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[ajax]

I leave for basic in 3 months and I started working out really hard a month ago. My AFPT score is 270 right now and I hope to be on the extended scale by the time I leave. I don't have a lot of problems with long runs. I can run four miles in 32 minutes and 6 miles in under 54 min. I plan on vast improvements on both before I leave. Six months ago I weighed 275 lbs, I was not lazy I needed to carry that weight because I played offensive tackle. When I got out of HS I knew I needed to lose a lot of weight. Now I am 6 ft 3 and I weigh about 225. At MEPS I had 15% body fat. I was talking to an SF guy the other day that told me my body fat didn't matter I would have a lot of trouble making it through Phases 1 and 2 carrying that much weight. My question is if I am not having any health problems and I can keep up physically do I really need to lose weigh or would it be beneficial to carry a few extra pounds into selection? Thanks alot.

[Fiercely Loyal]

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1569
I did not know exactly where to post this question. I have looked around for a few hours and have not found a place where it really fits. Four months ago I weighed 270 lbs and I could not run a mile. I was not undisciplined, I played offensive tackle and I needed to carry that weight. I decided I wanted to join SF as an 18X and now I am down to 225 lbs and I was 15% body fat at MEPS. I scored a 280 on the PT test today and can run 6 miles in roughly 54 minutes. I have not platued in any part of my PT routine yet and I am not having any problems at my current weight, but I met a couple SF guys who told me to trim down to 200 lbs as a max. I do not leave until Oct 19 and if my training keeps progressing the way it has I should be between 315-325 on the extended PT scale and I should be able to run 6 miles in under 48 minutes. My question is should I lose more weight or would it be beneficial to carry a little extra into selection as long as it is not giving me problems and I can keep up physically?

Looks like you’ve got the benefit of a mentor in your AO, and he has given you advice twice already.

[QRQ 30]

I am a big man and always have been, thus my signature. Whales swim far and fast and dive deep. As an instructor in UWO I weighed 220. I weighed 185 in training however and even that was a disadvantage. Just think of the simple things like the guy next to you having to pull up or push up or carry around 40 pounds less.

Lose the weight, but wisely - perhaps under the guidance of a trainer. You need to maintain your fitness/strength while losing.

Don't kid yourself into believing it doesn't matter.:lifter

[ajax]

FL,
I posted that a week or so ago in a really old thread and did not get a response. Yes I do have mentor here but I wanted to hear more than one opinion before I started a weight loss program while I'm in the middle of an intense workout program.

Thanks for the advice QRQ30

[The Reaper]

FL,
I posted that a week or so ago in a really old thread and did not get a response. Yes I do have mentor here but I wanted to hear more than one opinion before I started a weight loss program while I'm in the middle of an intense workout program.

Thanks for the advice QRQ30

ajax:

Did you read the old thread? There is some good info there.

My SF buddy in the first phase was a tight end from Virginia Tech. He was probably your size, and he lost 25 pounds or so in the old Phase I, which included survival.

I don't see 75" and 225 being a problem, as long as it is in the right places, you can do all required PT with it (to include the APFT, pull-ups, rope climbs, obstacles, log drills, rucks, runs, and fast cross-country movement). Your run times are slow. Get a faster training buddy, like a linebacker or tight end and run with him.

If the weight compromises your ability to perform, then you need to trim it some more.

Make sure that you do not gain weight or lose strength/conditioning during Basic, AIT, and Airborne schools. Food is plentiful, conditioning is marginal, and you can let yourself go there to the point that you will not be in shape for SOPC.

Good luck.

TR

[NousDefionsDoc]

Go your 16 sandwich eatin' ass like that. If you make it, your new teammates will love you - every team needs a mule.

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

Losing weight to attend training makes about as much sense as losing weight to wrestle or lift in a lower weight class. I have done both and have not performed to my own standard. If you are performing at your best, screw the weight and drive on. If your weight is hampering you from doing your best then lose it. We want you to be able to perform as you are and not as something you are not nor will be after training. Regardless of how big you are now you are going to serve in the shadow of some FOG who might be half your size. You will come into you own, but do it on your own terms not some half-baked formula for "getting down to your fighting weight crap"! You are who you are, live with it and do your best. The only draw back I can see to your current weight is that if you get drunk and pass out. No one is going to want to carry your sorry butt back to the barracks. Being a tea-totaler myself I have had that priviledge from time to time, but that was okay because those whom I carried, carried their "weight" and more when it was important to do so.

[JCasp]

I was always really heavy for my height and size. After OSUT and/or PRC I was thin as a twig and was still 190, and I'm only 5'10". Not really sure why, at my most fit I usually sit around 210-215 and Im not "fat" or even chunky, I have no idea why I weigh so much. Anyway I can't obviously give you advice the QPs havent already, just saying Ive been there with the heavy shit. Truck on, builds character :)

[QRQ 30]

I was always really heavy for my height and size. After OSUT and/or PRC I was thin as a twig and was still 190, and I'm only 5'10". Not really sure why, at my most fit I usually sit around 210-215 and Im not "fat" or even chunky, I have no idea why I weigh so much. Anyway I can't obviously give you advice the QPs havent already, just saying Ive been there with the heavy shit. Truck on, builds character :)

Same here y'all. I was in during the reign of lean and mean. I never fit the profile. I overcame it through performance3. One of my jobs on the SCUBA committee was to swim circles around the "Hot Shots" (literally) to show them they weren't so hot.

My previous post still holds. Only you know if you are carrying extra baggage. From your BMI you aren't.

I took semi-annual class II diving physicals. I was always 20-30 pounds over the "ideal" weight. Once after all of the step tests, stress tests, EKG etc. the doctor announced that I was in perfect shape but think how much better I may feel if I lost 20 pounds.

My biggest problem was when I left the service and became more or less sedentary. My present weight is classified :eek: . Going from extreme physical activity to very little requires a great adjustment in the diet.

[highspeedmdd]

I am in total agreement with the "come as you are" replies.

But something to think about. I never did any real road marching before I started AIMC. Before Basic I was about a 275 on the APFT which was about 75-78 push ups, about 88 sit ups and I really don't remember what the run time was but max was 11:56 or so, so that would have put me about 13 minutes. Nothing outstanding, but a decent start. But when I started road marching in AIMC I started packing on the weight. In my opinion it is an aerobic exercise combined with the qualities of weight lifting, sort of. So when it came time to go to Phase I and I required a tape test, I was very surprised! All I can say is maybe start road marching now to see if it has any impact on your body. If so, you might consider running in the evening just to make sure you do not put on too much muscle back on.

[ajax]

Thanks for all the good advice guys. This has been very helpful. I have been marching. One perk of being a big guy is rucking is a little easier. My ruck times were decent a couple months ago when I still couldn't make the army entry standards. lol. Thanks a lot guys.

[The Reaper]

Thanks for all the good advice guys. This has been very helpful. I have been marching. One perk of being a big guy is rucking is a little easier. My ruck times were decent a couple months ago when I still couldn't make the army entry standards. lol. Thanks a lot guys.

Wait till you get to do log PT.:D

TR

[ajax]

I start log PT in a couple weeks, does not sound like it is going to be much fun. This is way off topic but I can not post on the hall of shame. A guy I work with says he is a Navy SEAL. I doubted it so I asked how long he spent at Ft Benning and he told me he was never there. He said he was not airborne and I asked him how long it took to become a SEAL and he said spent 18 weeks in San Diego. I asked was his job on the SEAL team was and he said he was the entry man. None of this sounded right. So I got online and printed out the SEAL pipeline. When I asked him he said the pipeline has changed over the years. I don't feel right berating the guy for posing as something he has not earned because I have not earned anything either, but the thought of a guy getting away with something like that makes me sick. My dad is SF and I have witnessed him literally make grown men cry for posing as Special Ops. The guy also happens to work directly under him. I want to be 100% sure he is lying before I let my dad loose on him. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[The Reaper]

I start log PT in a couple weeks, does not sound like it is going to be much fun. This is way off topic but I can not post on the hall of shame. A guy I work with says he is a Navy SEAL. I doubted it so I asked how long he spent at Ft Benning and he told me he was never there. He said he was not airborne and I asked him how long it took to become a SEAL and he said spent 18 weeks in San Diego. I asked was his job on the SEAL team was and he said he was the entry man. None of this sounded right. So I got online and printed out the SEAL pipeline. When I asked him he said the pipeline has changed over the years. I don't feel right berating the guy for posing as something he has not earned because I have not earned anything either, but the thought of a guy getting away with something like that makes me sick. My dad is SF and I have witnessed him literally make grown men cry for posing as Special Ops. The guy also happens to work directly under him. I want to be 100% sure he is lying before I let my dad loose on him. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1. You do not really want to practice log PT. Just imagine yourself, along with a half dozen or so young men of normal height, and you will quickly see who is going to be suffering with a log.

2. Ask the "SEAL" what his BUDS Class Number was. Then contact the guys at AuthentiSEAL with his full name. I vote poser.

TR

[ajax]

Thanks a lot TR.