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Pete
08-23-2007, 05:06
A little snack from the Militray section of the Fayetteville Observer

Roy Parker - always writes a good article

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=270296

Usually its the civilians that has problems with the military

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=270295

The military section also has three articles by/and for the ladies in the crowd.

nmap
08-27-2007, 21:31
From the second article: "Some researchers say a growing problem is the glow cast off by “big-box” chain stores and gas stations that intentionally overlight the premises all night, wasting electricity and blocking the view of the night sky."

We have a similar issue in San Antonio. Camp Bullis has long been an important training area - it also happens to be in the area that developers want to cover in houses and strip-malls. I regret to say that our local politicians aren't doing a good job of protecting military interests. This is particularly ironic because the city has long depended on civilian jobs at the various bases.

The light pollution is awful - it's impossible to see the Milky Way, and only a few stars are bright enough to remain visible. Not a good thing if we want to people to have experience with NV equipment.

longrange1947
08-28-2007, 10:58
In 1969 I was at Fort Devens with 10th SFG(A). We could do mortar and machine gun training on post without problems. As the developers came closer and closer Devens was restricted in training. I returned to Devens in 74 and found out that much of our training was severly restricted. By the time I left we had to go to the Camp on Cape Cod next to Otis AFB to do some of our training. Everyone around there said they would never close Fort Devens as it was the last Army post in the NE. I left Devens and they were talking closure at that time and again "no one would close Devens" Well it got so restirctive that they closed Devens.

Some of the politicaians may want to look at that situation.

Razor
08-28-2007, 17:57
LR, fast-forward a couple decades and you find 10th Group wanting to build a range on Ft Carson. The location given to them was along the eastern border of the range area, near I-25 and across the highway from a new development. As you can probably figure, the plans got out, and the community complained about the expected "noise" from explosions and gunfire. Rather than tell the community "tough luck for you", Ft Carson moved the range to an area deeper in the middle of the range complex, hoping to reduce the sound signature to the community. Just more of the same--no one is responsible for poor decisions (in this case, buying a house near an Active Army post and expecting there to be no loud noises day and night).