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RiotMaker
08-21-2007, 20:51
is so freaking hot!!!!!
I mean, the heat is uncalled for really.
I think yesterday topped 106..or so I was told.
And today was no better. I went to the range to qualify. And I ended up with blisters on my finger tips because the grip on my weapon got so hot. :boohoo
82ndtrooper
08-21-2007, 21:31
A pair of tactical gloves perhaps ? :boohoo
NousDefionsDoc
08-21-2007, 21:43
Five day forecast for Baghdad, Iraq
Tuesday
High: 43° C
Low: 26° C
Wednesday
High: 44° C
Low: 30° C
Thursday
High: 43° C
Low: 29° C
Friday
High: 44° C
Low: 30° C
Saturday
High: 45° C
Low: 31° C
45° C is 113F
Stop whining
45° C is 113F
Stop whining
Yeah, but I hear it's a dry heat.:D
In all seriousness, I prefer the 104 degree, low humidity forecasts of the southwest to the 99 degree, 90 percent humidity concoctions of the midwest. The air is so thick and hot that you can't breathe. It feels like a wet towel is wrapped around your head.
The Reaper
08-21-2007, 21:51
is so freaking hot!!!!!
I mean, the heat is uncalled for really.
I think yesterday topped 106..or so I was told.
And today was no better. I went to the range to qualify. And I ended up with blisters on my finger tips because the grip on my weapon got so hot. :boohoo
Two weeks ago, it broke 107 for three days in a row in NC while guys were out at Robin Sage living in the woods. The other days in the high 90s were a nice break.
Are you griping about a couple of hours on the range?:boohoo indeed.
TR
82ndtrooper
08-21-2007, 22:03
Per your profile, you are the same guy that said he "Likes to watch gay porn" ??? :munchin
The Reaper
08-21-2007, 22:11
Per your profile, you are the same guy that said he "Likes to watch gay porn" ??? :munchin
The policy is "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".
Unless he is starring in it.
TR
82ndtrooper
08-21-2007, 22:18
The policy is "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".
Unless he is starring in it.
TR
He told.
I've found that time over "yonder" has made me less inclined to complain about things. Particularly heat, cold, food, showers, any running water, etc...
Also I've found that time overseas has made me less inclined to tolerate other people complaining.... :D
incommin
08-22-2007, 05:24
As I have said many times over the past 38 years, " If you don't have green tracers zipping past your ears or RPG and mortar rounds pounding the terrain around you, life is good!"
Jim
Incomin,
I wonder how he would feel if he was humping in the central highlands. I totally agree that if you do not have green tracers coming at you "LIFE IS GREAT."
Incomin,
I wonder how he would feel if he was humping in the central highlands. I totally agree that if you do not have green tracers coming at you "LIFE IS GREAT."
They don't have to be green, they can be any color as long as they're not coming at you.
I was referring to the tracers that the NVA primarily used. Agreed, life is great when no one is shooting at you and you have enough to eat, a shower and a dry place to sleep.
is so freaking hot!!!!!
I mean, the heat is uncalled for really.
I think yesterday topped 106..or so I was told.
And today was no better. I went to the range to qualify. And I ended up with blisters on my finger tips because the grip on my weapon got so hot. :boohoo
Son, I worry about you. It was 104 yesterday and just another work day for me. I sat out in the flats 20 miles north of you on 17 day survival FTXs - August no less - back when I was in. Our Carping was about the CoC not the weather.
Is that post really how you want us regulars to remember you?
Have you ever heard the phrase "Suck it up and drive on"?
incommin
08-22-2007, 11:01
Incomin,
I wonder how he would feel if he was humping in the central highlands. I totally agree that if you do not have green tracers coming at you "LIFE IS GREAT."
Ah, yes! The good old days. Humping ten days chow, water, basic load, PRC 25, spare batteries, a 61mm mortar round, freeking WP grenades, and two bladder canteens....... life still was good then.
Jim
Incommin,
The good ole days. Don't forget the medical/surgical kit.
RiotMaker
08-22-2007, 13:45
Son, I worry about you. It was 104 yesterday and just another work day for me. I sat out in the flats 20 miles north of you on 17 day survival FTXs - August no less - back when I was in. Our Carping was about the CoC not the weather.
Is that post really how you want us regulars to remember you?
Have you ever heard the phrase "Suck it up and drive on"?
whoa......ok. I wasn't complaing or whining or bitching. I was just saying is all. I did drive on. I didn't fall out or let myself get dehydrated or bitched to any of my chain of command. I qualified and everything. I can and did deal with it. I was simply saying it was hot. Hell, I even had the icon of the smiley playing a little violin for myself.
Sometimes it seems like people can't say anything on this forum without getting judged and blasted on.
And I am sure, of course, that last statement will get me some shit as well....
The Reaper
08-22-2007, 13:55
whoa......ok. I wasn't complaing or whining or bitching. I was just saying is all. I did drive on. I didn't fall out or let myself get dehydrated or bitched to any of my chain of command. I qualified and everything. I can and did deal with it. I was simply saying it was hot. Hell, I even had the icon of the smiley playing a little violin for myself.
Sometimes it seems like people can't say anything on this forum without getting judged and blasted on.
And I am sure, of course, that last statement will get me some shit as well....
RM:
If you go to SFAS with that attitude, expect a quick trip home. There are a lot of people there who will evaluate you critically, judge you, and tell you things that you do not want to hear about yourself. Most instructors are quick to deal with people they perceive as snivelers.
A lot of young people seem to lack the ability to take honest feedback and use it to make themselves better.
If we seem harsh to you, think of it as tough love or being brutally honest. If that disturbs you, no one is forcing you to post or read here.
TR
NousDefionsDoc
08-22-2007, 19:10
If we seem harsh to you, think of it as tough love or being brutally honest. If that disturbs you, no one is forcing you to post or read here.
Not me, I'm just a judgmental asshole that likes to blast on snivelers.
Peregrino
08-22-2007, 21:24
Not me, I'm just a judgmental asshole that likes to blast on snivelers.
Gloryhound! Quit hogging the soapbox, there's plenty of room here for all of us. :p Peregrino
Not me, I'm just a judgmental asshole that likes to blast on snivelers.
Now that’s hilarious. I almost envy the gents who had the pleasure of working with you Doc.
Son, I worry about you. It was 104 yesterday and just another work day for me. I sat out in the flats 20 miles north of you on 17 day survival FTXs - August no less - back when I was in. Our Carping was about the CoC not the weather.
Is that post really how you want us regulars to remember you?
Have you ever heard the phrase "Suck it up and drive on"?
I was on a coulpla them with ya PETE, those were the good 'ol days...I think. If it sucked, then it was "good" training, LOL
The Reaper
08-23-2007, 07:26
Now that’s hilarious. I almost envy the gents who had the pleasure of working with you Doc.
Well, wrap your mind around NDD and I on the same team, along with froglegz and about nine other guys who were much nastier than we were.
Now THAT was a bad place to show any weakness or sensitivity.
TR
incommin
08-23-2007, 08:02
How did the Army manage to assemble so much brain and testosterone in one place?
Jim
Team Sergeant
08-23-2007, 10:14
Sometimes it seems like people can't say anything on this forum without getting judged and blasted on.
And I am sure, of course, that last statement will get me some shit as well....
Sure will sweetcheeks.
Act/post like an immature 10 year old and you can expect to be treated as such.
And if you think we're bad online just imagine what we're like in person.;)
You might want to lurk here (http://www.drphil.com/)instead.....
Guess you didn't read the rules:
Rule # Seven states:
7. Think before you post. Post something unintelligent and we’ll let you know. Post something unintelligent twice and you’ll be gone. We ask no quarter and none will be given.
Re-read that last sentence.
Think before you post again.
You now have my full attention.
Team Sergeant
NousDefionsDoc
08-23-2007, 12:15
How did the Army manage to assemble so much brain and testosterone in one place?
Jim
They called it 7th Group and gave it a mission. And they came.
Son, I worry about you. It was 104 yesterday and just another work day for me. I sat out in the flats 20 miles north of you on 17 day survival FTXs - August no less - back when I was in. Our Carping was about the CoC not the weather.
Is that post really how you want us regulars to remember you?
Have you ever heard the phrase "Suck it up and drive on"?
Hey PETE, i was probably on one or two of them withya. Those were the good 'ol days...or maybe not. It did suck...so, that must have been "good" training..LOL I remember those days well, gotta love Oro Grande!
incommin
08-23-2007, 13:23
They called it 7th Group and gave it a mission. And they came.
Ah, 7th Group..... my first home after training group......around 1967!
Jim
Glebo said it twice so he must have wanted a picture.
Desert survival north of El Paso. That's a big jack rabbit over the fire.
That's me in the middle.
Pete,
Was that Ore Grande you guys were at?
Stay safe.
Pete,
Was that Ore Grande you guys were at?
Stay safe.
The Battalion stayed at Oro Grande Range Camp when we were out there - like once a year.
This site was East of the highway and about N/E from the range camp. Still on the slope up from the center of the valley and about 2 or 3 miles from the small hills. We were located near a muddy cow pond full of - well, don't want to think of what - but is was where we got our drinking water from.
You seen those African nature pictures of the last croc in the mud hole? Take out the croc and that was our water source.
We got a number of jacks, a few snakes, a pack rat, a little bird of some kind with a lucky hit and that was about it for 17 days.
Most of the pictures from this time period were taken with a 110. They were cheep and small but didn't take all that great of pictures.
Team Sergeant
08-23-2007, 16:27
The Battalion stayed at Oro Grande Range Camp when we were out there - like once a year.
Club Med it isn't.
You should have seen Oro Grande National Forest.......;)
Such fond memories, not.
Club Med it isn't.
You should have seen Oro Grande National Forest.......;)
Such fond memories, not.
I wonder if the tree is still there:D
Pete
I wonder if the tree is still there:D
PeteUs younger guys used up the last of forest/trees to cook up those, big-A$$ jack-a-deers.:lifter
If Ore Grande still exists? They should nuke it!:D
Stay safe.
Team Sergeant
08-23-2007, 20:49
I wonder if the tree is still there:D
Pete
I don't know. ;)
You think the bar is still there?
TS
Monsoon65
08-23-2007, 21:55
is so freaking hot!!!!!
I mean, the heat is uncalled for really.
I think yesterday topped 106..or so I was told.
And today was no better. I went to the range to qualify. And I ended up with blisters on my finger tips because the grip on my weapon got so hot. :boohoo
When it gets really hot, I always like to think that I've been in hotter places, and it doesn't seem so bad.
106 isn't bad. At least it's stateside, so you can get a cold beer.
And no one is firing mortars at you.
An old NCO once told me, "Any day stateside is a good day."
I don't know. ;)
You think the bar is still there?
TSGeneral order #1 was instituted.:D
Stay safe.
General order #1 was instituted.:D
Stay safe.
All the A Teams had just come in from one of the long Survival FTXs and the Battalion CO held a formation. He called us every name under the sun and said because of our actions we were restricted to Oro Grande Range Camp when not in the field. Like the range camp was not?
After the formation we got the word. Some of the support people had been downtown the night before and gotten in a big bar fight. So shoutgun punishment to the whole battalion.
A week or so later our company was out in the flats doing company training and we had our company duece & 1/2. Maj M, who's wife gave him an extra belly button a few years later and SGM "Grape" were standing in the dark and both said "FTS" about the same time. Picked a couple of guys to watch the equipment and loaded the rest on the duece & 1/2. Drove into El Paso for a night of relaxation.
Our company liked going to "the field" after that and Bn never did catch on.
Sometimes the B Team can be your freind.
82ndtrooper
08-24-2007, 05:16
Since we're on the subject, anybody remember the Camo'd Budweiser trucks that would pop up on base at Bragg ??
We had a DIVARTY FTX during the summer and when we got back to the motor pool and cleaned up our equipment and turned in our weapons suddenly there was this BDU Camo'd Budweiser truck. Just open up the side panels and there were like 6 taps on both the port and starboard side. :cool:
I dont remember much after about ten of those cups. :munchin
That was the FTX that I recieved my Army Achievment Medal.
All the A Teams had just come in from one of the long Survival FTXs and the Battalion CO held a formation. He called us every name under the sun and said because of our actions we were restricted to Oro Grande Range Camp when not in the field. Like the range camp was not?
After the formation we got the word. Some of the support people had been downtown the night before and gotten in a big bar fight. So shoutgun punishment to the whole battalion.
A week or so later our company was out in the flats doing company training and we had our company duece & 1/2. Maj M, who's wife gave him an extra belly button a few years later and SGM "Grape" were standing in the dark and both said "FTS" about the same time. Picked a couple of guys to watch the equipment and loaded the rest on the duece & 1/2. Drove into El Paso for a night of relaxation.
Our company liked going to "the field" after that and Bn never did catch on.
Sometimes the B Team can be your freind.
Wow, how could you remember that?? After reading it I remembered it well. Guess I still have some of those brain cells still hangin' around. That pic brought back memories, I recognize, but can't remember the names of the other two guys. Was that the jack rabbit that Billy P went after with his survival knife attached to a yucca pland stick?? Wait, I think it was a cow he was after. SGM C had to order and restrain him not to, I believe from going after that cow What a sight.
I didn't think the first post took, so I posted again....dang 'puters, gotta be the machine...couldn't be me...
I can still almost feel the "sticky" taste of that water today, and them yummy yucca flowers!
...Wait, I think it was a cow he was after. ...
"The Cow" incident was a soldeir who shall remain nameless chasing the cow with his E tool. We, the SCUBA team, were passing the other team and moving into our survival area. We could see the cow tank and the team's camping spot.
"?" had a cow in his sights down by the cow pond. He would try and sneak up on the cow and the cow would wait until he was a few steps away and then jump and trot off about 20 meters or so. We were having a good time watching so sat down on our rucks. After about 30 minutes "?" just started screaming and waving the E tool and flat out running after the cow.
By this time were were rolling on the ground we were laughing so hard.
The cow had enough and trotted off to the mountains never to be seen again. "?" fell to the ground exaused by the excercise and we moved into our area still chuckling.
Disclaimer - No cows were hurt during our survival FTXs. All the cows quickly wised up, moved out of the area and up into the hills when we showed up. We had to remain fixed in place around our cow tanks so we could be checked up on every day or so by higher.
Any of you FOGs ever do "desert" training there while in 5th?
Stay safe.
Any of you FOGs ever do "desert" training there while in 5th?
Stay safe.
You mean like the time we set the mountain on fire in 82? Range Control was a little POed with us for a while.
We hit just about every post and base in the S/W. Mostly on foot, lots of survival, winter and summer. Even hit 29 Palms MCS a couple of times.
Pete
You mean like the time we set the mountain on fire in 82? Range Control was a little POed with us for a while.
We hit just about every post and base in the S/W. Mostly on foot, lots of survival, winter and summer. Even hit 29 Palms MCS a couple of times.
PeteI was the support guy that, drove the big green bus for six months, picking up ODAs all over the place.:D
Stay safe.
Never did any Military survival training in El Paso. Done my own desert training while living in El Paso, on the west side up on the Red Thunderbird. But, my greatest memory is that of Chic's Tacos.
Chico's Tacos founded on July 4, 1953 by boxing promoter Joe Mora, family friend, and a great place to get some cheap fast food. Chico's with its legendary rolled tacos, which are topped with cheese (and if you like it spicy, hot green Chile and a real man) swimming in a special tomato soup-like recipe. Hamburgers and red hot dogs on Hamburger bums too.
Next to the women with their spray on pants, Chico's is a great reason to get back to EP.
...(and if you like it spicy, hot green Chile and a real man)...on Hamburger bums too...
You sure this place wasn't in California? ;)
Nice one Sir.
Big fingers, no fast typing for me.