God bless our Australian allies,

[Snaquebite]

they know how to handle these cultists!

got this in an e-mail don't have a link...

Australia Vetoes Construction Of A New Mosque January 8th, 2007 From the Australian:

Canberra vetoes mosque

January 09, 2007

ISLAMIC leaders are demanding an explanation from Foreign Minister Alexander Downer after plans for the Saudi Government to invest in the construction of an Adelaide mosque were vetoed by Canberra.

The Foreign Minister revealed yesterday that the Government objected to a proposal for Saudi cash to be injected into development of the new mosque, which is believed to be located at Park Holme in Adelaide’s southern suburbs.

Mr Downer said federal authorities had also been investigating broad concerns on funding sourced from the Middle East after concerns that mosques could become breeding grounds for extremists.

"Obviously we don’t want to see any extremist organisation penetrate into Australia," he said.

But Ali Vachor, secretary of the Islamic Society of South Australia, which manages the Park Holme mosque, told The Australian the decision had halted construction of the building. Mr Vachor said a "great portion" of funding for the development was being sourced from overseas and had not been approved. "What was required from the overseas party for them to send the money was permission from the Government, the concerned Government to sign a piece of paper," Mr Vachor said.

Construction was halted after the laying of a concrete slab and prayers are being conducted in a recreation room. Mr Vachor said yesterday the Islamic Society of South Australia would seek an urgent meeting with Mr Downer to determine the reasons behind the Government’s decision.

The mosque is the same holy place used by Iraqi Kurd Warya Kanie, who came to Australia as a refugee in 2003 and was granted citizenship two years later. Mr Vachor said Mr Kanie, being held by coalition forces in Iraq, regularly attended the Park Holme mosque. Mr Kanie, 39, told his family in Adelaide that he was going to look for a wife, but he allegedly told a friend that he was leaving Australia "to go on jihad". Mr Kanie was captured by coalition forces in Baghdad in mid-October. He has since been held as a security detainee for allegedly engaging in anti-coalition activities.

"There is a prima facie case apparently, according to the Iraqi authorities and coalition forces there," Mr Downer said.

The Foreign Minister said the Government had discussed funding of mosques in Australia with the Saudi Government "in particular". He said: "This is of course a matter that goes back well before 9/11.

"There has been concern internationally, not specifically to Australia, about some elements in Saudi Arabia which is the heartland of Wahibbism and Sufism … trying to spread that particular extremist interpretation of Islam.

"Historically the Saudi Arabian Government has provided funding (to overseas mosques), I’m not saying there’s anything illegitimate about that … but we can obviously express a view to the Saudi Arabian Government."

Mr Downer said Mr Kanie and the Park Holme mosque’s funding were "not related" to the best of his knowledge.

[Five-O]

The Aussies get it.

[hoot72]

Its a pity but the way muslims in general have reacted to many many issues has led to this in a small way.

I dont think aussies in general, without trying to be racist are comfortable with the muslim "plight" and are not sympathetic to their complaints about how they are treated overseas, especially so after the Bali bombings.

If they want to live, work and be citizens of australia, they need to change and not expect the country to change FOR them!

I wish they would get it thru their friggin thick skulls!

[echoes]

Mods: Sorry this is so long, but IMHO, relevant.
Holly

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia.
This is true and can be checked at:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in
a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to
Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John
Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a
crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard,
hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were
made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country
which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for
you", he said on National Television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another Islamic
law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent
courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to
go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better
option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he
said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the
other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters
that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off.
Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to
live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can
basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some
individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have
experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that
our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do
I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to
Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
"This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only
to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians,
we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own
lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society .. Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right
wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on
Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If
God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is
that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go",
then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.
We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep
your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow
you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take
advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will
find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

[hoot72]

I must agree with their thinking on this; either you accept the values of the country or you leave..you cant go there and expect to change people's perceptions and ideals....its crazy!

They are doing it in the UK and getting away with it, and its rearing its ugly head in france (i could care less about the french anyways) and it seems there is a quiet movement intent on spreading its reach globally..

[AusDigger]

The problem these days in Australia is that the minority is beginning to rule the majority. A few years ago here it wasn't a problem, but since Sept 11 things have been getting worse. The root cause though is the media. They will latch onto anything that challenges the norm, and make a big deal out of it. Thus it gives other people ideas, and the problem just keeps snowballing from there. Frankly if people don't like the Australian way of life there is something wrong with them. Aus is a pretty good place to live. People forget how bad things can get, and how bad things are for many people around the world.

[G]

Hey AusDigger

The amazing thing is that while the media are almost all VERY left leaning, anti-Howard etc... and it sometimes seems as if the minority point of view is the only one we hear, people are not idiots. Through all of the media fed BS, Howard still gets voted in again and again (although I'm not sure of his chances this time).

Was at the soccer on Sunday night; when Howard came up to make the presentations, the crowd booed him. It was embarresing.

Take Care...

G

[Defender968]

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will
find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths !

That's outstanding thanks for posting it! Can you imagine what would happen if a US politician said something like this, they'd be hung, tarred and feathered, and then burned in a public effigy by the liberals and media. It's too bad I think they're on the right track.

[AusDigger]

"The amazing thing is that while the media are almost all VERY left leaning, anti-Howard etc... and it sometimes seems as if the minority point of view is the only one we hear, people are not idiots. Through all of the media fed BS, Howard still gets voted in again and again (although I'm not sure of his chances this time)."

My thoughts exactly, Howard is the best PM Australia has ever had. I could go on forever about Anti-Australia people and anti-war protesters and people that boo the PM, but I won't considering we are all supposed to be on this site learning about SF. I can if you want me too though??