View Full Version : Any QP's been around SASR
AusDigger
02-22-2007, 02:13
Just wondering if any QP's had anything to say about the Australian SASR. I always like to hear other people's perspectives.
I know its not really a relevant question to anyone but me, so if you can't be bothered answering, i'm fine with that.
Just wondering if any QP's had anything to say about the Australian SASR. I always like to hear other people's perspectives.
I know its not really a relevant question to anyone but me, so if you can't be bothered answering, i'm fine with that.
Isnt there a regiment out in Perth by Cottesloe Beach?
CPTAUSRET
02-22-2007, 07:48
Just wondering if any QP's had anything to say about the Australian SASR. I always like to hear other people's perspectives.
I know its not really a relevant question to anyone but me, so if you can't be bothered answering, i'm fine with that.
Not the answer to your query, but I worked a bit with some Aussies in VN, good dudes, fought hard partied hard!
AusDigger
02-23-2007, 02:16
Yep that sounds like the typical digger to me.
Australian SASR is based at Swanbourne in Perth, and I think they are behind that beach you're talking about Hoot. Pretty ritzy suburb they're in too, not a bad place to get posted.
Yep that sounds like the typical digger to me.
Australian SASR is based at Swanbourne in Perth, and I think they are behind that beach you're talking about Hoot. Pretty ritzy suburb they're in too, not a bad place to get posted.
Yea, thats the place. Swanbourne; took the train out there from downtown Perth a couple of times and got picked up by a south african mate of mine who has ties with the regiment there as he was ex sf out in south africa in the late 70's..
Beautiful beach that and a beautiful suburb. Would love to migrate and live there.
Just wondering if any QP's had anything to say about the Australian SASR. I always like to hear other people's perspectives.
I did 1980-82 time frame in the RPI and other PACOM areas. Also with the Aus Commandoes and Clearance Dive Teams, and NZSAS Sqdn. The SAS units were first rate and we got on well, the Cdoes were similar to a Ranger Bn, and the CDTs were closer to our old UDTs. The Maori members of the NZSAS gave us some first rate jungle tracking/survival training, as did the old Negrito scout who trained my ODA in the RPI. I'd work with the Aussies/Kiwis again any day!
Richard
Basenshukai
02-23-2007, 08:48
I worked with them last year in the CENTCOM AOR. They are magnificent soldiers. I would work with them again.
From all of the Coalition Forces I worked with and saw there, they were the closest thing to us (SF) that I observed. Their warrior ethos, tactics and doctrine are strikingly similar.
Sinister
02-23-2007, 15:56
Have served with plenty of Oz SAS and Commandos (quite a few of the exchange and LNO guys), most recently at the beginning of the war. GREAT fellas.
Gary B once told me yanks were entirely too serious and did not take play time often enough.
I'd work with them again any time, anywhere.
AusDigger
02-25-2007, 19:37
I did 1980-82 time frame in the RPI and other PACOM areas. Also with the Aus Commandoes and Clearance Dive Teams, and NZSAS Sqdn. The SAS units were first rate and we got on well, the Cdoes were similar to a Ranger Bn, and the CDTs were closer to our old UDTs. The Maori members of the NZSAS gave us some first rate jungle tracking/survival training, as did the old Negrito scout who trained my ODA in the RPI. I'd work with the Aussies/Kiwis again any day!
Richard
Those NZSAS blokes are tough fellas, they can do a lot with very little.
A lot of the clearance divers try and go over the SASR as they aren't getting any deployments. A lot of them also get trained in Advanced CQB so they can get attached to TAG (East), the Commando Terrorist Assualt group.
The Cdo's are the biggest battalion the Aus Army has at the moment, and DoD is trying to get them to take over the 'hard hitting' roles that SASR has at the moment so they can go back to their more traditional roles of special recon etc. So the Cdo's would definately be similar to your rangers.
AusDigger
02-25-2007, 19:48
I worked with them last year in the CENTCOM AOR. They are magnificent soldiers. I would work with them again.
From all of the Coalition Forces I worked with and saw there, they were the closest thing to us (SF) that I observed. Their warrior ethos, tactics and doctrine are strikingly similar.
I guess when Colonel Schumacher said the Australian SAS was Australia's version of SF, he meant it.
Thanks for the reply.
AusDigger
02-25-2007, 19:57
Have served with plenty of Oz SAS and Commandos (quite a few of the exchange and LNO guys), most recently at the beginning of the war. GREAT fellas.
Gary B once told me yanks were entirely too serious and did not take play time often enough.
I'd work with them again any time, anywhere.
I have been told a story about an EX-SASR member who decided to play a joke on some delta guys, who he thought were taking themselves too seriously.
The SAS bloke hid near the latrines of the patrol base until the delta guys came to use it. He waited until they were holding onto the rope, that was supported by a nearby tree, and leaning right over the trench. Then he quietly when over to the tree and cut the rope, causing the delta guys to fall into the latrine.
They certainly have a good sense of humour.
AusDigger
02-25-2007, 20:03
Yea, thats the place. Swanbourne; took the train out there from downtown Perth a couple of times and got picked up by a south african mate of mine who has ties with the regiment there as he was ex sf out in south africa in the late 70's..
Beautiful beach that and a beautiful suburb. Would love to migrate and live there.
Perth is the place to be. Sydney and Melbourne are getting to expensive. Perth is still reasonable in comparison. I'm guessing your mate was Rhodesian SAS? I imagine he would have seen some pretty heavy stuff in his time.
Perth is the place to be. Sydney and Melbourne are getting to expensive. Perth is still reasonable in comparison. I'm guessing your mate was Rhodesian SAS? I imagine he would have seen some pretty heavy stuff in his time.
Spot on there. He doesnt have the Rhodesian accent anymore and is a true blue aussie at heart and a patriot. We have had some amazing discussions and I love talking to this guy. Actually met him on the death march in Borneo two years ago and we have both visited each other again (he has been back out with the wife and kids 3-4 times since then to Borneo where I live) and I was over with the girlfriend to Perth last year after a 14 year absence, having spent two years there at a local college as a youth.
He doesnt say much about his time in the rhodesian army or the sas so I tend to skip this topic when we do get into the topic of the military but he is a journalist now and has covered Afghan and other hot area's (not Iraq from my understanding) and has seen the work's....
I do assume he has ties with the local regiment from his time with the SAS in "Zimbabwe"..
On that note, though some say Perth is deadly quiet (and it is for a city), its still a beautiful place and I have no hesitations in saying I love the state...
Edit:
I had gotten an email from him just a short while ago and he stated he was not in any special forces unit so my bad. He just knows people in the regiment because of his South African ties and because he is ex-military and thru ex-sf dinner functions. Sorry about that mate.
:p
AusDigger
02-26-2007, 15:54
I had gotten an email from him just a short while ago and he stated he was not in any special forces unit so my bad. He just knows people in the regiment because of his South African ties and because he is ex-military and thru ex-sf dinner functions. Sorry about that mate.
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Hey dude I was just taking a guess. Sounds like a pretty amazing fella anyway.
I had gotten an email from him just a short while ago and he stated he was not in any special forces unit so my bad. He just knows people in the regiment because of his South African ties and because he is ex-military and thru ex-sf dinner functions. Sorry about that mate.
:p
Hey dude I was just taking a guess. Sounds like a pretty amazing fella anyway.[/QUOTE]
Oh, he's a grumpy old fart but a good man. Very passionate about Australia and also the armed forces....good bloke to know for sure :)
Monsoon65
02-28-2007, 19:22
When I was in the AOR in 1998, these guys were about three or four tents down from us. Great guys!! They didn't know what to make of a bunch of Air National Guardsmen, mostly old dudes in their 50's (I was the "kid" at 33).
I had just returned from vacation in NZ and had read that they were deploying for Desert Thunder. When I got incountry, my Chief said, "Hey, you don't bunk here anymore; you're down the row with your Kiwi buddies!"
AusDigger
03-01-2007, 16:59
Im guessing that the down time would have been filled with a lot of pranks. Thanks for the reply. How'd you go understanding that funny accent they have?
Monsoon65
03-03-2007, 18:24
Im guessing that the down time would have been filled with a lot of pranks. Thanks for the reply. How'd you go understanding that funny accent they have?
I'd been hanging around Kiwis for three weeks prior, so I got a good handle on their accents. It was the Australians that spoke funny!!:p
AusDigger
03-04-2007, 18:05
Hahaha... I had an NZ section commander once. When he barked orders at my section we would often look at each other and shrug because we had no idea what he had just ordered us to do. It was even harder when were marching in formation.
SouthernDZ
03-04-2007, 18:17
Hahaha... I had an NZ section commander once. When he barked orders at my section we would often look at each other and shrug because we had no idea what he had just ordered us to do. It was even harder when were marching in formation.
Had the same problem with a Marine Corps Class Sergeant in jump school (78). He always wanted me to swab the deck, clean the portholes and sweep the ladder well :confused:
Scimitar
03-04-2007, 18:20
Com' on Digger, out accents are that different mate. :D
Scimitar
03-04-2007, 18:28
The biggest difference about coming State side is all the bloody Nouns are different.
Boot = Trunck
Biscut - Cookie
Breakfast Scoon = Biscut
House Valuation = Apprasial
There a hundred more I can't think of right now. (AussieDigger help us out)
And driving on the wrong side of the road sacred the living S**t out of me the first time I tried. I have to be honest I pulled out on the wrong side of the road the other day, drove for about 200 feet before I saw a car coming towards me. I couldn't change to the correct side of the road becuase of a barrier. So this guy stops and just gives me this look of 'What the f**k" as I drive by him on the wrong side of the road.
I try and fake a look of, like I'm supposed to be there, or something.
I've done some work in Fiji and things are obviously different there, but State side the differences are suttle, you don't always catch them the first time round.
AusDigger
03-11-2007, 23:49
Had the same problem with a Marine Corps Class Sergeant in jump school (78). He always wanted me to swab the deck, clean the portholes and sweep the ladder well :confused:
Navy Commander "Any questions"
Homer '"Is the poop deck really what I think it is?"
AusDigger
03-11-2007, 23:57
[QUOTE=Scimitar]
There a hundred more I can't think of right now. (AussieDigger help us out)
My mum is American so I am used to most of them. E.g. While driving with my mates I often go "Oh I better go to the gas station", and they would look at me with questioning looks. And don't try and say they Australian and NZ accents are the same, that's like saying the english and Irish accents are basically the same (say that to an Irish person and they won't be too happy, I know from experience).:p Mind you I will admit that the Americans are the easiest to understand out of all of the English speaking countries
Scimitar
03-12-2007, 10:58
The saddest thing about the New Zealand Accent is our binary vowel system, most English speaking countries have 'a.e.i.o.u' (pronounce them the way the sound). In New Zealand unfortunately we only have 2. 'a.a.a.a.u'.
Makes it bloody difficult to teach kids how to spell, and believe me I've tried.
Ask the average Kiwi male, educated or not to say the plural of woman and you'll get a confused look. With this vowel system they sound exactly the same.
My point.....Us Americans my enFAsise the wrong siLAbils, but at least us Americans pronounciate, unlike us New Zealanders. :D
(Ask a kiwi how to pronounce the 13th element on the periodic table or how to say the thing that you park your car in.)
Example of classic cross cultural communication.
Was flying in very small plan from Kansas City to I forget where.
Was asked by the rather attractive flight attendant if I'd volunteer to move across to the other side of the plane to assist with plane balance (I didn't know they still needed to do this).
When I confirmed my intent by saying "Sweet As" (Slang for OK in New Zealand); pronounced "Sweet Arse" to the American ear.
I was given the look of disgust and not feed my share of peanuts for the whole flight.
AusDigger
03-12-2007, 20:54
Im glad you didn't have to ask for 6 of anything otherwise you would have gotten a slap in the face. I can just imagine how "6 please" would have gone down with the stewardess. "Sweet as, I'll have 6 please". Haha
In answer to your car parking question:
Moe: Garage? Hey fella's the Garaaage. Well ooh la-di-da Mr. Frenchman.
Homer: Well what do you call it?
Moe: A car hole.
And how did my thread turn into a discussion about speech pathology. Oh well it was fun while it lasted.
Try explaining cricket to a FOB American!
"You see, you have six balls in an over."
"Six bowels?"
"No, balls."
"What the hell is this game?"
AusDigger
03-18-2007, 20:57
"Make sure when the bowler bowls you a flipper, that you don't let it hit your middle stump"
"Excuse me"
I have a question concerning the SASR. In reading many of these comments it seems there is at least a productive working relationship between American SOF and Allied SOF. However, I have read many articles were SASR soldiers have publicly criticized American Special Forces.
Stated things such as:
"The Americans couldn't comprehend we would have the ability to go into areas for protracted times to do our strategic roles,'' says former Afghanistan SAS taskforce intelligence chief Adam, who spoke exclusively to Time. "It's not what they do, because they think you go in for a day or two days, and do your business and get out,'' says Adam, who does not want his surname used for security reasons. "It wasn't until after certain high-tempo combat engagements during (Operation) Anaconda that we kind of worked out that we can do better than this.'' Similar distinctions were noted amongst the lower ranks. "They were body-builder types, full of steroids, some of them,'' says one SAS Afghan veteran. "They could only manage a couple of days. We could go for weeks at a time.''
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1067560,00.html#ixzz1J9a56Yra
There is another article form time magazine where SASR soldiers again speak low of the SF soldiers they have worked with stating:
Redback Kilo Three's first mission, in the mountains of eastern Afghanistan, kept up the high standard. Led by a patrol sergeant with 12 years' experience in the regiment, the six men of RK3 were at their peak. Perhaps the only weak link was the sixth man on the patrol, a Green Beret soldier on exchange from the U.S. Some troopers thought he was not up to SAS standards - a shortcoming that became more obvious as time went on.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1067002,00.html#ixzz1J9brX54e
I mean i read crap like this all the time from British news sources, British and Australian columnist. I find it very unprofessional.
More importantly i would like some thoughts of this by some QP's if you care to comment. If not I completely understand, I just hear comments like these brought up alot and would rather have the opinion of more qualified people.
I have a question concerning the SASR............
This was a 4 year old thread and this is where you place your first post?
Since you have failed to follow the instructions given you when you signed on, you have not read the board to get the feel of it and you ask such a question..........
I think you're here for a little agitation.
22 yrs old, inspiring to one day dawn the Green Beret
22 yrs old, inspiring to one day dawn the Green Beret *
Ok make fun of me for asking a question.
( I actually take a bit offense to that, but I guess I see your point).
I admit that statement i made above is dramatic.
No, there was no preconceived notion on my part to agitate or stir a conflict of interest by posting what i have. Even though some of the quotes were very harsh. I am more along the lines wondering if this is the kind of s**t talk that goes on among the Spec Ops community that is not meant to be taken seriously .
If you feel my question was inappropriate and violated rules that govern the forum then I sincerely apologize.
Scimitar
04-10-2011, 16:33
LMAO.
Holy necropost Bat Man.
Forgot about this thread, good laugh.
Cheers
S
.....( I actually take a bit offense to that, but I guess I see your point)............
That was your second post on this board. Again in the wrong spot. Comply with the board rules or you'll be wearing FTFSI.
1stindoor
04-11-2011, 07:01
I have a question....
Me too. What is it about people using 88 in their screen names that raises my BS meter? The last one couldn't follow instructions either.
Scimitar
04-11-2011, 10:18
Also "88" being the by word for the Aryan Youth and Nazi Skinhead movements, I tend to try and leave it out of stuff in general. :rolleyes: