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There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same.
Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death.
The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time.
No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight.
Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long.
When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.
Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working?
About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an alleged injustice the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor.
Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past
No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered.
Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry.
Really?
Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s.
Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees.
But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant.
Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality.
You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.
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Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change.
Does a Soulja Boy want an education?
HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community.
Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter.
Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it.
According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth.
The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.
The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place — uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep.
In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next.
Interesting article. The author has a big set and makes some good points. I imagine there will be a fair amount of backlash from the usual suspects.
Whitlock NEVER shies from his beliefs. RE: his comments on the Don Imus fiasco. You can read his articles at kansascity.com. He may be the most entertaining sports writer in the country
The Reaper
11-29-2007, 08:54
Okay, I am a white man with an opinion about race, so I understand that automatically makes me a racist to some.
Taylor was a thug, led a thug lifestyle, and died like a thug, likely at the hands of another thug. The real surprise here is that someone would actually say it publicly.
I seriously doubt that the killer looked like Joe Gibbs.
The elephant in the room nobody mentions is that over 50 percent of crime in the US is committed by blacks, 80 percent of crimes against blacks are committed by other blacks, and over 90 percent of all homicides against blacks are committed by other blacks.
You take a demographic with an extremely high number of kids without fathers in their lives (which pretty much equals poverty, as a single or no wage earner), put them in government housing, living in poverty, on welfare, in close contact with criminals and substance abusers; expose them to high crime rates, little or no educational involvement by the parent or guardian, denigrating academic success or achievement, low expectations, deification of sports and entertainment celebrities of dubious character, and a constant bombardment of music full of anti-establishment, racist, misogynistic, hate-speech, praising criminal activity and exhorting listeners to commit further criminal acts, and wrap that all up in a neat package, what do you expect the inevitable outcome to be? That anyone escapes to succeed in life is a miracle and a testament to man's ability ot overcome his environment.
This lifestyle is an affront to decent black Americans who are trying to make a good life for themselves and their families. This cycle will be hard to break, and impossible for anyone outside the community to influence. To hear a few voices like Bill Cosby, Alvin Toussaint, and Jason Whitlock speak out is quite refreshing, and reminds me of the courage that a small number of American patriots must have felt when they first stood up and decried the British occupation of this country, knowing that most of their fellow citizens opposed them.
When I was growing up on the farm, we had a family of black sharecroppers living in a tenant house. No indoor plumbing. Dirt poor. The couple was married and had six kids. The father and mother worked hard at other jobs before coming home to work the farm and raise their kids. They had high standards and high expectations for their kids. They asked for nothing from the government but an opportunity, and they took no charity. They saved their money and eventually bought a small house just up the road from the farm. Every child worked hard in school and at home, and they all went to college. None of them went to jail. They all found good jobs. They all got married before having kids. They all live in nice neighborhoods and raised their own kids properly. They are good people, good neighbors, and good friends. Is this a fairy tale these days?
Race baiters and extorters like Jesse and Al do little to better the lives of their flocks, and IMHO, are given far too much credibility by the MSM as spokepeople for their race, as if it were monolithic and they had been elected by huge majorities. One day, people are going to decide that they have had enough of their crap and speak out against them and their alleged representation of the black community, and turn on them. There is a growing black middle class in this country, and the race baiters and Democratic party need to wake up and realize that this is the only path with a future of freedom and choices. The gangster and thug lifestyles will continue to lead to an early grave and/or incarceration.
Just my opinion, as I see it, YMMV.
TR
brownapple
11-29-2007, 09:16
Great post, TR.
I didn't grow up on a farm. I grew up in Hell's Kitchen. Yet, I've seen exactly the same situations that TR describes. Both sides, the ones who are great people and the ones that have allowed themselves to be trapped into an existence that has no future.
If someone thinks that makes me a racist? The hell with them.
Ambush Master
11-29-2007, 17:18
Link to Jason Whitlock: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/381481.html
Every time I hear about the privileged kids who go to better schools like private schools I think about cars.
When I pick my daughter up from the Flora Macdonald Academy that cost me the equivalent of a 2008 Ford F250 truck payment every month. I notice most of the parents are driving older beat up vehicles like mine. Wont find to many Escalades or 30,000 SUV'S picking Kids up at this school.
Go to the Public Middle School in town and its like a freaking car show. Its every Race of people I see with their priorities upside down. Of course if she doesn't get a scholarship ill probably kick her Ass:D
And we all no darn well that if it were caucasions that had done this deed, our good friends Jessee and Al would be on the first plane smokin' That article has alot of truth to it, but of course it can be interpreted differently from the other side. It's gotta be Bushs' fault.....:rolleyes:
doc22584
11-30-2007, 15:55
The author of this article has alot of very good points. Im a young black man who went to private school, and grew up in what my black "friends" like to call a "white neighborhood". However the point about blaming rap music for the mindset of most black men is ridiculous. I am a fan of rap music but ive never sold drugs, robbed anyone or broken any kind of law. The bottom line is the black youth today are a product of there environment. I grew up with good parents and was taught right from wrong at a young age. The kids who are all screwed up are the ones who had no structure at home or came from a broken family. Im black, but ill be the first person to tell that the african american society as a whole needs to take a step back and take a serious look at themselves because we have no one to blame but ourselves.
rubberneck
11-30-2007, 15:59
However the point about blaming rap music for the mindset of most black men is ridiculous. I am a fan of rap music but ive never sold drugs, robbed anyone or broken any kind of law.
He never said that Rap music was the sole cause of black on black crime. He listed several factors including single parent households, poor education and a pop culture that glorifies violent behavior. In this case rap music is the single biggest contributor to inner city black pop culture. From where I am sitting nothing he said was off the mark.
doc22584
11-30-2007, 17:07
I know he didn't say that rap music was the sole cause, but its always blamed for any problems that arise with the black youth. I totally agree with all the points the author made except the one about rap music.
The Reaper
11-30-2007, 17:22
First, I fully understand that there are many kinds of rap.
At the same time, the recurrent theme that my family and I have to listen to while at the PX, gas station, parking lots, traffic lights, etc. seems to revolve around killing cops, doing drugs, abusing women, tossing about the F word, the N word, assorted derogatory terms for women, regarding females as merely an outlet for sex, ducking responsibility for ones children and actions, committing crimes, while reciting a racist, hate-filled screed blaming others for one's misfortune, etc.
Maybe someone from a home who has strong parental involvement can listen to that without being affected.
I have my doubts that somone from a broken home with few prospects and a probable life of misery ahead can.
TR
doc22584
11-30-2007, 18:52
First, I fully understand that there are many kinds of rap.
At the same time, the recurrent theme that my family and I have to listen to while at the PX, gas station, parking lots, traffic lights, etc. seems to revolve around killing cops, doing drugs, abusing women, tossing about the F word, the N word, assorted derogatory terms for women, regarding females as merely an outlet for sex, ducking responsibility for ones children and actions, committing crimes, while reciting a racist, hate-filled screed blaming others for one's misfortune, etc.
Maybe someone from a home who has strong parental involvement can listen to that without being affected.
I have my doubts that somone from a broken home with few prospects and a probable life of misery ahead can.
TR
Sir, I totally agree with you when it comes to the music being blasted at a totally ridiculous level in public places. It is disrespectful to other people and it I personally believe that its a ignorant thing to do. I know the negative message is there in the music and im not going to even attempt to try to defend that. I wish the music would put out a more positive message because then maybe the youth would get that guns, violence and all that other obsurd stuff is not the way to go.
rubberneck
11-30-2007, 19:10
I know he negative message is there in the music and im not going to even attempt to try to defend that. I wish the music would put out a more positive message because then maybe the youth would get that guns, violence and all that other obsurd stuff is not the way to go.
Now I am confused. Just a few posts above you were upset about Whitlock blaming rap music, in part, for contributing to black on black violence. Now you seem to admit that the music has a really poor message that does have an impact. Which is it?
On the bright side, rapper Lil Romeo, son of rapper Master P, signed a letter of intent this week to play basketball for USC. He is one of the top 15 ranked HS guards in the nation. His comment? "It is important for kids to realize education is more important than money." Sounds like Master P raised a good kid.
Undisputed4
12-01-2007, 01:10
ESPN just said they have the shooter in custody. They have 4 people in custody and 2 have confessed. They werent expecting Taylor to be there.
Whitlock always writes about race. If you go to Deadspin.com and look him up, you will see he isnt afraid to speak his mind.
BMT (RIP)
12-01-2007, 08:37
Anyone surprised at who got arrested?? :D
BMT
They didn't mean it?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3135855
They went to a home to rob the place. Thought it was empty but took a gun. Why do you need a gun if the home is vacant? If you take a gun it is because somebody might be home. If somebody is home what are you going to do with a gun? Why, to shoot them of course.
They didn't mean it?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3135855
They went to a home to rob the place. Thought it was empty but took a gun. Why do you need a gun if the home is vacant? If you take a gun it is because somebody might be home. If somebody is home what are you going to do with a gun? Why, to shoot them of course.
Sounds to me like they're "confessing to a lesser crime".
The Reaper
12-01-2007, 09:36
The article says that at least two of them worked for Taylor or had connections to him, and had been invited into his house before.
Nice gratitude.:rolleyes:
I agree, why bring a gun to rob an unoccupied house?
TR
The article says that at least two of them worked for Taylor or had connections to him, and had been invited into his house before.
Nice gratitude.:rolleyes:
I agree, why bring a gun to rob an unoccupied house?
TR
For many thugs, putting on a gun is as routine as putting on pants.... don't leave home without one.
His comment? "It is important for kids to realize education is more important than money." Sounds like Master P raised a good kid.
Good to hear, but I wonder what his major (and GPA) will be in the end?
Undisputed4
12-02-2007, 13:28
Sean Taylor didnt come from the "hood". He went to an upscale private school. His dad was also the police chief of his town. Kind of interesting
Sean Taylor didnt come from the "hood". He went to an upscale private school. His dad was also the police chief of his town. Kind of interesting
You don't have to be from the hood to act like it.
The Reaper
12-02-2007, 14:18
Sean Taylor didnt come from the "hood".
Who said that he did?
TR
Eagle5US
12-02-2007, 14:22
Sean Taylor didnt come from the "hood". He went to an upscale private school. His dad was also the police chief of his town. Kind of interesting
IMHO the only interesting thing was his blatant disrespect for his father and their obvious attempts to protect him from the "associations of his past" which Taylor chose but "was unable to escape".
Being "respectable" just wasn't good enough, gotta play the thug to be cool:rolleyes:
I shouldn't even say it is interesting....it is, in fact, shameful...
Eagle
Undisputed4
12-02-2007, 19:53
Who said that he did?
TR
Basically every major media outlet in the country
rubberneck
12-02-2007, 20:12
Just because his father was the Chief of Police and he went to private schools doesn't change the fact that he grew up in a rough area and associated with a bunch of thugs. Florida City is a high crime area. He clearly ran in those circles during his formative years even if he had every reason not to.
In my experience, the meaning and significance of a hip-hop single is best understood within the context of the entire album. (MOO, the influence of Marvin Gaye's seminal What's Going On [1971] cannot be overstated.)
Verily, there's a lot of A&R driven dreck on the radio and television. Not everyone who claims to love hip-hop understands hip-hop. But if one sits, listens and listens some more, reads the liner notes, and contemplates the use of samples, and the sensibilities of the production more generally, one can find that there's a lot more going on than the celebration of materialism, hedonism, crass misogyny, racism, criminality, and nihilism.
In addition to these themes, one can also find robust (if not always coherent) discussions of domestic and international politics, social responsibility, the formation of male identity, and moving--if not sympathetic--autobiographies. But most of all, one can also hear profound expressions of alienation from mainstream American society, and the sense of aloneness, despair, and bitterness this alienation can produce.
Does hip hop cause anti-social behavior and criminal activity anymore than, say, prime time television programming on Fox? FWIW, I agree with Tracy Morrow (Ice-T) that people make their choices based upon the circumstances of their everyday lives than from what they hear on the radio or see on television.
My $0.02.
Sigaba,
Would you consider Johnny Rebel, David Allen Coe, Skrewdriver or Bound for Glory in the same light as Hip Hop?
Sigaba,
Would you consider Johnny Rebel, David Allen Coe, Skrewdriver or Bound for Glory in the same light as Hip Hop?I will address your question after you do me the courtesy of answering the question I posed to you here <<LINK (http://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=412217&postcount=15)>>.:)
Fair enough.
I don't listen to either genre of this crap...what I am referring to is hate filled lyrics, social and political angst, glorification of violence, killing people, etc.
Sigaba,
Would you consider Johnny Rebel, David Allen Coe, Skrewdriver or Bound for Glory in the same light as Hip Hop?Generally, I do not discuss genres of music about which I don't know. But since you asked, the answer to your question is "no."
There are four basic methods of artistic expression in hip hop. The musicians you referenced appear not to have expertise in any of those four modes.
Fair enough.
I don't listen to either genre of this crap...what I am referring to is hate filled lyrics, social and political angst, glorification of violence, killing people, etc.Am I understanding you correctly? You claim not to have any in depth knowledge of topic A or topic B, but you have opinions of both.:confused:
The Reaper
09-08-2011, 17:43
Am I understanding you correctly? You claim not to have any in depth knowledge of topic A or topic B, but you have opinions of both.:confused:
I find that everyone seems to be exposed to hip hop within a hundred meters of most stop lights, car washes, or gas stations. You don't have to study it. In fact, you can hardly avoid hearing it.
The people who listen to it seem to think that everyone enjoys hearing misogynist, hate-filled, violent lyrics, including women and children in the vicinity. That is where my kids first heard the "N-Word" and "MF." Hey! Maybe Coe was an early rapper?
If I was an evil bastard, and wanted to raise my children to be drug addled haters, sperm donors, abusers, and racists, that is just what I would make them listen to.
The broadcasters do seem to be easily offended when you ask them to turn it down. Especially if you are white.
I think if I played truckstop tapes of David Allen Coe at stoplights at volume setting 11, I would certainly be told bluntly to turn it off, and probably be threatened or accosted.
TR
Generally, I do not discuss genres of music about which I don't know. But since you asked, the answer to your question is "no."
There are four basic methods of artistic expression in hip hop. The musicians you referenced appear not to have expertise in any of those four modes.
Am I understanding you correctly? You claim not to have any in depth knowledge of topic A or topic B, but you have opinions of both.:confused:
I have 2 ears which to hear with and it is difficult not to hear if the sounds are near, and I do not care for what I have heard. IN regards to hip-Hop you can hear the vile lyrics, the thumping and the bumping 'blocks' away...if they are within 50 feet you can hear the metal of the vehicle vibrate.
The only reason I asked, and I maybe wrong, but it seemed to me that you were romanticizing the intrusive and abusive Hip-Hop culture in Post 29.
I don't listen to either genre of this crap...what I am referring to is hate filled lyrics, social and political angst, glorification of violence, killing people, etc.
Not a Clifford Joseph Trahan fan?
Richard :munchin
Sent the article to Congressman West and he agrees with the author...he also agrees, as we've had the conversation before, in the enabling of violent, demeaning rap/hip hop music as a cultural millstone.
The Reaper
09-08-2011, 21:11
Heres a twist to this rap music influence theory/discussion. I live in the North Georgia and on any given Saturday morning, afternoon OR LATE NIGHT; in any, high school or middle school yard and at any Racetrack or QT Gas Station. Look and Listen long enough and you will see confederate flags, dreadlocks, cowboy boots, big belt buckles, saggy pants that reveal underwear, gucci bags, and ratty back packs, F-150 pick-up trucks, SUV's with Primos and bone collector decals. AND YOU HEAR PLENTY of rap music. I could go on but why prolong the agony.
Whites kids make up eighty- five percent of the community I live in. Most of what I described is white kids, and yes there area few white kids who want to wear dreadlocks too. White and black kids both are listening to a lot or RAP MUSIC and HIP HOP. Jay-Z; Tupac; Biggie Smalls; Eminem; lil wayne, etc. etc. These kids who listn to this music in my town are mostly white, the point - white kids listen to HIP HOP and RAP music just as much if not more than black kids. And yes it has an influence, on both groups.
just my .02
:lifter:lifter:lifter
No argument there.
I don't think it is good for any kids, regardless of color.
Especially mine.
TR
Peregrino
09-08-2011, 21:31
I don't understand the hostile tone towards "ethnic" music. You guys need to broaden your viewpoint. I too once thought as you do - then I moved to the middle of nowhere. Now I appreciate the early warning provided by the mindless "thump thump" and earsplitting "hate filled" lyrics. Pull up in my yard with that crap playing and you'll get a laser through the driver's window. Try to get out of the car and it'll be followed with 30 rounds of whatever I happened to grab when the dogs started raising hell. And I don't care what color you are - as far as I care, the music is an indicator of mindset.
And no - it doesn't bother me in town either. They're not sneaking up on me while playing that trash, and even at above average volumes it's still competing with the noise of a diesel truck and classical music (gotta keep the blood pressure down somehow).:munchin
99meters
09-09-2011, 05:40
Pull up in my yard with that crap playing and you'll get a laser through the driver's window. Try to get out of the car and it'll be followed with 30 rounds of whatever I happened to grab when the dogs started raising hell. And I don't care what color you are - as far as I care, the music is an indicator of mindset.
I guess none of the younger guys in my department should stop by your home and ask for directions.
The Reaper
09-09-2011, 19:27
I guess none of the younger guys in my department should stop by your home and ask for directions.
Trust me, you would have to be REALLY lost to get to Peregrino's house.
In fact, the directions include the proverbial, "turn off the paved road" and further instructions as to how many miles to proceed. His is the last house, and I think he likes it that way.
And no low riders will make it through the potholes from hell. They look more like anti-tank ditches.:D
TR
Not a Clifford Joseph Trahan fan?
Richard :munchin
While I do enjoy and I do appreciate music of many types.......I must say no Mr. Trahan.
Entire post.Like reading and studying, hearing and listening are different activities.
DaveMatteson
09-14-2011, 10:48
Okay, I am a white man with an opinion about race, so I understand that automatically makes me a racist to some.
Taylor was a thug, led a thug lifestyle, and died like a thug, likely at the hands of another thug. The real surprise here is that someone would actually say it publicly.
I seriously doubt that the killer looked like Joe Gibbs.
TR
I chose to quote you TR because your comments are the closest to what I was going to explain.
At the end of the last school semester (April 2011) my boss invited the Gang Task Force to come to our school after someone had told the her that there were several "gang members" in our school. This, after a young man had been shot and killed in a school in Madison, Al.
During the presentation they showed photos of what gang signs look like. Of 15 pictures they showed to the kids 8 were of pro athletes throwing gang signs at other athletes for either fouling them or for being members of rival gangs. This is one reason why I have instilled into my children that athletes, actors, singers, and other "stars" are not role models or heroes.
During the presentation they showed photos of what gang signs look like. Of 15 pictures they showed to the kids 8 were of pro athletes throwing gang signs at other athletes for either fouling them or for being members of rival gangs. This is one reason why I have instilled into my children that athletes, actors, singers, and other "stars" are not role models or heroes.
Were any of the photos of Paul "The Truth" Pierce of the Celtics?
If so, did anyone point out that Boston starts with a "b"? Or that Boston has an incredibly fierce rivalry with the Hawks that dates back to the early 1980s? (And that the Celtics never ever forget such things.)
Or did they just run with the angle that since Pierce is from Inglewood he must be affiliated? (In which case, the next question would be, Does it make sense that any shot caller would tolerate such a public display by an athlete given the infighting among sets?)
Parenthetically, it is amazing to me that so much of a stink was made over the incident with Pierce while nothing was ever said about Serbian players throwing up their three fingered salutes during NBA contests, especially during the mid 1990s. But then, it isn't like ethnic rivalries among Europeans have ever caused any problems for the United States.)
Like reading and studying, hearing and listening are different activities.
They are different activities, and granted there is quite a difference. But on the other hand it only takes one of the two basic senses to know your near crap, and any one of the 5 basic senses can pretty much confirm it is crap. Combining any 2 of the basic senses can definitely confirm that it is indeed crap. From that point if you are so inclined you can investigate texture and what is contained in said form or pile. When finished with the Scatological studies some find it worthwhile to put a high buff shine on said turd and/or its morsels.
But in the end it is still just a turd.
I find Hip Hop in the same company as David Allen Coe, Piss Art and Fecal Art. You may be inclined to dissect and understand what is contained in these turds, but in this case I am going to stick to use my one sense of perception which tells me it is just crap.
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
DaveMatteson
09-15-2011, 11:43
Were any of the photos of Paul "The Truth" Pierce of the Celtics?
If so, did anyone point out that Boston starts with a "b"? Or that Boston has an incredibly fierce rivalry with the Hawks that dates back to the early 1980s? (And that the Celtics never ever forget such things.)
Or did they just run with the angle that since Pierce is from Inglewood he must be affiliated? (In which case, the next question would be, Does it make sense that any shot caller would tolerate such a public display by an athlete given the infighting among sets?)
Parenthetically, it is amazing to me that so much of a stink was made over the incident with Pierce while nothing was ever said about Serbian players throwing up their three fingered salutes during NBA contests, especially during the mid 1990s. But then, it isn't like ethnic rivalries among Europeans have ever caused any problems for the United States.)
To answer your question I had to actually use Google to see who the guy was that you pointed out. He was not any of the 8 or at least that I could recognize. Understand this, I do not watch pro sports, basketball or otherwise, because I hate whiney people who complain that their 15 million a year isn't enough.
To answer your question further, it was stated that the athletes that were caught flashing gang sign were fined or suspened or both.
BTW, I was unaware that Boston started with a "b". I always thought it started with a "B".
BTW, I was unaware that Boston started with a "b". I always thought it started with a "B".Bostonians talk and write funny. Not, like, um, you know, us, um, like Lakers fans? :p
Entire post.I’m gonna climb over that anger wall of yours one of these days and its going to be glorious.
Allen “Gator” Gamble, ASIN-B0045ODPLS
I’m gonna climb over that anger wall of yours one of these days and its going to be glorious.
Allen “Gator” Gamble, ASIN-B0045ODPLS
:D