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abc_123
03-01-2007, 20:49
Interesting Op Ed piece. I thought at first read that it was questioning why we do not celebrate our heros who distinguish themselves in battle. The real question it poses is not why don't we celebrate our heros, but rather what does that mean?


Wall Street Journal
March 1, 2007
Pg. 12

Wonder Land

The Real American Idol

By Daniel Henninger

Amid the mad jumble that makes the news in our time, the White House on Monday held a ceremony for a Medal of Honor recipient. His name is Bruce Crandall. Mr. Crandall is 74 now, and earned his medal as a major, flying a Huey helicopter in 1965 in the Vietnam War.

The Medal of Honor is conferred only for bravery in combat. It is a military medal, and it is still generally regarded as the highest public tribute this nation can bestow. It is also very rare.

Still, the Medal of Honor does not occupy the place in the nation's cultural life that it once did. This has much to do with the ambivalent place of the military in our angry politics.

In the House debate just ended on a "non-binding" resolution to thwart the sending of more troops to Iraq, its most noted element was the Democratic formulation to "support the troops" but oppose the war. We will hear more of this when the members of the Senate debate their own symbolic resolution.

In last November's congressional election, the Democrats picked several military veterans as candidates to mitigate the notion, a burden since Vietnam, that an endemic hostility toward things military runs through the party's veins. Those Democratic veterans won. Notwithstanding the bitter divide over Iraq, the presence of these veterans in Congress should be a good thing, if one thinks that the oft-publicized "divide" between the professional military and American civilians is not in this country's interest. It surely cannot be in the country's interest if over time more Americans come to regard the life of U.S. soldiers at war and in combat as an abstraction -- as say, mainly Oscar nominees or as newspaper photographs of scenes of utter loss at arms.

Two men have received the Medal of Honor for service in Iraq: Army Sgt. First Class Paul R. Smith, who died defending some 100 fellow soldiers, allowing their withdrawal; and Marine Cpl. Jason L. Dunham, who died after he dove atop a live grenade to protect his squad. (Cpl. Dunham's act was the subject of a 2004 Wall Street Journal story by reporter Michael M. Phillips and later a book, "The Gift of Valor.")

Bruce Crandall's Medal of Honor, at an emotional remove of 42 years, offers a chance to ponder just where the military stands now in the nation's life. The particulars of Lt. Col. Crandall's act of heroism, and what others said of it at the awarding of the medal on Monday, offers we civilians a chance to understand not merely the risks of combat but what animates those who embrace those risks.

Mr. Crandall, then a major, commanded a company with the 229th Assault Helicopter Battalion, carrying soldiers to a landing zone, called X-ray, in the la Drang Valley. An assault from the North Vietnamese army erupted, as described at the White House ceremony Monday. Three soldiers on Maj. Crandall's helicopter were killed. He kept it on the ground while four wounded were taken aboard. Back at base, he asked for a volunteer to return with him to X-ray. Capt. Ed Freeman came forward. Through smoke and bullets, they flew in and out 14 times, spent 14 hours in the air and used three helicopters. They evacuated 70 wounded. The battalion survived.

A Medal of Honor requires eyewitness accounts, and an officer there attested, "Maj. Crandall's actions were without question the most valorous I've observed of any helicopter pilot in Vietnam."

Gen. Peter Schoomaker, the Army chief of staff, spoke at the ceremony of what he called "the warrior ethos." Look at his words and consider whether they still stand today, or whether as a matter of the nation's broader ethos of commonly accepted beliefs, they are under challenge. Gen. Schoomaker said: "The words of the warrior ethos that we have today -- I will always place the mission first; I will never accept defeat; I will never quit; and I will never leave a fallen comrade -- were made real that day in the la Drang Valley."

At issue today is the question: Is that ethos worth it, worth the inevitable sacrifice? And not only in Iraq but in whatever may lie beyond Iraq?

The secretary of the Army, Francis Harvey, went on in this vein: "The courage and fortitude of America's soldiers in combat exemplified by these individuals is, without question, the highest level of human behavior. It demonstrates the basic goodness of mankind as well as the inherent kindness and patriotism of American soldiers."

An American soldier in combat demonstrates "the basic goodness of mankind"? And the highest level of human behavior? This was not thought to be true at the moment Maj. Crandall was flying those choppers in Vietnam. Nor is it now.

To embrace the thoughts of Gen. Schoomaker and of Secretary Harvey is to risk being accused of defending notions of American triumphalism and an overly strong martial spirit thought inappropriate to the realities of a multilateral world. This is a debate worth having. But we are not having it. We are hiding from it.

In a less doubtful culture, Maj. Crandall's magnificent medal would have been on every front page, if only a photograph. It was on no one's front page Tuesday. The New York Times, the culture's lodestar, had a photograph on its front page of President Bush addressing governors about an insurance plan. Maj. Crandall's Medal of Honor was on page 15, in a round-up, three lines from the bottom. Other big-city dailies also ran it in their news summaries; some -- the Washington Post, USA Today -- ran full accounts inside.

Most school children once knew the names of the nation's heroes in war -- Ethan Allen, John Paul Jones, Stephen Decatur, the Swamp Fox Francis Marion, Ulysses S. Grant, Clara Barton, Billy Mitchell, Alvin York, Lee Ann Hester. Lee Ann who? She's the first woman to win a Silver Star for direct combat with the enemy. Did it in a trench in Iraq. Her story should be in schools, but it won't be.

All nations celebrate personal icons, and ours now tend to be doers of good. That's fine. But if we suppress the martial feats of a Bruce Crandall, we distance ourselves further from our military. And in time, we will change. At some risk.

Razor
03-01-2007, 21:36
"We" will always pay deserved respects to our military veterans, medaled heroes or not. The rest of the country may forget, but I hope to God "we" never do.

CoLawman
03-01-2007, 23:05
"We" will always pay deserved respects to our military veterans, medaled heroes or not. The rest of the country may forget, but I hope to God "we" never do.

"We", consists of 24 million veterans listed in the 2004 United States census. The sad fact is that membership in veteran organizations like the VFW and The American Legion are dwindling fast. The passing away of the "Greatest Generation" has been devastating to these two organizations.

Unless "We" take an interest in rebuilding these institutions, our collective voice will become dimmer and dimmer in Washington. Just my two cents.

The Reaper
03-01-2007, 23:45
The problem is that every vet's organization I have known has turned into a good old boys club, with the founders and their generation being "first class" members, and everyone else, especially the new guys, being shut out of the decisions and leadership till the old guys are gone. By then, most of the younger vets are no longer interested.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

Kyobanim
03-02-2007, 03:51
The problem is that every vet's organization I have known has turned into a good old boys club, with the founders and their generation being "first class" members, and everyone else, especially the new guys, being shut out of the decisions and leadership till the old guys are gone. By then, most of the younger vets are no longer interested.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

I see that around here also.

Eagle5US
03-02-2007, 03:59
The problem is that every vet's organization I have known has turned into a good old boys club, with the founders and their generation being "first class" members, and everyone else, especially the new guys, being shut out of the decisions and leadership till the old guys are gone.
TR
Concurr-

On the article....my Dad mentioned something similar a couple of days ago. "You don't hear much "good soldier stuff" in the news from over there-the press certainly has a negative focus." He is a Vietnam Veteran. Until I enlisted in the Army, he didn't tell me anything about his service there. Even when I asked him about it. Once I did enlist, I got very little from him.

IMHO, there is still a "second class" attitude towards military service. It is not considered an act of patriotism or duty to country, but more "couldn't get a job doing anything else so he joined the military". This notion is being furthered with recent published reports of the number of waivers now being granted for felons and other "less sociable" folks being allowed in to fill the ranks-the primary pre-req is that they have a HS diploma or GED. Nearly everything else is now waiverable depending on MOS.
The Vietnam era veterans were shunned in many cases for their service and sacrifice. The war was unpopular, hence they were unpopular -> eventually that translates into "joining a profession" that is unpopular. No reason to celebrate there. No stories shared in the living room with the family. A generation, my generation, denied the stories of heroism and valor. "Hey dad, what did you do in Vietnam? I don't want to talk about it. Nothin to tell."

Then 9/11 happened-patriotism at an all time high. Bi-Partisan love. A near orgy of unification on the hill. But we as Americans are spoiled. We as a society cannot be expected to sacrifice anything of ourselves (ME being MY NUMBER 1 concern at all times), and all this "patriotism" becomes inconvenient. Lines at the airport, my national gaurd or reserve spouse being called out of his weekend rotation schedule, soldiers leaving home...and (sadly) not coming back. We want clean and fast. Dominoes in 30 minutes or it's free, an invasion and war on 18 months or less...or it gets old and smelly. Like lettuce on the docks.
Inconvenience then becomes unpopular....and so follows patriotism.

When I go home, my kids will know stories of Warriors I have met here. Acts of bravery I was both part of and witness to. Tales of duty and sacrifice that (I hope) will help instill in them a sense of patriotism and what it means. In 10 years or so, my kids will come over with their children, sit on Grampa's knee, and they will hear those same stories-no doubt embellished some by then-but hear them nontheless.
And when I am dead and gone, my journal will still be there for their kids to sit and look through when they go sneaking in the attic with a flashlight and look through Great Grampas old "army stuff".

We don't celebrate our heros because we haven't been taught to do so. It is upto US, THIS GENERATION, to bring that back. Instead of just "identifying it", "gathering a committee to study it", "commssioning a panel to put forward ideas on re-popularizing it"...Someone has to start it. I, for one, already have.

Eagle

Jack Moroney (RIP)
03-02-2007, 06:03
[QUOTE=Eagle5US] my kids will know stories of Warriors I have met here.QUOTE]

My kids, kids-damn they are all adults, grew up in the military. My oldest son served 7 years as a submariner and my youngest now is serving and is about to pass his 15th year of service. They know the best and the worst about the military and some of those with whom I have served are common names or terms of reference within their day to day lives as examples for which to strive. But it is not my kids, or grandkids for that matter, that need to be imbued with what the military is all about, but the majority of the 99% of this country that has never served their country in uniform that needs to understand what it means to be a military person or family member. The comments my daughter receives from time to time when she attends various functions with other adults when asked where she grew up and what her father did would absolutely blow your mind. A lot of it is out of pure ignorance and much is from biases formed from lack of information or media protrayals of the military. Even within the military community there is a gross misunderstanding about roles, functions, units, etc. One group of folks that probably do more damage to the military image and understanding that I have come across are those that spent one tour in the military, got out for whatever reason with a chip on their shoulder, and suddenly become the spokesman for everything bad about the military. I run into them at the VA all the time. And you know, we all probably have not done enough to foster our own image because most of us could give a rat's ass about what others think as we are most concerned about looking out for one another. The things that matter most to us seem to be how we are perceived by our contemporaries and we simply do not have contemporaries out there in the civilian world that could begin to understand our code. Just my take.

Ret10Echo
03-02-2007, 09:58
The separation bewteen the Greatest Generation and the current has created a fragmentation of the military/former military/retired military base. Some are the disgruntled, other issues arise simply from the fact that I don't hang out at the Legion Hall because I honestly can't stand the smoke...(visibilty zero, ceiling 3 feet).
As such the "base" that should be able to apply a certain amount of sway has no consolidated front. Multiple organizations all bid for membership.
The liberal press also demonizes both the soldier and the mission. Not exactly the type of press you want for the membership drive. Loosely associated groups such as this seem to have a greater draw to the younger (?) crowd, but as we are dispersed across a large geographical area the impact is diluted.
Even in a smaller region such as a major metro. The percentage of younger veterans is diluted... How many flags are flying in your neighborhood?

Monsoon65
03-02-2007, 15:09
The liberal press also demonizes both the soldier and the mission......


The press trashes the troops then crow when something comes out about recruiters not reaching their goals.

I grew up with stories about Doolittle, Mitchell and Gen Flynn. Mom told me about all her uncles that fought in the Pacific during WW2 (the best was when one, a Marine, passed his brother, a Soldier, on a bus and didn't recognize him).

It's more "hip" to have stories of treasonist professors than heroic Troops.

echoes
03-03-2007, 03:13
When I go home, my kids will know stories of Warriors I have met here. Acts of bravery I was both part of and witness to. Tales of duty and sacrifice that (I hope) will help instill in them a sense of patriotism and what it means. In 10 years or so, my kids will come over with their children, sit on Grampa's knee, and they will hear those same stories-no doubt embellished some by then-but hear them nontheless.
And when I am dead and gone, my journal will still be there for their kids to sit and look through when they go sneaking in the attic with a flashlight and look through Great Grampas old "army stuff". Eagle

Sir,

I must interject my .02...this is one of the best post's I have ever read on this site.

Thank You for posting it!
Holly

Gypsy
03-03-2007, 08:13
I forget who said it, but that reminds of the quote that goes, "Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but rather the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime."


I believe it was Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.

Warrior-Mentor
03-03-2007, 19:45
"Heritage of the past is the
seed that brings forth
the harvest of the future."

Doesn't bode well for us, does it?

The Reaper
03-03-2007, 20:33
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

George Santayana