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desertskull
02-19-2007, 20:25
Rolex Oyster Submariner, black bezel, black dial......
WITH SF CREST engraved on back. All paperwork and warrenty provided plus box and certificates!!!
Bought 2 yr ago at Lundstrom Jewelers in Cross Creek Mall, Bragg, will start talking for $3300.
I'm redeployed, so as soon as I can figure out how to attech photos, I will
I'm in Campbell, but routinely visits Bragg. If you're serious, we'll start talking via e-mail and cell.
Warrior-Mentor
02-19-2007, 21:40
Photos?
I would also like to see photos. Can you include photos of the winding side, clasp and back of the watch?
Also, do you have certificates (seperate from the warranty), box etc?
sfbaby1982
02-20-2007, 12:15
I guess I make the third person in line for those pictures if it isn't too much of a hassel. Thanks in advance.
Ricky
desertskull
02-20-2007, 13:39
Hey guys,
I'm deployed now and will attempt to have the photos e-mailed to me. No scratches at all. I do have the certificates and box (evertyhing to verify I'm not trying to cheat ya,ha). Please stand by-
desertskull
04-18-2007, 17:41
Rolex Oyster Submariner, black bezel, black dial......
WITH SF CREST engraved on back. All paperwork and warrenty provided plus box and certificates!!!
Bought 2 yr ago at Lundstrom Jewelers in Cross Creek Mall, Bragg, will start talking for $3300.
I'm redeployed, so as soon as I can figure out how to attach photos, I will. I hope you can see the pics.
I'm in Campbell, but routinely visits Bragg. If you're serious, we'll start talking via e-mail and cell.
Hope to hear from someone
Basenshukai
04-19-2007, 10:15
I am posting this because so many guys in SF buy Rolex watches.
Please, do not think that I'm saying that the watch being offered here is a fake. In fact, the crown guards look legit. But, here is some information I put together from experience in how to spot a fake:
1) Size of Crown Guards - The "crown" is the winder which happens to have the Rolex crown on it. The crown guards are the two little horns on either side. If you notice, the Rolex Explorer does not have crown guards (the Rolex Explorer II, however, does have them). The size of the crown guards on fake Submariners is usually huge as compared to the crown. Also, they look a lot less pointy than the real deal.
2) Tube and Crown - If you unscrew the crown, you will reveal the tube that has a small rubber seal on it. This is the patented "triple lock" crown design that made the Submariner famous. Fakes have the rubber seal as well (good fakes do). However, if you were to look closely at the threads of the tube, they are usually very rough and you might even see small metal shavings in there. Genuine tubes are very clean in design. This is the difference between a precision, high-grade factory and QC process and a "mom-and-pop" shop in a building basement in China.
3) Crown and Watch Case - If you take your watch and put it sideways so that you are looking at the flat side of the crown, you will see the distinctive crown design with the three dots underneath (three dots indicate "triple lock"; many other Rolex models do not have this). The crown should be centered on the case so that it is not sitting closer to the case back. This is because most Submariner fakes use the ETA 2836-2 movement (the engine of the watch) where the design requires that the tube and crown sit lower towards the case back. The in-house designed Rolex Caliber 3135 is not build this way and thus, a genuine Rolex Submariner's crown (and tube) are centered on the case.
4) Weight - The genuine Rolex is relatively light. The actual weight escapes me right now. But, by virtue of the construction materials, the fakes usually have more heft to them.
5) Reference Number vs. Serial Number - The fact that a "Submariner" has engraved Reference and Serial Numbers between the lugs (the lugs are the two large horns on either side of the case if you take off the bracelet) means nothing to determine a genuine. This is because anyone can engrave anything on there with the right machine (and font). However, the correct Ref. Number for the Submariner (with date), for example, is 16610. You will also find this on the green holographic Rolex sticker on the case back. The serial number will be found on the opposite side. By the way, the case reference number will be on the 12 O'clock side of the case, between the lugs. The serial number depends on when that particular watch was manufactured. If you can get the serial number from a seller (individual owner and not an authorized Rolex dealer) - even from a "reputable seller" from EBay - contact Montres Rolex and verify the status of your prospective buy. Many stolen genuine Rolex and fake Rolex have been spotted this way.
6) Holographic stickers - This is the green holographic sticker on the case back. First of all, there is absolutely no real reason to keep this thing on the back of your Rolex watch. While the uninitiated seem to place a value on this, you can go on EBay and buy tons of these holographic stickers for a couple of dollars. The genuine Rolex will have this holographic sticker along with a thin red line along the side, over the sticker and touching the metal itself beyond the sticker. This is there just to tell the customer buying a brand new Rolex that the watch movement has not been tampered with since the date of manufacture. Obviously, if the Rolex was serviced in the past this "seal" would be broken. Although, the sticker can still be present, the thin red line would not line up along the case back anymore. But, hold the phone; EBay now sells clear stickers with the "thin red line" along the side to place on top of the holographic sticker. I have removed all green stickers from my Rolex watches. They serve no purpose after you have purchased them.
7) Case back engravings - No genuine Rolex Submariners have any engravings on the back. There is no "Rolex", or "Submariner" or anything back there. I would recommend, however, that if you do plan on keeping your Rolex (and not re-selling it) to take it to a shop and have the case back engraved with something unique to you. This greatly diminishes the value of the watch to a thief and makes it easier to identify to the authorities should it be stolen.
8) Movement and Rotor - If you have the opportunity to have the seller show you a photo of the movement, do so and show this to an authorized dealer or an authorized Rolex repair shop technician. This is the only sure way to identify your prospective buy beyond all doubt. One way to do this, as a seller, is to take the watch you are selling to an authorized Rolex repair technician and have them open the case back an snap the photo (they are set up to do this anyway). As a buyer, contact said repair shop and verify this with them, along with the serial number. By the way, genuine Rolex Submariner rotors (the pendulum-like part that winds the watch inside the movement) do not have any engravings on them. The only engravings are on the movement itself, under the rotor. Also, if you see the engravings "ETA" anywhere on the watch movement, it is a fake (with a pretty good non-Rolex movement). Lastly, the genuine Rolex Submariner movement has two Teflon-coated gears that are visible when the rotor is turned in either direction. These gears have a distinctive red clay color.
9) Etched Crown on Crystal - The Rolex Company uses Sapphire for its crystal. This is highly scratch resistant unless scored by a diamond (like if you are horsing around with your significant other and she is wearing a diamond ring) or other such substance. On the later models, Rolex has put a small laser etched Rolex crown image at the six o'clock position on the crystal. This laser etching should require a jeweler's loupe to see. If you can see it easily with the naked eye, it's most likely a fake (or you got some great vision).
10) Papers, box and warranty - Beware of sellers claiming that the Rolex they are selling is missing all papers because, "they were burned in a fire", "lost during a move", or the watch was bought that way from a collector. These are all likely stories for selling fake or stolen Rolex watches. Usually, a person that buys a $5,000 USD watch will take great care to keep this stuff. The box is not so pivotal in that regard, however. But, the box being missing has been known to decrease the resale value from $200 USD to $500 USD.
I post this because, in some cases, even well-meaning sellers might be selling a fake Rolex because they don't know that what they originally bought was fake to begin
Edited to add this:
Sweeping Hand - Although a ticking hand on a Rolex is a sure sign of a fake (many years ago, Rolex did manufacture quartz powered movements for some models and there is a whole sub-culture of collectors out there for these rare pieces), ETA makes very similar sweeping movements that would easily pass the "sweeping hand" test. Just be aware.
LongWire
05-01-2007, 13:44
I wouldn't say that its a fake, but I would check it for blood.......no telling where this DesertSkull guy got this from!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D :D
Beautiful watch, I miss mine. I was sitting in a restaurant reading the menu when someone rode their motorcycle through the front door, jumped off and knocked me out with a steel pipe to get it.
I guess that if I had to be mugged, I'm glad that Mad Max did it.
Thank God for insurance with USAA.
The Reaper
05-01-2007, 16:11
Beautiful watch, I miss mine. I was sitting in a restaurant reading the menu when someone rode their motorcycle through the front door, jumped off and knocked me out with a steel pipe to get it.
I guess that if I had to be mugged, I'm glad that Mad Max did it.
Thank God for insurance with USAA.
Any witnesses to this?:munchin
TR
Any witnesses to this?:munchin
TR
Yes, a whole restaurant full of very embarassed Argentines, an ambulance crew and an ashen faced maitre d'.
In my own defense, I wouldn't usually wear a watch like that in SA, but this was in Recoleta and I was going to a business lunch.
Hint for new recruits: showing up for BCT with a fractured orbit and concussion will make it harder than it really needs to be. :D
Sorry for the highjack, Desertskull! I hope you find a buyer.
desertskull
05-07-2007, 16:46
no worries.......however, if my watch was truly taken before the last drop of blood hit the ground....THEN MISTER LONGWIRE WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH ME...haha, see ya @ work buddy
I wouldn't say that its a fake, but I would check it for blood.......no telling where this DesertSkull guy got this from!!!!!!!!
:D :D
They make fake ones:(
When I bought mine. The guy even made his brother wash my windshield for free, just for buying two. Get my money back but I cant remember the intersection where he had his store set up..
Bill Harsey
05-08-2007, 08:26
If you can't have a Rolex, use the rednecks emergency watch.
Drive a stick in the ground, When there is no more shadow, it's time to drink beer.
If you can't have a Rolex, use the rednecks emergency watch.
Drive a stick in the ground, When there is no more shadow, it's time to drink beer.
:D Now there's someone who thinks like I do. Hmmm...that a scarey thought!
If you can't have a Rolex, use the rednecks emergency watch.
Drive a stick in the ground, When there is no more shadow, it's time to drink beer.
Maybe this should be in the Survive! thread. :D
gunnerjohn
05-10-2007, 09:11
If you can't have a Rolex, use the rednecks emergency watch.
Drive a stick in the ground, When there is no more shadow, it's time to drink beer.
Since when have you ever waited for the shadow to disappear?
The Reaper
05-10-2007, 09:34
Since when have you ever waited for the shadow to disappear?
He didn't say the stick had to be straight or you couldn't adjust the time, as needed.:D
TR
Ive always been a big Breitling fan since Ive grown up in an airplane... and the only Rolex I owned I had to get the thing serviced all the time.
Anyway, Is the watch still on the market? If so, will you please PM me with the serial number and other info relevant to do some research which may potentially lead to a purchase. shukran
The Reaper
10-06-2007, 07:14
I think a non-QP buying an SF-crested item is a recipe for trouble.
TR
Team Sergeant
10-06-2007, 09:21
I think a non-QP buying an SF-crested item is a recipe for trouble.
TR
Hell no!:D
Buy the watch and wear it through SFAS and the Q-Course!
Impress your SF instructors (and fellow students) by showing them your SF watch at every training venue!
Team Sergeant
I think a non-QP buying an SF-crested item is a recipe for trouble.
TR
I agree. I collect watches and would never wear something representing something that I am not and only hope to soon be. I actually bought and resold watches on Ebay to get through college (beer/spending money). It was quite lucrative... for a college job that is. Back to browsing.
Buy the watch and wear it through SFAS and the Q-Course!
Impress your SF instructors (and fellow students) by showing them your SF watch at every training venue!
Team Sergeant
LOL!! That's sooooo funny!!!
Reminds me of days gone by…….Harmony Church…..a drill who was a former ranger finds a black ball cap with a gold ranger tab hidden in a trainee’s locker. Spent the best part of that day watching the festivities.:D
82ndtrooper
10-06-2007, 18:15
LOL!! That's sooooo funny!!!
Reminds me of days gone by…….Harmony Church…..a drill who was a former ranger finds a black ball cap with a gold ranger tab hidden in a trainee’s locker. Spent the best part of that day watching the festivities.:D
That's not the first time. We had a SPC that ets'd on a Friday morning. He gave a good bye speech in the his class A's. Spit shined to the hilt, everything in it's proper place, fresh haircut, perfect Beret, and great little "See ya later" speech.
Later that morning, prior to flight home, he had gone to Kims and had a Ranger Tab sewn on his class A jacket. What he didn't realize was that the DIVARTY CO was standing in line behind him waiting for his own embroidered name tags.
I heard he was in the parking lot of Kims doing pushups with a torn off Ranger tab, and sweating through his class A jacket. I believe he made his flight, but the Ranger Tab was secured by the DIVARTY Commander.
It may very well have been just a story, but IIRC 1st SGT Cruce was not all in the mood to lauph about it after mid day formation.
Warrior-Mentor
12-19-2007, 19:19
Still for sale or dead thread?
desertskull
03-25-2009, 10:10
Watch is SOLD, only after I took the backing off and replaced with a blank.
KIR
blue02hd
03-25-2009, 10:54
Watch is SOLD, only after I took the backing off and replaced with a blank.
KIR
Ok, how much for the engraved backing? Or did that go with the orignal sale?
Basenshukai
03-25-2009, 11:34
Watch is SOLD, only after I took the backing off and replaced with a blank.
KIR
Please, tell me that you did not throw out the SF engraved caseback.:confused:
Hell no!:D
Buy the watch and wear it through SFAS and the Q-Course!
Impress your SF instructors (and fellow students) by showing them your SF watch at every training venue!
Team Sergeant
Don't forget to get an SF tattoo and buy a beret with flash sewn on to carry in your ruck for good luck! Works like a charm. ;)
As for watches, I always wore a Seiko similar to a Submariner (way cheaper and nobody ever wanted to beat me up for it) or an issued OD Bulova - and back when, us SCUBA types could also go to the locker and check out a Submariner (if your team was on good terms with the Locker's NCOIC) for Ops (or...if you didn't exactly tell them why...to impress an important date). :D
Cost for a Submariner was around $650 - looks as if it has gone up a mite since then.
Richard's $.02 :munchin