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NousDefionsDoc
02-14-2007, 20:55
I got something today nobody else has and only one person on this board has ever seen. :lifter

The Reaper
02-14-2007, 20:58
Hmm, what might that be?

Does it have sharp edges or launch bullets, or is it made of nylon?

This thread is worthless without pics.

TR

x SF med
02-14-2007, 21:11
I got something today nobody else has and only one person on this board has ever seen. :lifter

Tease, give it up Bro - pics or it never happened.

NousDefionsDoc
02-14-2007, 22:05
There will be pics and more forthcoming








in about a month.;)

x SF med
02-15-2007, 07:24
There will be pics and more forthcoming








in about a month.;)

Thanks, Bro - the suspense is going to be fun.

swatsurgeon
02-15-2007, 07:40
I got something today nobody else has and only one person on this board has ever seen. :lifter

Is it just like this piercing in the uvula (see pic) ??????????? but with a .45 bullet ? I've seen it up close!

The Reaper
02-15-2007, 08:42
Is it just like this piercing in the uvula (see pic) ??????????? but with a .45 bullet ? I've seen it up close!

Wouldn't that be terminal, as there are things behind it that do not respond well to piercings?

TR

Kyobanim
02-15-2007, 08:53
Is it just like this piercing in the uvula (see pic) ??????????? but with a .45 bullet ? I've seen it up close!

My day is now complete after seeing that picture.

Irish_Army01
02-15-2007, 13:54
Can you at least give us a clue???:munchin

jatx
02-15-2007, 15:52
I got something today nobody else has and only one person on this board has ever seen. :lifter

Will it require medication? :D

x SF med
02-15-2007, 17:13
Did you get it from Harsey?

Chris
02-15-2007, 18:12
Did it come from a small shop in California?

kgoerz
02-15-2007, 18:25
and only one person on this board has ever seen

He even let me hold it, but then asked for it right back.

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 19:13
Will it require medication? :D
Now that was some funny shit. The only thing funnier would be if it was your new user title and avatar....;)

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 19:14
Did you get it from Harsey?
No.

It is nylon.

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 19:16
He even let me hold it, but then asked for it right back.
You have a funny definition of "asked" Brother.:)

Make that two people on this board have ever seen.

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 19:18
Did it come from a small shop in California?
Nope. NYC.

Maytime
02-15-2007, 19:35
It is nylon.


Nylon, you say...

The Reaper
02-15-2007, 19:59
Then it is tac gear from EMDOM.

TR

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 20:05
Then it is tac gear from EMDOM.

TR
Indeed

rubberneck
02-15-2007, 20:13
Nope. NYC.

Something new from Crye?

kgoerz
02-15-2007, 20:41
could it be related with THIS! by chance

NousDefionsDoc
02-15-2007, 20:53
could it be related with THIS! by chance
BWWWAAAA! What is it? How do we work it? WE DO WHAT?!!!!!!!

I'm duty bound by the honor code to tell them you're making fun of their ice pick in a tube.

kgoerz
02-15-2007, 21:14
It's just the next generation manually operated Shock Tube Initiator

jatx
02-15-2007, 21:31
Now that was some funny shit. The only thing funnier would be if it was your new user title and avatar....;)

::Making self very small and quiet::

:)

vsvo
02-15-2007, 21:50
Then it is tac gear from EMDOM.

TRIndeed
So is MM the second person?

NousDefionsDoc
02-16-2007, 19:26
I used it today. There are pictures.

Surgicalcric
02-16-2007, 19:53
I used it today. There are pictures.

I refer you back to one of The Boss' previous comments.

This thread is worthless without pics.

Crip

NousDefionsDoc
02-16-2007, 22:29
Not yet. Don't want to cause a stampede and crash the internet.

vsvo
02-16-2007, 22:43
Not yet. Don't want to cause a stampede and crash the internet.
LOL. No better way to usher in The Year of the Pig than kit pics!

Air.177
02-21-2007, 08:30
Not yet. Don't want to cause a stampede and crash the internet.


So, how about that stampede you promised. :munchin

Genghis_Don
02-21-2007, 09:54
He even let me hold it, but then asked for it right back.


Did he ask you to wait till it got soft before giving it back? :eek:

Hey I had a girlfriend that I'd swear in court didn't even HAVE a uvula. Or a sense of monogamy now that I think back on it. :boohoo

x SF med
02-21-2007, 11:23
NDD-
Why were you letting others handle your Nylon bullet proof jockstrap - huh?:eek:
(damn, that comment is going to hurt me, luckily I'm a medic)

Air.177
02-21-2007, 12:22
NDD-
Why were you letting others handle your Nylon bullet proof jockstrap - huh?:eek:
(damn, that comment is going to hurt me, luckily I'm a medic)

Cpt O'Hagan
"I invented the Bulletproof Cup gag, except when we did it , the rookie wore the cup * BANG* [Glass Breaking] and we used Blanks. You're a sick F*%$ Mack."

Mack
"Thanks Chief"

Roguish Lawyer
02-21-2007, 13:15
Yawn

NousDefionsDoc
02-21-2007, 16:08
What do you think MM?

militarymoron
02-22-2007, 14:20
What do you think MM?
give us a review, brother :)

NousDefionsDoc
02-22-2007, 17:49
I will this weekend, I can't upload the pictures from here.

NousDefionsDoc
02-25-2007, 09:34
Ladies and Gentlemen,
It is my distinct privilege to introduce you to the Kit Mat as designed by Military Moron and executed by EMDOM.

It is an extremely well thought-out and executed design, elegant in its simplicity, filling what I consider to have been a void with today's cleaning kits. It works exactly as intended, organizing cleaning chores nicely. I haven't taken specific dimensions, but I am sure MM can answer your questions. I will say that rolled up, it fits perfectly in the outer pocket of the Spartan Bag, which is about the same size as a pocket on the ALICE. It will also fit well in a Nalgene bottle pouch.

As you can see, it has two zipper pouches to hold your cleaning supplies. It also has a clever patch with hook and loop straps to hold those small pieces that are always getting lost. I thought that was an especially good idea.

Since the pictures were taken, I have gotten it dirty and it worked like a charm. I highly recommend it for your field cleaning chores. It will be available soon on the EMDOM website.

NousDefionsDoc
02-25-2007, 09:42
In these you can see it rolled up. The shock-cord closures were a great idea.

NousDefionsDoc
02-25-2007, 09:47
I am still working on exactly what the contents will be. It will hold 9mm and 5.56 Bore Snakes, solvent and lube no problem. As you can see I also have a standard M4 cleaning kit in there in one of the pouches.

The materials and workmanship are of the highest caliber as always from EMDOM. Heavy duty zippers, bomb-proof sewing, the works.

Again, highly recommended. MM and EMDOM have a real winner here.

The Reaper
02-25-2007, 10:21
Very nice indeed.

Well done, MM and EMDOM.

TR

militarymoron
02-25-2007, 10:29
thanks doc, for the plug and TR for the kind words. doc, you've beaten me to my own preview (which i'll release as EMDOM gets ready to put them out). :) great job on the pics.
i've already done my writeup, and i'll post the text here as it should answer any additonal questions anyone might have.

<<I came up with the concept and sketch back in July '06, and after a couple of prototype and changes, it will finally go into production (estimated availability from EMDOM April '07). It's nothing high-speed; just something that I think most shooters will find a very practical shooting accessory, in my humble opinion.

Concept - If you go shooting, whether it be at an indoor our outdoor range, or just out in the field, chances are that you've had to disassemble your weapon, either to take a look at a problem, or simply to clean it. Even when shooting off the bench at an outdoor range, it's nice to have a clean surface. Most of us have an old T-shirt or towel to do the work on, and keep the oily parts out of the dirt. I usually carry a G.I. M16 cleaning kit pouch with my sectional cleaning rod, small bottles of bore solvent and oil, jags, brushes, and maybe another one with some essential tools and spare parts. Every time I've had to break all of this stuff out, and find a clean surface to work on my gun, I thought about how nice it'd be to be able to have all of these in one package for the field. I did some research, and while I found cleaning kit pouches and mats, they were always separate, and the mats were too bulky and large for practical field use. And of course, none of them were built out of 1000D cordura in cool colours. So, the KitMat idea was born.

The KitMat is a fold-up/roll-up cleaning kit pouch, with attached mat (hence the imaginative name). The mat itself is a 24" x 19" piece of coated 1000D cordura. At one end are some grommets, two of which have a loop of shock cord attached. The shock cords keep the mat rolled up tightly. At the other end are two cordura pouches with internal pockets for cleaning kits and spare parts.

Empty and rolled up, it's approximately the same length as a G.I. M16 cleaning kit pouch (9.5"). The diameter depends on how much stuff you put in the pouches. To unroll it, the shock cord loops are passed over the ends of the roll, and the mat unrolled completely. Then it's unfolded and spread out flat.

Mat - I sized the dimensions of the mat very carefully. I didn't want it to be too small as to be unusable, and I didn't want it to be too large as it'd be too bulky. The size of the pouches were based on the G.I. pouch dimensions, and dicatated the width of the mat. 24" x 19" ended up being the optimum size. It's large enough to lay out the parts of a disassembled carbine (as shown below). It's also wide enough to be used as a mini shooting mat to rest your elbows on if you're lying on dirt and rocks. You can also sit on it if the ground is wet (the coated Cordura is pretty water resistant), or even use it to put food on and eat off, instead of in the dirt, or on a rock. But its primary purpose is to keep your disassembled weapon's components out of the dirt. I've found it useful at home, just in case I knock over my bottle of solvent on to the carpet. It'll keep it from soaking through for a few moments and buy time. The edges of the mat are finished with seam tape.

Small parts area - In one corner of the mat near the right pouch is a 6" x 4" area of loop velcro. Supplied are two 3" and two 4" lengths of 1"-wide hook velcro, with sewn-over ends. These are for securing small springs, pins and other small parts to the velcro patch to prevent loss. Place the part on the velcro patch, and stick the velcro strip over it. If the wind catches the mat and blows it over, at least these small parts won't get lost. The velcro strips store on the patch when not in use.

Pouches - The KitMat has two zippered pouches, using YKK zippers and cord pulls. Each one is 9" x 3" x 1", and will open out flat. Inside each pouch are 420D compartments/pockets.
The left pouch has two 4" x 3" compartments, and will fit cleaning patches, most bore brushes and jags, or small solvent/oil bottles. Inside the lid is a long 9" x 3" pouch with velcro-secured flap. This is sized to fit G.I. sectional cleaning rods and commercial pistol cleaning rods. The pockets aren't flap, but are pleated at the corners so they expand.
The right pouch has an identical flapped pocket inside the lid, and a full-length compartment at the bottom. These will hold bolt carriers, boresnakes, toothbrushes, my AR chamber guide, spare parts in plastic baggies etc. Stuff can be stored between the pockets instead of inside them as well. All pockets and compartment openings are designed to be accessed easily when the pouches are opened out flat. All seams are finished with seam tape.

To roll it up, the dirt/sand is shaken off the mat, and the mat is simply folded in half. The dirty side of the cordura is always down or inside, and doesn't dirty the upper surface or pouches when rolled up. When the mat is folded in half, it's rolled around the pouches, then the shock cords are slipped over the ends to keep it from unrolling. It's compact enough to fit in most rifle cases with the rifle, and any range bag or ruck.

I've used the KitMat prototypes over the course of the past few months, tweaking the design, to ensure that it performed as I envisioned. I usually stock it with both a rifle and pistol cleaning kit, essential tools and spare parts for whatever weapon I have with me. I've used it on filthy indoor range lanes tables full of unburnt power particles, in the dirt/sand, as a mat on shooting benches and at home on the floor and table. When it gets too dirty, you can throw it in the wash, or just dunk it in the sink (after emptying its contents of course).

I'm happy to report that it works exactly as I envisioned, and that EMDOM USA did a great job bringing the idea to life, with their typical high quality.>>

Roguish Lawyer
02-25-2007, 10:47
How much are they and where can I get one? Yes, that is an express request for a link, so answering is not improper advertising. :)

NousDefionsDoc
02-25-2007, 10:49
How much are they and where can I get one? Yes, that is an express request for a link, so answering is not improper advertising. :)
You will be able to get them here: http://www.emdomusa.com/ eventually. But not yet. RL, you really need one of these!

vsvo
02-25-2007, 12:19
Nice! Thanks for the review and pics, NDD. Great job, MM and EMDOM.

Peregrino
02-25-2007, 12:51
Now that is worth waiting for (and putting up with the tease :p ). It looks like a great piece of field kit. Good job MM; I'll be getting one as soon as it's available to the general public. My wife's asthma forces me to clean the "toys" outside and my current solutions aren't nearly as elegant. I'm assuming it'll drop into an ammo can with a plus-up range kit? (I clean match rifles differently than I do field guns - hence the ammo can.) The more I see of the Multi-Cam, the more I like it. Peregrino

Kraut783
02-25-2007, 16:44
Simple design, easily packed for work or home. Definately fills a void. Much better than my old Army t-shirt on the coffee table and cumbersome tool kit. Looks great for deployments. Looking forward to the buy. :D

STR8SHTR
02-25-2007, 16:56
Excellent piece of work MM. Very nice review NDD, thanks for sharing. When they become available, I will have to have one for the kit in the patrol vehicle.

Monsoon65
02-25-2007, 18:37
Wow, now that's a real neat, useful piece of gear for anyone that owns a weapon! Like everyone else here, I'll be picking one of these up as soon as they're available.

I also see Christmas gifts for my brother and dad, too.

Thanks to everyone out there that had a hand in this. Great pics and review, MM and NDD!

Roguish Lawyer
02-25-2007, 19:44
You will be able to get them here: http://www.emdomusa.com/ eventually. But not yet. RL, you really need one of these!

OK, send me yours. :D

militarymoron
02-26-2007, 08:47
thanks for all the positive responses, guys - it's much appreciated. i'll be posting my preview (same text as i posted above) with more detailed pics on my site soon, so i'll update my post when i do with a link.
peregrino, yup, it'll fit in a small ammo can.

The Reaper
02-26-2007, 09:40
mm:

MSRP?

TR

militarymoron
02-26-2007, 10:35
TR - MSRP will be $39.99. multicam, coyote and OD green for the first run, projected availability the end of march.

STR8SHTR
02-26-2007, 16:03
MSRP will be $39.99. multicam, coyote and OD green for the first run, projected availability the end of march.

Seems to be reasonable. Thanks MM.

The Reaper
02-26-2007, 17:41
TR - MSRP will be $39.99. multicam, coyote and OD green for the first run, projected availability the end of march.

Thanks, mm.

TR

militarymoron
03-03-2007, 15:15
i've just posted the preview and more pics:
http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/access.html#kitmat

Kraut783
05-14-2007, 16:25
Got mine in the mail today :)

Great kit, looking forward to trying it out.

The Reaper
05-14-2007, 18:14
Mine has worked great.

Only a couple of small suggestions to offer, this was very well thought out.

Great piece of kit.

TR

militarymoron
05-15-2007, 07:45
thanks TR - your feedback is always valuable.