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kgoerz
11-18-2007, 17:03
I un Banned myself from the Weapons area. Here are a couple more Cerakote Projects.
1. Scrub the Scopes with Hot Water and detergent.
2. Sand completely with a light grade Sand Paper. I used 220
3. Scrub it again with Hot Water and Detergent.
4. Bake at 250 Degrees for 20 Minutes.
5. Don't handle it with you bare hands after this. Because of the oil on your hands. Not just because it's hot.............
6. Spray on Cerakote using a Gravity Gun at 60 PSI.

Aim point in OD. Mil Dot Scope in Tungsten Grey.

The Reaper
11-18-2007, 17:26
Nice job, Keith.

We need to start doing some Crye pattern.:D

TR

Geez1234
11-18-2007, 17:53
Nice job, Keith.

We need to start doing some Crye pattern.:D

TR

I'm not sure if you frequent the site, but have you seen the thread on Ar15.com about that? A few guys there have had pretty good success when it comes to Multicam rifles

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=139&t=565579

kgoerz
11-18-2007, 18:40
I'm not sure if you frequent the site, but have you seen the thread on Ar15.com about that? A few guys there have had pretty good success when it comes to Multicam rifles

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=139&t=565579

Some of those guys are good.


TR, Thats my next step. Camo patterns. Once I use this batch up I will get the MC Colors also.

The Reaper
11-18-2007, 20:43
Some of those guys are good.


TR, Thats my next step. Camo patterns. Once I use this batch up I will get the MC Colors also.

Roger, if you need an assistant, let me know.

If you are free for lunch around the holiday schedule, give me a shout.

TR

vsvo
11-19-2007, 13:20
Looks great!

I've been itchin' to try some of that, since you mentioned that it is now available in smaller batches.

Bill Harsey
11-22-2007, 20:03
kgoerz,
Very nice looking work.
Lots of tight corners to get into on the sanding.
Your brave too. I'd be afraid of wrecking something.

kgoerz
11-23-2007, 17:03
Work is all in the prep. What do you know about Knives being coated? Info below.

People ask about the Baking. But the Army puts those things thru a lot worse. The Scope I just looked up how much heat it could take on line since it wasn't Military.

I have seen Knives advertised as having Cerakote. Is it the same stuff I am using? Or is there a type of Cerakote that requires it to be Baked into the Metal. NIC sells two types. The one I use and another Coating that requires Baking after application. They don't call it Cerakote thou. They just call it High Temp Coatings.
Just wondering if the Cerakote would hold up on a Knife. I have not had any problems with it chipping or wearing off. But a Knife would be used a little different then a Scope. I know Guys who coated their Mags and have had no problems. Here is their Web Site.
http://www.nicindustries.com/md_testimonials.php

When I win the Knife Raffle, ill Multi Cam it in Cerakote:munchin

Bill Harsey
11-23-2007, 20:04
Work is all in the prep. What do you know about Knives being coated? Info below.

People ask about the Baking. But the Army puts those things thru a lot worse. The Scope I just looked up how much heat it could take on line since it wasn't Military.

I have seen Knives advertised as having Cerakote. Is it the same stuff I am using? Or is there a type of Cerakote that requires it to be Baked into the Metal. NIC sells two types. The one I use and another Coating that requires Baking after application. They don't call it Cerakote thou. They just call it High Temp Coatings.
Just wondering if the Cerakote would hold up on a Knife. I have not had any problems with it chipping or wearing off. But a Knife would be used a little different then a Scope. I know Guys who coated their Mags and have had no problems. Here is their Web Site.
http://www.nicindustries.com/md_testimonials.php

When I win the Knife Raffle, ill Multi Cam it in Cerakote:munchin
To answer your first question, more than many but not as much as some.

My concern on the baking, and not questioning you, is that the thermal controls on some "baking" devices may not be as good as advertised. One of my digital thermometers cost 400 US bucks, the controllers cost more and for now I seem to have them working in sync. (TR, no jokes about "boy bands")


If you want to multi cam something, let's talk.

I have zero experience with the product you are using. This has my interest.

kgoerz
11-23-2007, 20:54
I hear you. The Aim Points are pretty tuff. Some one on here should know what the Army requires exactly. But I'm not throwing my M3 Ultra Scope in the Oven any time soon:eek:

abn_surfer
11-21-2008, 00:18
Keith Posted some good tips on Metal Prep before the coating, for the first time I read the instructions and read Keith's Post and it made all the difference in the world.

Thanks Keith

Rob_0811
11-26-2008, 10:18
Edited because I re-read the thread and got my question answered.


I might try that on my spare EoTech

JJ_BPK
11-26-2008, 12:20
4. Bake at 250 Degrees for 20 Minutes.


Keith

I know the temp is needed to cure the paint,,

But do you worry about cooking the soft parts inside the optic??

In the case of the aimpoint,, the wire insulation is thin,, also the rubber seals on the glass??

It does look real good,, I like..

kgoerz
11-26-2008, 18:00
Keith

I know the temp is needed to cure the paint,,

But do you worry about cooking the soft parts inside the optic??

In the case of the aimpoint,, the wire insulation is thin,, also the rubber seals on the glass??

It does look real good,, I like..

The Army puts them thru hotter Temperatures then that in their testing.

Claemore
11-26-2008, 19:42
Work is all in the prep. What do you know about Knives being coated? Info below.

People ask about the Baking. But the Army puts those things thru a lot worse. The Scope I just looked up how much heat it could take on line since it wasn't Military.

I have seen Knives advertised as having Cerakote. Is it the same stuff I am using? Or is there a type of Cerakote that requires it to be Baked into the Metal. NIC sells two types. The one I use and another Coating that requires Baking after application. They don't call it Cerakote thou. They just call it High Temp Coatings.
Just wondering if the Cerakote would hold up on a Knife. I have not had any problems with it chipping or wearing off. But a Knife would be used a little different then a Scope. I know Guys who coated their Mags and have had no problems. Here is their Web Site.
http://www.nicindustries.com/md_testimonials.php

When I win the Knife Raffle, ill Multi Cam it in Cerakote:munchin

If you don't mind me responding to your question on knives with Cerakote, the new Emerson I have has a Cerakoted blade. I had an earlier Commander a few years ago with Black T, and wasn't impressed with the coating, it started wearing immediately. I'm pretty rough with my knives. But the Cerakote is holding up very well. Right now, it's my favorite coating. I've cut dirty rope, and even cut through a pop can with it, and the scrapes buffed out. Hope I answered your question.

6.8SPC_DUMP
05-10-2009, 07:11
My apologies if you all know about it by now - but Cerakote (http://www.nicindustries.com/md_tech_sheets.php) comes in Air Cure as well. It's the C Series (not H Series)


The Cerakote C-Series Ambient-Cure
Ceramic Coatings are designed to protect both metal and non-metal substrates. Additionally, the C-Series Ambient-Cure Ceramic Coatings are formulated to withstand extreme temperatures (~1200°F) without discoloring. This makes the coating ideal for exhausts, pistons and other components for high temperature systems. C-Series Ambient- Cure Ceramic coatings maintain excellent adhesion even after repeated thermal cycling. These coatings provide superior protection against corrosive environments and thermal shock.
In addition to performance, the C-Series Ambient-Cure Ceramic products are designed for ease of application. Each product is VOC exempt and cures quickly at room temperature.

Cure Schedule (Ambient Temperature):
Tack free at 40 minutes
Dry after 24-hours
100% cure after 5 days
C-Series Ambient-Cure Ceramic Coatings are currently available in several metallic and nonmetallic finishes and different gloss levels. Visit www.nicindustries.com to view a complete color chart.

The stats below vary by color
5% Salt Spray (ASTM B117)
Pencil Hardness (ASTM D3363)
Scratch Hardness (ASTM D3363)
Adhesion Cross-Cut Tape (ASTM D3359)
Mandrel Bend (ASTM D522)
Impact (ASTM D2794)

Cerakote stealth looks awesome. Wonder if ceramic knives are the future for SF :munchin (wondering not asking)

st1650
05-22-2009, 08:13
For a Multicam pattern, wouldn't it be better using Duracoat? They have a nice package with include colours, patterns and DVDs (http://www.houtsenterprises.net/dur_multicolor.html). It's not a true Crye multicam pattern but it's one of the closest I've seen without having to go with waterprinting ( http://www.lakotacorp.com/multicam.aspx )

My local guy does Cerakoating and he wasn't sure he could get the correct colours in Cerakoat. This thread dates from 2007, maybe some of you have sucessfully done it in Cerakoat could help me with the colour charts ?

I'd like to have my new AR10T refinished this summer (including bipod, scope and PRS stock) and I'm still hesitating between doing it myself or have a pro do it.

Tacticalinterve
05-27-2009, 08:28
Men, I would not bake a scope. Use a product such as Duracoat or one of the non heat requirred to set finishes. I have dura coated abunch of scopes and it works well but frankly I have gone back to krylon. Works well and if I get tired of color I just wipe down with Laquer thinner and its new again.