View Full Version : Cops ask for guns, get missile launcher
Kyobanim
08-18-2007, 06:12
I thought I'd heard everything . . .
Orlando emptied its bureau drawers and closets Friday of more than 300 unwanted guns -- and one surface-to-air missile launcher.
The shoulder-fired weapon showed about 6 p.m. when an Ocoee man drove to the Florida Citrus Bowl to trade the 4-foot-long launcher for size-3 Reebok sneakers for his daughter.
"I didn't know what to do with it, so I brought it here," explained the man, who said he found the missile in a shed he tore down last week. "I took it to three dumps to try to get rid of it, and they told me to get lost."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-guns1807aug18,0,354258.story?coll=orl_tab01_layout
The Reaper
08-18-2007, 09:14
Complete and utter bullshit.
If the police in Orlando are that stupid, I pity you.
The item in question is a TOW missile shipping and launch tube, which unless it still has a missile in it, is about $4 worth of scrap aluminum tubing.
More disinformation from the anti-gunners.:rolleyes:
TR
M1A Springfield to be torched.
Makes my eyes water and my blood boil.
Sad from so many angles.
Well hell, I'll go to Orlando and offer to take all those dangerous weapons off the police's hands for free; no need to pay to have them destroyed. :D
82ndtrooper
08-18-2007, 14:51
Successfull ? Hardly, in my opinion.
Lets break it down a bit.
310 firearms were turned in for a gift certificate of $50. Only four weapons appeared to be "Illegal" since the article suggests that most or all firearms were pre 1968 prior to Federal law requiring serial numbers. Those four weapons had the serial number removed by hand methods.
The article also suggests that only these four could have been used in an actual crime. That's 1.3 % of the 310 firearms turned in including an empty piece of scrap metal that appears to be a surplus TOW carrier and tube. Hardly a success since those people that did turn in an old pre 1968 firearm most likely have a new Glock, or least an older generation Glock for their evil doings still stitting in their drawer or in the back of their trousers.
I suspect that those firearms turned in were inoperble weapons with little in the way of actual lethality since they probably are not and would not be reliable shooting firearms. Again, misleading the public to think that somehow the streets are safer from thugs with a firearm however with a new pair of shiny sneakers for trekking across your backyard. :munchin
As for the gentleman that turned a 1903 .32 pistol he's a moron ! If the pistol is worth $1400 then he isn't very bright or his priority for a cheap pair of sneakers speaks volumes to his charachter.
There's a number that they are not telling you in this article. That number is the estimated number of actual firearms in the hands of criminals that could not otherwise purchase a firearm from an FFL under the current NCIS check. If that number were known then we'd have some idea of rather the 310 turned is in fact of any real significance to the crime data.
82ndtrooper
08-18-2007, 14:55
M1A Springfield to be torched.
Makes my eyes water and my blood boil.
Sad from so many angles.
Very sad. I'd be willing to give them the equivelent of two of their gift certificates for that particular rifle.
Very sad. I'd be willing to give them the equivelent of two of their gift certificates for that particular rifle.
In LA they crush them with a Steam Roller. We took some weapons to be destroyed to the Range to shoot AT . To see how easy it is for weapons to cook off when hit. We were working with LAPD for a couple of weeks. They had guns worth thousands of dollars. We riddled a WWII Thomson, Luger's to name a couple.
Standard procedure for police. All confiscated weapons are destroyed. Also loaded weapons do blow up or cook off when hit. More then I thought they would. Shotguns more then Rifles and Pistols.
Why sneakers for Guns:munchin
Why sneakers for Guns:munchinIf you really want to see them turn in weapons....
AIR JORDANS! for every gun turned into the police department.....:munchin
Stay safe.
Standard procedure for police. All confiscated weapons are destroyed.
My dept used to auction off seized/confiscated weapons to the general public. Then, one day, one of the weapons that we had sold was used in a homicide. Dept gets it's ass sued off as a result. That ended the practice of selling weapons.
It sucked for officers as well, since it used to be officers (upon retirement after 25 or 30 years) got to go down and pick out one firearm to keep as a "retirement gift."
That ended too.
Everything gets melted down.
If you really want to see them turn in weapons....
AIR JORDANS! for every gun turned into the police department.....:munchin
Stay safe.
Or maybe they could use the Vick Shoe that got discontinued....
Or maybe they could use the Vick Shoe that got discontinued....How about some Cinco de Mayo stuff.....
Stay safe.
LongWire
08-18-2007, 17:29
Or maybe they could use the Vick Shoe that got discontinued....
No Vicks getting his own Missles!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html
82ndtrooper
08-18-2007, 17:34
My dept used to auction off seized/confiscated weapons to the general public. Then, one day, one of the weapons that we had sold was used in a homicide. Dept gets it's ass sued off as a result. That ended the practice of selling weapons.
It sucked for officers as well, since it used to be officers (upon retirement after 25 or 30 years) got to go down and pick out one firearm to keep as a "retirement gift."
That ended too.
Everything gets melted down.
Interesting since those weapons should have been sold/auctioned only with the appropriate NCIS check completed in order to take possession of the firearm. If the firearm sold is later used in a homicide, then I would suppose that the department has already demonstrated some degree of due diligence. This can later be used to determine if any negligent act was actually on the departments shoulders.
Two years ago a woman shot her husbund six times with a 9mm Luger Beretta here in my county of residence. In fact I grew up with the man that was pronounced dead at the scene. Robert Bosley was the owner of the Bosley Roofing and Chimney sweep business operating here in the Northern Kentucky area. He owned at the time of his death some 40+ firearms to include one full auto Sten. Even though the murder weapon was hidden by the wife until later it was mysteriously presented by her attorney who exercised his and her attorney client privilege. The county police detectives seized all of his firearms from another residence of his that served as his place of business. Why ? Since the murder weapon was the only firearm at the scene of the crime.
All of these firearms are now going to be sold at auction by the county Sherrifs office. I'm puzzled. Why the seizure of his firearms at another residence ? What right do the police have in confiscating them without returning them to his family after the investigation ? Possibly to pay for state back taxes ? or simply using this investigation to further their own pocket book by infringing the second amendment ?
As of now they are awaiting an auction date of his firearms.
Interesting since those weapons should have been sold/auctioned only with the appropriate NCIS check completed in order to take possession of the firearm.
Yeah, but you know how sue happy people can be........ "why are da po-leeeese putting guns on the street instead of getting them off?" Etc., etc.
And we always return weapons at the conclusion of an investigation. Always. Don't know how the Sheriff you are speaking of is getting around doing that unless they weren't legally owned or licensed...
My dept used to auction off seized/confiscated weapons to the general public. Then, one day, one of the weapons that we had sold was used in a homicide. Dept gets it's ass sued off as a result. That ended the practice of selling weapons.
It sucked for officers as well, since it used to be officers (upon retirement after 25 or 30 years) got to go down and pick out one firearm to keep as a "retirement gift."
That ended too.
Everything gets melted down.
I was referring to LAPD at the time. I believe the incident you mentioned above was the reason given that all of them had to be destroyed.
The Armorer who also controlled all these Weapons was Squared away. One of the guys had a 1911 he brought along. It was in pretty bad shape. The Cops said give it to the Armorer "he might be able to tweak it, just a little"
At the end of the day when we were locking our Guns back up. The Armorer gave it back. The only thing he recognized were the grips and the slide.
The Armorer who also controlled all these Weapons was Squared away. One of the guys had a 1911 he brought along. It was in pretty bad shape. The Cops said give it to the Armorer "he might be able to tweak it, just a little"
At the end of the day when we were locking our Guns back up. The Armorer gave it back. The only thing he recognized were the grips and the slide.
LOL. The armorer at our range is pretty jam up as well. I bought an old, beat up, Hi Power and brought it out to him one day for some "tweaking." He damned near turned it into a race gun.:D
He removed the mag safety, adjusted the trigger pull, did something to the feed ramp, bah, bah, bah........ that was a mean firearm after he got done with it.