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jon1481
06-14-2007, 09:17
Tried a search..................what ever happened to the carved wooden SF soldier that was in Flint Kaserne? I remember making a donation to the fund.

Razor
06-14-2007, 22:53
There's a small (few feet tall, IIRC) wooden statue of an SF guy with a rope coil over his shoulder and rifle in hand in a display case in the 10th Group HQ bldg. Might that be the one?

jon1481
06-14-2007, 23:27
Could be, I thought it was taller than a few feet, rope over the shoulder,rifle,mountain rucksack.........that may be it.......thanks, jon

mike-munich
06-15-2007, 04:06
I´m not sure, but it could be that it was taken up to Panzer ? Maybe one of the QP´s in BB has details...

Ret10Echo
06-15-2007, 18:36
I am fairly certain the one you are describing is (or was) in the Bn HQ building at Panzer in BB......but I left there in 2001.

lksteve
06-15-2007, 20:41
there used to be a Wooden Indian at the HQ at Devens and another in the main entryway at Flint Kaserne...

jon1481
07-08-2007, 12:35
It was in the main entry way at Flint.

SFS0AVN
07-08-2007, 13:09
I don't recall the wood statue in Toelz. What year did they do that?
I have seen the one Razor is referring to at 10th SFG(A) HQ, Ft. Carson, it's pretty small.

lksteve
07-08-2007, 15:47
I don't recall the wood statue in Toelz. What year did they do that?1980-1983, there was a wooden indian at the entrance to the quad next to the Det Europe Commander's office...1977-1979, there was a wooden indian in the Group HQ at Devens...

SFS0AVN
07-08-2007, 16:09
1980-1983, there was a wooden indian at the entrance to the quad next to the Det Europe Commander's office...1977-1979, there was a wooden indian in the Group HQ at Devens...

That was after my time. It's probably in Stuttgart now.

jon1481
07-08-2007, 22:39
around 1968-1969 when I was at Tolz. It was at the main entrance inside. It was a SF soldier.

lksteve
07-08-2007, 22:46
It was a SF soldier.same statue...at both Devens and Toelz it was referred to as "the Wooden Indian"...

pegasus
07-08-2007, 23:02
Speaking of monuments, what happened to this one?

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18996&postcount=1

I've checked it periodically and it doesn't seem to be moving.

camp upshur
07-28-2007, 13:50
Is it somethining similar to this?

QRQ 30
07-28-2007, 14:29
I was in the 10th from 64 thru 67. I don't recall any statue. There was a miniature tank at the entrance to the 7th Army NCOA which was shined daily.

When I left I was gives a statuette but the M-16 was at sling arms. I have some pictures of Flint, Prinz Heinrich and the AO on my web site,

jon1481
01-12-2008, 21:07
camp upshur, that sure looks like it, although the pic is not very sharp

camp upshur
03-16-2008, 12:51
Perhaps...

Stras
03-18-2008, 06:35
Brothers,

The SF Wooden Indian moved to Stuttgart in 1991 with the 1st Bn, 10th SFG. It is displayed in the Bn HQ for all to see.

While Sebastian Demmel did not carve the original SF Wooden Indian, he has made "Dr type housecalls" to repair it as needed.

On a side note, The big rock from Flint Kaserne made the move as well... It's right next to the flag pole outside 1-10th. I wasn't stationed at Bad Tolz, but from what I understand from all who were there, it was on the parade field by the flag pole there.

Stras
03-18-2008, 06:38
The statue in Stuttgart stands over 7ft tall with the base. Base is about 18" tall, with a brass plaque listing the names of fallen 10th SFG(A) Europe members. I have pics of the plaque if anyone is interested.

skydoc60A5G
03-19-2008, 16:43
Perhaps...

Is this a current pic taken in Stuttgart or one previoulsy taken in BT at Flint? It sure looks like the one I saw on my first visit in 1973...see my post in the 10th SF thread. Could it be the one??

Thanks for jogging my memory...

mike-munich
04-08-2008, 07:25
On a side note, The big rock from Flint Kaserne made the move as well... It's right next to the flag pole outside 1-10th. I wasn't stationed at Bad Tolz, but from what I understand from all who were there, it was on the parade field by the flag pole there.

Looking through my old photos I found this. It's from the Desert Storm welcome home ceremony at Flint Kaserne. I have many more, but you see alot of faces on there, and since I don't know who of the guys is still on AD I won't post them for PERSEC reasons. If any of the QP's on here care to have them I'd be happy to email/send them to you.

Backwoods
09-19-2008, 01:34
It is sitting inside our HQ down the hall from the BN Commander. Its about 5 feet or so tall with the rope and moutaint ruck.

orko
10-24-2008, 20:33
It is sitting inside our HQ down the hall from the BN Commander. Its about 5 feet or so tall with the rope and moutaint ruck.

I dont beileve that is the same one jon is talking about, COL Vernon E. Greene, 10th SFGA Commander in 1969 designed a coin (the first SF challenge coin) in which was used as a fund raiser to help purchase a German Wood Carved Special Forces Trooper that was in it's glass home with special temp and humidity controls.

I don't remember seeing any statue with special temp and humidity controls.

however, I do remember the statue Stras is refering to, shining the brass plate was one of the CQ duties;)

A picture of the origional coin can be found by doing a google search of history of the challenge coin, but there is no reference as to where the origional statue ended up.

tolzerman
04-11-2009, 13:21
The "Wooden Indian" SF statue that was in the Bn HQ at Flint was moved to Panzer Kaserne in 1991 when we made the trail of tears move to Boeblingen. It is still in the BN HQ building though I believe it's in the Command Suite instead of the main Hallway. Not completely sure anymore as I left 1-10 in '03 for Carson. I know it went walkabout a couple of times from the end of the hallway to the Command Suite during my tenure there. The statue here at Group Main is not the same one from Tolz.

Sidekey
01-15-2010, 00:51
Perhaps...

Here's a partial view of the "Indian" circa Jan 80.

Team Sergeant
07-14-2010, 22:42
Sent to me today via email.... Thank you Bud. Team Sergeant


"Referring to the dialogue on your website regarding the wooden statue of a Special Forces member, here's what my Dad told me.

By way of background, my Dad was Colonel Selby F. ("Buster") Little, Jr., who was a Captain with the 10th Special Forces at the Flint Kaserne (along with Major General Michael Healy and LTG David E. Grange, Jr., father of Major General David L. Grange, who were also Captains at the time). Dad later commanded the 10th Special Forces Group as one of his last assignments before retiring in 1977.

Dad told me that the carved statue was the work of a German artist. There was one at Fort Devens and, from your members comments, there may have been a second at the Flint Kaserne. Dad also told me that the artist carved the statue from the likeness of LTC Martin R. Beck, who was killed in action in Vietnam in 1969.

So, the statue(s) was (were) probably commissioned between 1969 and 1972 (when I personally saw the one at Fort Devens).

Although he was a great patriot, the only information I can find regarding LTC Beck is on the attached website link http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/mrbeck.htm . He was survived by his wife Nancy and two sons (Martin and Mark).

I'm not a member of your site, so I can't post this. If you would be so kind as to do so, some of your other members may appreciate it."

Respectfully submitted,

Selby F. ("Bud") Little, III

mike-munich
07-15-2010, 02:14
TS, thank you very much for sharing Mr. Littles mail.

skydoc60A5G
07-15-2010, 07:03
I recently had the opportunity to spring a surprise coin check on a rather unsuspecting but well prepared (what else?) 10th Group Retired Officer, who immediately slapped his well worn coin on my desk...Sterling Silver...Has anyone else seen one of these?

mike-munich
07-15-2010, 07:09
Like this one? Received that from 1/10 in Bad Tölz in `87 or `88.

Abu Jack
07-15-2010, 09:03
Yep. I got one in Incirlik Turkey in 1994 if IRCC. I couldn't afford solid gold at the time.

Utah Bob
07-22-2010, 17:09
I recently had the opportunity to spring a surprise coin check on a rather unsuspecting but well prepared (what else?) 10th Group Retired Officer, who immediately slapped his well worn coin on my desk...Sterling Silver...Has anyone else seen one of these?

<-------- Like this'n?:D
One of the first run of coins in 69. Pretty beat up now. Never saw a sterling one though.


Lt. Col. Beck was CO of C company in Tolz and Devens. I was one of the honorary pallbearers at his funeral at Arlington. As I recall his CC chopper was reconning an LZ when a 155 wired shell in a tree went off.
He was a Marine pvt in Korea in 52. Got out and went to FSU and got an Army commission. Helluva guy. I've never seen the statue that looks like him.

MVP
07-23-2010, 14:09
The only Sterling coins I saw were being sold a Gp Hq (Devens) circa 1983. There was a guy down at a shopping center in Leominister that used to make real nice cut-outs of coins using a jewelers saw. He cut a Gp coin for me very cheaply but was pissed when he discovered it was not sterling like all the others he had done for Gp guys!!!
:p

CHRISTIN
08-15-2010, 11:45
Back in the late 70’s and the early 80’s we used to purchase our coins from the S-1 at HQS 10th SFG(A), Fort Devens. The “Standard Issue” was a rhodium plated brass coin available for five or six dollars. There was also a “Special Issue” sterling silver coin available for about forty dollars. To acquire one, you would fill out an order form and pay for the coin… and roughly thirty days later your shiny new sterling silver coin would arrive.

So, the answer is yes there was an official sterling silver challenge coin back then. It wasn’t widely advertised and perhaps not that popular as forty dollars cut into beer drinking money on Taco Wednesday at the Fort. But, I eventually did purchase one as it is a nice looking coin… and yes, it is special.

twistedsquid
06-18-2012, 13:53
i received this from dad today...says it was a parting gift when he left sf...id like to have it repaired (rifle tip broke off and missing)...id also like to clean it up but not sure if i should mess with the filth...er...patina...is there anyone in the sf community doing this type of work? dad went through in 1963 and i find the gear represented fascinating...thanks in advance for any help...please move this post if its in the wrong spot..."statuette" in the search box revealed this thread