOLUNTEER AGAIN and AGAIN to go back to Iraq b/c there is work that needs to be done.)

7. "This deployment shouldn't be so bad, now that you're used to it."
(Sure, we do learn coping skills and its true the more deployments you've gone through, the easier dealing with it becomes. And we figure out ways to make life go smoother while the guys are gone. But it never gets "easy" and the bullets and bombs don't skip over our guys just because they've been there before. The worry never goes away.)

8. "My husband had to go to Europe for business once for three weeks. I totally know what you're going through."
(This one is similar to number two. Do not equate your husband's three week trip to London/Omaha/Tokyo/etc. with a 12-15 month or more deployment to a war zone. Aside from the obvious time difference, nobody shot at your husband or tried to blow him up with an I.E.D., your husband could call home pretty much any time he wanted to, he flew comfortably on a commercial plane, slept between crisp white sheets and ate well, paying for everything with an expense account. There is no comparison. We do not feel bonded to you in the slightest because of this comment and, if anything, we probably resent you a bit for it. Comparing a 12 month combat deployment to a few weeks business trip is like comparing a ford taurus with mercedes convertible.)

9. "Wow you must miss him?"
(This one also gets another big "duh". Of course we miss our men. There are some wives who do not and they're now divorced.)

10. "Where is he exactly? Where is that?"
(I don't expect non-military folks to be able to find Anbar Province on a map, but they should know by now that it's in Iraq. Likewise, know that Kabul and Kandahar are in Afghanistan. Know that Muqtada al Sadr is the insurgent leader of the Mahdi Army in Iraq and that Sadr City is his home area. Know that Iran is a major threat to our country and that it is located between Afghanistan and Iraq. Our country has been at war in Afghanistan for seven years and at war in Iraq for five years. These basic facts are not secrets, they're on the news every night and in the papers every day ---and on maps everywhere.)

11. "Well, he signed up for it, so it's his own fault whatever happens over there.
(Yes, ignorant, he did sign up. Each and every day he protects your right to make stupid comments like that. He didn't sign up and ask to be hit by anything, he signed up to protect his country. Oh, and by the way, he asked me to tell you that "You're welcome." He's still fighting for your freedom.)

12. "Don't you miss sex! I couldn't do it!"
(hmmm, no i don't miss sex. i'm a robot. Seriously...military spouses learn quickly that our relationships must be founded on something greater than sex. We learn to appreciate the important things, like simply hearing their voices, seeing their faces, being able to have dinner together every night. And the hard truth is, most relationships probably couldn't withstand 12 months of sex deprivation.)

13. "Well in my opinion....."
(Stop right there. Yo, I didn't ask for you your personal political opinions. Hey, I love a heated political debate, but not in the grocery store, not in Jamba Juice, not at Nordstrom, not in a bar when I'm out with my girls trying to forget the war, and CERTAINLY NOT AT WORK. We tell co-workers about deployments so when we have to spend lunch hours running off doing errands and taking care of the house, dog, and kids, they have an understanding. We do not tell co-workers and colleagues because we are giving an invitation to ramble about politics or because we so eagerly want to hear how much they hate the President, esp. while we're trying to heat up our lean cuisines in the crappy office microwaves.)

last but not least....

14. "OH, that's horrible...I'm so sorry!"
(He's doing his job and he's a badass. Don't be sorry. Be appreciative and please take a moment out of your comfortable American lives to realize that our soldiers fight the wars abroad so those wars stay abroad.)

If you want to say anything, say thank you. After all, we are sexually deprived for your freedom.

The Reaper
02-11-2008, 10:48
This just reiterates that the country is not at war, by and large, but the military is.

TR

Team Sergeant
02-11-2008, 10:50
I moved this, it deserves to be here and not in the comedy section.

TS

jbour13
02-11-2008, 11:35
This just reiterates that the country is not at war, by and large, the military is.

TR

A member of another Forum, who is also retired Army has been quoted:
"The US Army and USMC are at war. America is shopping at the mall!"

Again, I cannot reiterate that Fayetteville and surrounding areas are the friendliest and most pro-Soldier communities I have been exposed to in 10 years of service. I've crossed paths with some "gang-bangers" and thugs that give you a nod and say thanks. I lived in DC for 4 years, Hawaii for 3 1/2 and I rarely got a thank you. I don't do it for praise, but I'll be damned if it doesn't feel good.

I love my job and I am ever grateful that my wife is the homefront foundation. Neither of us have it harder than the other, but each of the parts of our lives are challenging in their unique ways. I sit in comfort, and safety 90% of the time while deployed. If called upon to execute a forward mission for support to the QP's that I work for, you can damn well depend on it. If it came to my wife being one of the spouses called upon to assist a grieving wife and her family, she is willing to sit with and help a person if she can. She keeps everything in order so I can focus on my tasks while deployed, and at home.

Great post Shar, informative and only scratches the surface of spousal hardships and is a testimate to the strength that the homefront challenge.

Ret10Echo
02-11-2008, 11:44
Great post,

I recall the look on my wife's face one time when a civilian friend lamented the 5-day business trip her husband HAD to go on...

Priceless.

Team Sergeant
02-11-2008, 12:00
Again, I cannot reiterate that Fayetteville and surrounding areas are the friendliest and most pro-Soldier communities I have been exposed to in 10 years of service.

Especially the car dealers, stereo salesmen and multi millionaire pawn shop owners.......;)

Yeah, I've lived in fayetteville, too long.........

TS

jbour13
02-11-2008, 12:19
Especially the car dealers, stereo salesmen and multi millionaire pawn shop owners.......;)

Yeah, I've lived in fayetteville, too long.........

TS

You forgot to mention the classy entrepreneurs on Murchison :D

Team Sergeant
02-11-2008, 12:23
You forgot to mention the classy entrepreneurs on Murchison :D

No comment.:rolleyes:

Guy
02-11-2008, 13:07
You forgot to mention the classy entrepreneurs on Murchison :DI thought they changed the name to Martin Luther King Blvd?

Stay safe.

The Reaper
02-11-2008, 13:25
I thought they changed the name to Martin Luther King Blvd?

Stay safe.

Funny, but negative, MLK is the old CBD Loop that cuts through the old Fayetteville Arsenal site.

TR

afchic
02-11-2008, 14:21
Shar - Thanks for the laugh. It is truly amazing to me how ignorant people can be. The only thing I would add, as an active duty member who is also a mom. The one question that I get that absolutely annoys the hell out of me is: "But you're a mom, don't you miss your kids and wish you were home with them?"

Well no shit sherlock, I wish I was home with them, but right now my priority in life is to ensure that they continue living in a free democratic society, and they are safe. And second thing, why is me being gone any different than my husband being gone? He misses his kids dearly too, but no one ever seems to ask him that question.

blustr18b
02-11-2008, 23:32
Here's a few from what HAS been said to a parent....I'm sure dennisw and the other parents could add a few more!!!

"How could you let him do that?!!! I would NEVER allow my son to do that."
(well, he's over 18 and he wanted to go serve his country in a time of war...and your kid is doing what???..

"Why would he do that, I mean, he had everything going for him...."
(well, that is a real conversation stopper...)

" just pretend he's off to college and don't worry about it"
(yeah, right)

"Well, I hope he's not all screwed up when he gets out, like those ones in the news"
(thanks for the kind thoughts-this one was from the high school principal)


"God, what do you do...don't you worry? How do you stand it???
(my standard reply is - I just drink)

Thanks Shar for a great post!

x SF med
02-12-2008, 09:02
Nice post Shar - Maybe you ought to send it to a local paper as a letter to the editor? Try and let a few of the dummies possibly learn something?

Razor
02-12-2008, 10:31
So asking "when are you due" is ok? :p

The Reaper
02-12-2008, 10:39
So asking "when are you due" is ok? :p

Only if you absolutely, positively KNOW she is pregnant.

That is one of the funniest mistakes I have ever seen made.:D

TR

Pete
02-12-2008, 10:43
.....MLK is the old CBD Loop that cuts through the old Fayetteville Arsenal site......

As that was just about the only road around here that didn't have a name.

Almost a revolt :D along 401 by-pass when they mentioned changing the name of Skibo Road - Pamalee Drive - Country Club Drive to MLK.

Lot of roads around Fayetteville like that. Yadkin - McPherson Curch - Owen, etc, etc. If you're new around here ya' need a good street map.

Razor
02-12-2008, 15:02
That is one of the funniest mistakes I have ever seen made.

Same here, but I was concurrently thanking God the 'victim' had asked before I had a chance.

AngelsSix
02-12-2008, 18:46
I consider myself lucky to be living in P'Hurst instead of the 'Nam (I hear they are calling it FayetteStan now), but it never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people really are when it comes to conflicts in other countries. How out of tune they are. Funny how you will never see these people without a cellphone or a Blackberry glued to their ear, though........:rolleyes:

The one comment that really kills me is how someone whom I am writing a traffic violation can say something like "you know, there are guys out there (fill in war of your chioce) dying so you can chase me down and write me a ticket".....that's when I politely inform them that I have been to the AOR as a reservist and my husband has made numerous trips......love the stuttering that comes after that while they TRY to apologize...:munchin

lrd
02-13-2008, 05:28
Great post, Shar.

I've always seemed to walk a fine line between wanting folks to just leave my family alone, and wanting them to understand what we are going through. We were fortunate to live in an area that was primarily military, so the community as a whole understood deployments and their affect on families.

Some of the questions I hear are simply rude, no matter who they are being directed at. I don't ask you about your sex life; why should I answer your questions about my sex life. It's tacky.

Jack Moroney (RIP)
02-13-2008, 06:45
It is not just on the civilian side of a civilian-military encounter. Some military wives can be some of the most nosey, intrusive, and nasty folk when they start digging for information about someone else's assignment. My wife, a sweet but hard core lass that has been my best friend since first grade, has had to fend off more crap from other wives when it came to classified or covered assignments and jobs. I think the worst of the lot are those that wear their husband's rank. But, in all fairness to many who fall in that category, much of the problem is the crap that is fed to them by their husbands that precipitates most of the problems.

Sionnach
02-13-2008, 11:22
Brilliant post.

AngelsSix
02-13-2008, 17:09
SION.....They give you guys cookies???!!! Where are my cookies, I didn't get any cookies...........:mad:

Bracholi
02-13-2008, 19:37
I lived with my grandparents most of my life... When I'd meet new people and they'd ask about my mother I'd always say "She's in the Army". I'd always get questions like "They take women?" or "Why would she do that?" Always made my eyes roll. Now when I mention my upcoming enlistment everyone tries to talk me out of it. They all say "What if you get deployed?!" My simple answer is, "Then I guess I'd be doing my job".

Great post by the way.

GracieLou
02-13-2008, 20:08
I think the worst of the lot are those that wear their husband's rank. But, in all fairness to many who fall in that category, much of the problem is the crap that is fed to them by their husbands that precipitates most of the problems.

I agree with this and was a victim of it...

One day, while on Active Duty at Camp Pendleton, I had to go to the Naval Hospital to get my script filled. At NHCP, Active Duty in uniform get head of line privledges no matter what rank the servicemember is. I had three people in front of me so I thought there would be no need to cut the line. Not to mention, there was this Old Timer right in front of me pushing around an oxygen machine...I would have felt like crap cutting this guy.

Anyway, the PO1 calls out to those of us in uniform to cut the line. Mr. Old Timer was more than willing to let me go ahead. I press forward...

...all of a sudden this civilian woman leaps in front of me and tries to block my access. She told me that she had been standing in line forever. I told her that I did not care -- I was here on my lunch hour and that the PO1 just called us up. She then told me she was a Col's wife -- I told her that I could care less -- I was a Cpl. She asked if I knew who her husband was and I said no that I don't hang with the Officer crowd and he wasn't my CO or in my CoC so it didn't matter much to me.

She told me that she was going to report me and I told her to be my guest. I also gave her my Unit, CO's info, and his phone number should she or her husband need to use it...I then told her that she should be ashamed of herself for acting like a total fool and her husband would probably be ashamed if he found out she was treating junior Marines this way (at least I hope that he would).

Anyhow, I got to cut her and then I promptly gave the Old Timer a cut in front of me...she was pissed:D:D!

sleepyhead4
02-14-2008, 07:07
Good Job! I'm sure her husband was disappointed in her action.

Here's a good document that's related to this thread...I think. I hope it's not a repost.



I agree with this and was a victim of it...

One day, while on Active Duty at Camp Pendleton, I had to go to the Naval Hospital to get my script filled. At NHCP, Active Duty in uniform get head of line privledges no matter what rank the servicemember is. I had three people in front of me so I thought there would be no need to cut the line. Not to mention, there was this Old Timer right in front of me pushing around an oxygen machine...I would have felt like crap cutting this guy.

Anyway, the PO1 calls out to those of us in uniform to cut the line. Mr. Old Timer was more than willing to let me go ahead. I press forward...

...all of a sudden this civilian woman leaps in front of me and tries to block my access. She told me that she had been standing in line forever. I told her that I did not care -- I was here on my lunch hour and that the PO1 just called us up. She then told me she was a Col's wife -- I told her that I could care less -- I was a Cpl. She asked if I knew who her husband was and I said no that I don't hang with the Officer crowd and he wasn't my CO or in my CoC so it didn't matter much to me.

She told me that she was going to report me and I told her to be my guest. I also gave her my Unit, CO's info, and his phone number should she or her husband need to use it...I then told her that she should be ashamed of herself for acting like a total fool and her husband would probably be ashamed if he found out she was treating junior Marines this way (at least I hope that he would).

Anyhow, I got to cut her and then I promptly gave the Old Timer a cut in front of me...she was pissed:D:D!

MoonAngel
02-14-2008, 07:26
While my husband was gone I had a family member actually tell me "I don't know how you do it! I just love my spouse too much to be with out them."

All I could say is "Well that is not how I love." They didn't get it. They still don't.

Dad
02-14-2008, 08:19
Sleepyhead4
Thank you for the link. It really does "keep it in perspective". I have downloaded it and saved it on my computer
dad

Cold Steel
02-14-2008, 09:38
My girlfriend at the time of my deployment, now my wife, had on several occasions been told "at least you're not married so you don't have to deal with that!"

Can anyone explain what "that" means?

Shar
02-15-2008, 15:39
I'm glad everyone enjoyed the post, and I completely agree it should be put of for general consumption. But, I didn't write it and I don't know who did - I'd guess the thoughts expressed are very universal in our community and I'm pretty sure that most wives can come up with a number of other lines that are just as egregious.

I just dropped my husband off at the airport for round 2 and I plan on sending this out to my family and friends since more than a few of them have said more than a few of these to me over the course of the last few years and I'd like to spare myself as many repeats as possible. My biggest problem with the friends and family is that I don't like walking around telling anyone and everyone that my husband is deployed, in fact, I don't tell people that I don't know well or that don't have a reason to know. My friends/family sometimes decide that it's cool to talk about or that it'll make me feel better or something and I'll walk into a trap. I hate it when I meet someone and they say "Ohh, you're the one who's husband is deployed." I'm sending out this list to everyone along with the list of rules to include NOT discussing mine or my husband's status.

But like others have said, the worst offenders often aren't the civilians. I've seen some serious crap go down among the wives in unit that is just unfortunate. But like all things in life, some people just can't play nice and always need to feel superior.

So as for me, I'm going to go and drown my sorrows in hot cocoa, some cookies and a good Jane Austen movie while I let the children destroy the house. :) Productivity is for the week after deployment begins.:D

Shar
04-27-2008, 16:43
I just found the original author of this list and wanted to make sure I gave credit where it was due.

The author write a blog for the Fayetteville Observer called "Operation Marriage" her name is Rebekah Sanderlin. It looks like the list I got in the email was tweaked a little, but this was clearly her work.

This is the link to the original article:
http://www.fayobserver.com/blog/permalink?bid=16&eid=3678

uboat509
04-28-2008, 19:11
After 9/11 I pulled shifts as NCOIC of the guard force for one of the gates several times. Of course we were at threatcon D at the time and the rules were very strict. I enforced the rules and as a result I got theatened so many times with "My husband / boss is CSM/LTC/COL/GEN so and so that considered having business cards made with my name, my 1SG's name and the company phone number. Apparently some the complaints did make it to the CG because he came to thank me for doing my job.

SFC W

andyggoodman
04-28-2008, 20:02
that was really good. i gotta show my that to my wife. and ya thats true, its the military that's at war, not the country. its sad that people can be so ignorant. but its better that theyre ignorant and safe than going through some of the horrors that others in some countries have to go through on a daily basis.

Razor
04-28-2008, 22:40
Mr. Goodman, please comply with the board rules you received when you agreed to participated in our forums. To wit, post an introductory thread in the proper place, and fill out your profile before making any other posts here. Thank you.

C46thVA
04-29-2008, 14:23
Great post Shar, thanks. While its true that America seems not to notice that our country is at War, I for one have not forgotten. I do what I can, care packages, attending homecomings etc. I keep an eye out in the local paper as they usually announce when a local NG unit returns from the sandbox. Brings tears to my eyes every damn time.

JW