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12B4S
03-04-2007, 00:38
In the past couple years, there has been some talk about the Chippewa boots we were issued while at Flint Kaserne. Sooooo. A few months ago, I grabbed a gal's camera, hauled the boots and stuff outside........ along with my outstanding photographic skills :rolleyes: and snapped a couple pictures. These have seen aaaaaaaaaaalot of miles in the mountains and below in all types of weather. However! I have tried to keep them in shape. It's only been 37 years or so. ;)

bost1751
03-04-2007, 08:57
Wow, now htere is a throwback. I was fortunate enough to have both the low and high cuts during my double digit years with the 10th. I still have a pair or 2 somewhere.

Pete
03-04-2007, 09:06
Ya' beat me to it, bost.

The first pair I was issed was the low tops. Along with Head 210s and NATO cable bindings I had tons of fun in the mountains.

Then again I liked growing up in northern Michigan so I liked getting that "high speed" military stuff issued to me.

Pete

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-04-2007, 13:40
I still have two pair from the 60s. They are indestructible and I wear them all the time outside around the property. Because I no longer am capable of getting them on without assistance, I have come up with the FOGCPOD(FOG Chippewa Pull on Device). I have attached a hook to my cane which allows me to slip the hook through the finger loop, pull the boots on, and head out back with the pups. Works great!

Razor
03-04-2007, 14:38
Do you also wear the wool shirt in the background of your pic, Sir? ;)

Buffalobob
03-04-2007, 15:07
I did not know they had high tops. All I remember is the low brown ones and the big Mickey Mouse boots. They would not let me have any Chippewas, so I had to clump around in the Mickey Mouses. The only time I ever wore them was on Saturdays when there was snow on the ground and the rifle team wanted to practice.

The Reaper
03-04-2007, 16:22
Do you also wear the wool shirt in the background of your pic, Sir? ;)

I noticed the same thing.

Shirt, Men's, Wool, M-1950

TR

longrange1947
03-04-2007, 18:52
And what is wrong with wearing my wool shirt, it is very warm! :p

My chips look just as worn out, I thought I was the only masochist that still kept those things. :D

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-04-2007, 19:16
Do you also wear the wool shirt in the background of your pic, Sir? ;)
Yep, here is the proof on the improvised demo range I was running for my company at Devens. Still have it, still fits, and it works great up here in the Great Northern Forest 9 months out of the year. Never was a slave to fashion.:D

longrange1947
03-04-2007, 19:24
Oh, and those buttons are stetched like that because of all of the undergarments. :munchin






:D :D


And NO, I will not show you my tensioned buttons! :p

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-04-2007, 19:40
Oh, and those buttons are stetched like that because of all of the undergarments. :munchin :

But of course:D You realize of course that I was running this for all my 12Bs (this was before the 18series came in) so one of them took the picture. IIRC it was SFC Garner so I am sure he had probably not focused the frame correctly-no, huh?

longrange1947
03-04-2007, 20:16
Heck, I'll buy that one, as long as I can use it. :D

lksteve
03-04-2007, 20:29
IIRC it was SFC Garner so I am sure he had probably not focused the frame correctly-no, huh?hmmm...never saw Charlie with a camera...but he could stretch a shirt, too...

x SF med
03-05-2007, 08:41
I will have to snap a pic of my Chips - only from the 80's - didn't get the diver toes.... Had to use mine last week, it got very cold and snowy here.

bost1751
03-05-2007, 19:36
Buy you a pair of Danners X SF MED. Your old chips are still wet from your days at Devens.

x SF med
03-06-2007, 09:57
Buy you a pair of Danners X SF MED. Your old chips are still wet from your days at Devens.

No, they dried out a couple of years ago, luckily I lived in TX for a number of years, it got warm enough to get the moisture out of the felt insoles.:D

I do have a pair of HiTec Magnums for 'normal' temps, and a pair of Bass Hikers that are a good 4 season boot (6" tops, waterproof, lightly insulated) and my old issued brown Gore-Tex, jungles, and leg boots.

bost1751
03-06-2007, 10:07
Oh no, not the old brown gortex with the square toe for the bindings. Now that would make a statement in today's world.

Pete
03-06-2007, 10:10
So nobody has any kind words to say for their Herman Survivors?

American made in Maine?

I still have that first pair, from before all the high speed, low drag boot makers came out with the good stuff. In just down right nasty cold weather they worked great.

Still wear mine around Fayetteville when it snows.

Pete

bost1751
03-06-2007, 10:51
Herman's were great. It weems they were the Cadilacs back in our era. Later I grew to like Danner's pretty good. I still use them when I go hunting for something worth hunting for.

x SF med
03-06-2007, 12:04
Oh no, not the old brown gortex with the square toe for the bindings. Now that would make a statement in today's world.

DB - make fun of my square toed brown goretex kinda sorta jungle boots with soles so hard they slip on damp sand, and I might be forced to take retribution! :mad: They are so ugly they are cool.:cool:


Herman Survivors? I wore them in HS (well, and in the field in SF) and you are making fun of my LSHD goretex boots - the hideousness will haunt my dreams forever!!!

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-06-2007, 13:48
make fun of my square toed brown goretex kinda sorta jungle boots with soles so hard they slip on damp sand,!

I won't make fun of them. I am sorta responsible for bringing them into the inventory for a short period of time. They gave me and one great big Ukranian speaking SGM a pair or two to wear around for a while to see if they were useable whilst folks were squirreling around looking for a new series of boots. We couldn't destroy them so they were brought in on a temporary basis. Still have two pair, still can't destroy them, and they work good up here in the winter and are fine most of the year except when it gets real hot-which happens about two or three hours in July:D

x SF med
03-06-2007, 15:04
I won't make fun of them. I am sorta responsible for bringing them into the inventory for a short period of time. They gave me and one great big Ukranian speaking SGM a pair or two to wear around for a while to see if they were useable whilst folks were squirreling around looking for a new series of boots. We couldn't destroy them so they were brought in on a temporary basis. Still have two pair, still can't destroy them, and they work good up here in the winter and are fine most of the year except when it gets real hot-which happens about two or three hours in July:D


COL Jack!! I have to blame you for those Natick inspired nightmares? (Yup Devens was great, got to be guinea pigs for a lot of cool stuff) Actually, until they get a little oil on them they're pretty good dry boots - the soles are a bit hard (mine are the gen 1 s from early 84) especially after they've gotten cold then warm a few times - but you are right - you can't kill 'em, so you have to keep 'em around until they die. Sorbithane insoles are great in them, especially for long patrols. I have 2 pr of boots to post now. Oh a final thought - they did not fit into any binding on any of the skis we tried, the toes would slip ourt or the cables would 'jump the track' on the heels.

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-06-2007, 15:16
COL Jack!! I have to blame you for those Natick inspired nightmares? (.

Actually you can blame Natick for screwing the pooch on those boots. What they got and what they actually released were two entirely different critters. Then Natick thinks that they have to support the entire force, we just wanted something for SF. It is also like the gortex project they took over-they deceided that we all did not need light weight thin skinned poly pro like the Norges we just needed the heavier weight stuff that was too hot for cross country movement. Also they decided that we did not need the light weight fold up and put away light rain suit-hell the heavier wt stuff was good for all occasions as far as they were concerned. I could go on, but then you all might get the feeling that I am upset with Natick which is just a sub-command of AMC which everyone thinks stands for Army Materiel Command but really means A Million Civilians who work there, protect their rice bowls, and will never, and I mean never, allow anyone outside of their fiefdom to have a better idea. I must stop, I am getting called for chow and am beginning to get fired up.

x SF med
03-06-2007, 15:45
COL Jack,
Were you involved in the 1986 "New Long Range Field Ration Test"? We wandered around the Burlington area for a month in November, listened to the vulcans at GE, and were also field testing some pretty powerful laptops, hmmm, was it really a rations test? Hmmmmmm...

Ah yes, Tac vests, Lowe packs, eco-tats, goretex ponchos, polypro, goretex rain gear --- Natick had some cool stuff, and all the S-4 pogues had it before the teams that didn't get on the tests.

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-06-2007, 20:08
COL Jack,
Were you involved in the 1986 "New Long Range Field Ration Test"? .

Nope, I was OCONUS 86-88

bost1751
03-07-2007, 00:25
I used to "sport" my brown, squared toed, gortex slabs around Devens for a while. I did get some interesting looks when up around the "regular" guys. I did it for kicks until the SGM convinced me it was not a good idea for a Tm SGT to be doing that. I gues the company or battalion had been threatened about sporting them around on post. They were some ugly critters. Yes I still have them too.

Aoresteen
03-12-2007, 19:30
I had to turn in my Chipps when I left Tölz. But I still have my brown boots. I always liked them and even in the summer, I didn't find them too hot. I just used lighter socks.

longrange1947
03-12-2007, 20:30
My brown goretex boots cracked really bad and I finally had to throw the things. Believe it or not we got issued them in SWC in 86. :D