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Had a request from my son for some synthetic lube for the M240 in their HMMV and some for the dismounts. He requested MILITEC by name. I contacted the company via the internet and placed an order for 1-16oz and 3-4oz bottles. My cost came to $83. I wanted it shipped directly to my son, so I called the company and spoke with the general manager. He informed me that the 8oz bottle for the 240 would be plenty. I gave him my son's address at which point he said they would refund my credit card. They provide the lube oil to the troops for free.
I've talked with some folks here that are shooters and they swear by their product. The company's website is www.militec.com.
Anyone else know about this?
CPTAUSRET
02-27-2007, 14:37
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Had a request from my son for some synthetic lube for the M240 in their HMMV and some for the dismounts. He requested MILITEC by name. I contacted the company via the internet and placed an order for 1-16oz and 3-4oz bottles. My cost came to $83. I wanted it shipped directly to my son, so I called the company and spoke with the general manager. He informed me that the 8oz bottle for the 240 would be plenty. I gave him my son's address at which point he said they would refund my credit card. They provide the lube oil to the troops for free.
I've talked with some folks here that are shooters and they swear by their product. The company's website is www.militec.com.
Anyone else know about this?
Good on your son, for being there!
Good on you, for being a good Dad!
And good on Miltech!
HOOAH!
x SF med
02-27-2007, 14:42
YooHoo!! MtnGoat - come and get it!!!!
Props to the Militec guys and gals.
The Reaper
02-27-2007, 15:11
Good people, I recommend their lube, use it myself, and visited them at SHOT to tell them so.
Thanks for the info. Great to see good business people and consideration of service.
TR
82ndtrooper
02-27-2007, 15:57
I'll be ordering some Militec tonight.
Good on Militec !
Ambush Master
02-27-2007, 17:04
I've been using their Oil and Grease for several years!! Found that if you lube the rails, etc then heat everything up with a hair dryer, let it cool and wipee it off, the stuff is magic!!!
For corrosion pprevention you can't beat LPS-2.
Later
Martin
I've been using their Oil and Grease for several years!! Found that if you lube the rails, etc then heat everything up with a hair dryer, let it cool and wipee it off, the stuff is magic!!!
For corrosion pprevention you can't beat LPS-2.
Later
Martin
:D That's what the manager told me to tell my son. I sent him the 10 pkg 30 round magazines. He recommended that my son take the mags apart, lube the internal parts, put them out into the sun to dry, wipe off the excess and have at it. He also said that the 3 4oz bottles should last my son and his 3 dismounts about a year. He also recommended the 8oz bottle to keep the M240 going.
Just thought I'd share the info on MiliTec - great bunch of folks there!
I use Militec and think it works great. I haven't tried their grease; Martin, would you say its comparable to TW-25B?
Ambush Master
02-27-2007, 17:54
I've never used the TW-25B, but I doubt that if you wiped it dry after applying it, that it would be as slick as this stuff makes the surfaces!! The first time I tried the Militec out in the dust of West Texas, I was amazed how clean the weapons stayed and yet the actions were still lubricated!!
I use a Teflon based Grease on my Folding Knives, but you can't wipe it off, you have to leave it on the surface.
Anyone else know about this?
Awesome guys I had the pleasure of meeting at SHOT.
They went on a fairly long rant about losing a government contract, but immediately followed with "if the Government won't supply the best lube to the troops, then we will!"
Then he thrust two gigantic bottles of the stuff into my hands.
Awesome.
Warrior-Mentor
02-27-2007, 20:44
MILITEC-1 was out free 1/2 oz bottles at the National Defense Industial Assn/Special Ops Low Intensity Conflict . Sounded good, but I got concerned when the salesman started telling me about how it "bonds with the metal" of your weapon...
Haven't used it yet.
TR,
- What did you use to lean the old lube out of your weapon before applying the MILITEC-1?
- How did you heat the system to get the MILITEC-1 to bond with the metal?
Ambush Master
02-27-2007, 21:24
TR,
- What did you use to lean the old lube out of your eapon bfore applying the MILITEC-1?
- How did you heat the system to get the MILITEC-1 to bond with the metal?
I just cleaned the weapon as usual, then hit it with some automotive brake cleaner (isopropyl alcohol would work also) to de-grease it.
I then, as stated above, applied the lube (have used this for both oil and grease) then heated all of the parts with a hair drier until they were unconfortable to hold. I would say that an oven at 250 would do as well.
Let them cool, then wipe it dry.
The "bonding with the metal" part has to do with the way the molecular structure of this stuff interacts with the surface of the metal and adheres to it, not too unlike how paint works.
Later
Martin
The Reaper
02-27-2007, 21:58
TR,
- What did you use to lean the old lube out of your weapon before applying the MILITEC-1?
- How did you heat the system to get the MILITEC-1 to bond with the metal?
Same as AM.:D
I will add that the heat from a few rapid strings will normally hit the cooking point for the lube as well.
TR
Warrior-Mentor
02-27-2007, 21:59
Thanks Both!
Is using this lube like using synthetic oil on a car, in the sense that once you use it you can't go back to a 'normal' lube like CLP?
SPC Fonz
The Reaper
02-28-2007, 10:57
Is using this lube like using synthetic oil on a car, in the sense that once you use it you can't go back to a 'normal' lube like CLP?
SPC Fonz
I do not know why you cannot change oil types in a vehicle, but I know of no reason that you cannot change weapons lubes as necessary. Not like weapons clearances are as tight as piston ring-cylinder and bearing clearances are or operate at 8,000 rpm.
TR
kachingchingpow
02-28-2007, 12:33
The theory is that once synthetic penetrates the seals (valve stem, front & rear mains, etc.) that traditional oil will not. After running synthetic, then swapping to traditional oil the seals may dry and become brittle and leak. Not sure how scientific that theory is, but most people I know won't risk going back after running synthetic.
rubberneck
02-28-2007, 13:07
Warrior-Mentor I have a 1/2 ounce bottle of the oil and a tube of the grease that I got at the Ct State IDPA match last year. I have more Militec than I know what to do with. If you want the oil and grease let me know and I send them off to you.
I would say that an oven at 250 would do as well.
Let them cool, then wipe it dry.
Militec says that if using a heat-controlled environment, do not exceed 150F.
odoylerules
03-02-2007, 04:47
I used this stuff for about half the time I was in Iraq, and something I've yet to notice mentioned was its dust-repellant properties. It's not an advertised trait, but a lot of the guys who used it (myself included) noticed that somehow those of us using Militec routinely had less dust buildup than those using CLP.
Needless to say, I loved it and my 16oz bottle (I shared with friends...) was something I hated to leave behind when we redeployed, but at least the next unit is (hopefully) getting some use out of it.
UPDATE 16 Mar: got to thinking today I ought to order myself a bottle of Militec for a personally owned firearm at home in Virginia and one for using here in Texas at work. About an hour after placing my order (using their military discount), I get a phone call from them, expecting them to ask for some sort of proof I'm in the Army, since I listed a civilian address in addition to a military installation.
Turns out they called to tell me they're just going to send me two free bottles of it for my own use (one to VA, one to TX) in addition to a bunch of 1oz bottles to Texas for me to share with guys in my unit. I'm very impressed.
Kraut783
05-01-2007, 17:58
I ordered two bottles from Militec last night...I had provided my AKO e-mail for contact. I had a call from "Russ" at Militec this morning asking if I was AD, I replied that I was NG but had ordered the items for a deployment coming up later this year. He advised that he will be sending out the items and re-funding my credit card. He explained that he sends out free bottles for those going to the sandbox. It was totaly unexpected and appreciated.
Salute to Militec and their support for the troops.
Ambush Master
05-01-2007, 21:37
Militec says that if using a heat-controlled environment, do not exceed 150F.
All well and good, they have to worry about "Product Liability"!! A Firearm left in the sun or in the interior of a vehicle will well exceed this!!! When was the last time that you saw a Standard Kitchen Range with a 150F setting!! Believe me, your weapons will definitely get hotter than 250F during extended firing!!!
Get it hot and let the stuff do it's Magic!!!.......IT WORKS!!!
Snaquebite
05-02-2007, 10:16
Received some samples of this http://www.topduckproducts.com/ at the World SWAT competition last week. Haven't tried it but the demo was impressive.
click "more info" on opening page
These speak more to storage/corrosion properties than to lube, but interesting nonetheless.
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html
http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html
incommin
05-08-2007, 12:08
All this fuss about lubes....... I use good old axle grease and or 90w gear lube.... never had any rust, finish damage, or function problems.....
Jim
trailrunner
05-10-2007, 16:26
Miltec sounds good from all the posts, does TW25B hold up as well?
I am still using Lubriplate, which has worked well for my limited needs.
Firearmz
01-04-2008, 17:54
Mil-Comm did the same thing for my son on his last tour in Iraq. They all used TW25B and I use it in all of my guns. How ever i think just about any of the miracle lubes of today work with routine maintenance and cleaning. I have heard good things about Miltec also.
CharlieMike
04-27-2008, 00:08
I have to agree with incommin on this. My gunner uses motor oil to lube his M2 and I use ball joint grease on the internal points of my weapons. Cheap, easily accessible, and utterly reliable. Just my .02
johnbamburg
02-04-2009, 16:07
I've used Miltec for and it's great.
Lately, due to the price I've switched to plain old Mobile 1, synthetic.
Works just as good for a whole lot less money.
just a thought
I've used Miltec for and it's great.
Lately, due to the price I've switched to plain old Mobile 1, synthetic.
Works just as good for a whole lot less money.
just a thought
Please read the rules and comply before posting elsewhere. You were sent an e-mail about posting an introduction before posting in others threads. You've been here for 8 months and I'm sure you've seen TR, TS or others say the same thing. These rules apply to everyone.
incarcerated
02-05-2009, 18:38
Militec has shipped over $2 million worth of free product to troops. During OIF 5, around the time this thread was starting, I had a bunch of moms sending 1-15 Inf great buckets of the stuff. You simply shot them an e-mail, giving your soldier’s APO. We remain very grateful, and loyal customers.
From their site:
http://www.militec1.com/
[click on the “Troops Click Here For Free Supply” active text.]
• “Please specify the number of troops and types of weapons if possible
• Free supply shipments will be mailed the same day or the next business day at the latest.
• Family members and loved ones: Please provide complete address in theater or stateside.
• Your supply should arrive within 1-2 weeks in theater and 7 days stateside. If your supply has not arrived within 2 weeks/7 days of your original email/phone request, please email us or phone us collect at 1-301-893-3910 and we will track and advise you promptly.
Miltec is great stuff. After I retired I even sent my son some while he was in Iraq (it was scarce at the time).
Recently I have been using a product called Gunzilla that works great. I've read of quite a few people that prefer it over Miltec.
Gunzilla like Miltec doesn't leave a greasy film but lubricates very well.
Might be worth a try.
AL
EDIT: I forgot to mention that it's a cleaner as well as a lubricant.
incarcerated
06-14-2009, 11:57
Many of you will have received this e-mail from Militec, but for those who missed it, this is where we return their favor:
Dear Friend of MILITEC-1:
I have an important favor to ask you, as a user of MILITEC-1. We’ve avoided making this request, but it has now become necessary. I need you to communicate with your senators and representatives in Congress, telling of your experience with MILITEC-1 weapons lubricant. Congress needs to hear from real-world MILITEC-1 users, to understand its value in combat. This communication to Congress should come from service members, their families, and friends.
You may be aware that Militec, Inc., has been struggling for years to have its product made available again to service members through the regular supply system. Certain Army officials insist that its MilSpec CLP – cleaner, lubricant, and preservative – is perfectly suited to lube your weapons in combat. And they insist that, since MILITEC-1 does not meet MilSpec laboratory conditions, it is not suited for use by you in the real world of combat. Those officials have repeatedly canceled and blocked the National Stock Numbers (NSN’s) for MILITEC-1, and have prevented it from being made available to you through supply channels.
Since 9/11, I have provided over 600,000 free bottles MILITEC-1 to every service member who requested it. I believe that MILITEC-1 provides a live-saving advantage in combat, and I have been determined that all of you will have that advantage, even if I have to give it to you.
Now, I have reached the point where it’s very difficult to provide product to our service members, without the supply system’s purchasing it and shipping it through regular supply channels. I have tried in vain to define the benefits of MILITEC-1 in the field, but Army officials maintain that it must conform to MilSpec as tested in Army laboratories.
Thousands – literally – of your emails to me testify to MILITEC-1's superior performance in field conditions, especially in dry, dusty or desert environments. If service members, including family and friends will share their experiences with MILITEC-1 with their two senators and their representative in the House of Representatives, congressional interest can break the logjam I face in certain Army offices.
I need your help. Please use your own words to describe your experiences with MILITEC-1. Army officials dismiss our field reports as “anecdotal, unsubstantiated evidence.” I believe that the combined experience of thousands of service members is more than anecdotal. Your help now is very important.
Address your letters to: Honorable XXX
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator XXX:
Honorable YYY
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Representative YYY:
Don’t worry about other info. It’s not needed. To learn who your senators are for email and mail contact, go to the following website and click your state: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm. For your representative, go to this website and click your state and zip code: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml.
Your message should be short and clear about MILITEC-1. Ask your senators and representative to consider your position carefully, and to forward it to Representative Steny Hoyer, so he will appreciate the concerns of field users of MILITEC-1. Representative Hoyer is the Majority Leader of the House, and his congressional district in Maryland is home to my company, Militec, Inc.
I sincerely appreciate your support, and your effort, with other service members, families and friends, to help Congress understand the value of MILITEC-1 versus CLP.
Most respectfully, and gratefully,
Brad P. Giordani
President
Militec, Inc.
www.militec.com
Millitec is a great product.
Have not tried Militech yet, picked up a bottle of Tuf-Glide at a PX in Iraq and been using it ever since. The dry film type lubes work great, even after a sandstorm it was very easy to clean off my weapon. Light dusting with a paint brush, even the fine talc powder like dust didnt stick, zero malfunctions in any of my weapons since switching.
http://www.sentrysolutions.com/sentry_solutions_product_list.php?product_Active=1