5.11 group buy

[Air.177]

Ok folks you asked for it. I talked to the bossman here this morning about a possible group buy. He told me to get an order together of exactly what we want and he will tell me how much of a deal he can get. He needs the info by 11:30 monday morning, so if you are interested, reply with what you would order (i.e. vest, pants, etc), how many, as well as colors and sizes. Good Day,
Blake

[Smokin Joe]

1. 1 L Tactical Polo Shirt, Black
2. 1 L Short Sleeve Professional Polo, Silver/Tan
3. 2 36wX36L 5.11 Tactical Pants
- 1 Khaki
- 1 Black
4. 1 L Tactical Vest in Black
5. 1 L Mens Tactical Shorts, Khaki


Payment and Address bye PM

[The Reaper]

Thanks, Blake!

Tell the owner we appreciate it.

If the price is right, my starting order would be:

1 Khaki Vest
1 Khaki Trousers
1 Black Trousers
1 Gray Shorts
1 Khaki Shorts
1 Black L/S Shirt
1 Khaki S/S Shirt
2 Polo Shirts, would have to check colors

Sizes on the 5.11 in the local store seem to run small, I would check sizes and get back to you.

TR

[NousDefionsDoc]

This is my duty uniform now and I have a backorder already in that I can cancel. Depending on price:

Pants - black - 36W/34L - 2 ea
Pants - OD - 36W/34L - 2 ea
Polo Shirt - Black - XL - 2 ea
Polo Shirt - Navy - XL - 2 ea
Long sleeve Shirt - Black - XL - 2 ea
Long sleeve shirt - khaki - XL - 2 ea
Vest - OD - XL - 1 ea


Let me know if we come up short on what we need for approval or to drive the price down and I'll recruit.

18Xers - This clothing is what you should wear instead of jeans with holes in them and "Death from Above" T shirts. Very nice casual wear, especially when starched.

[NousDefionsDoc]

http://www.511tactical.com/

Here's the link for sizes and colores.

[ktek01]

Sure, not even an hour after I put in an order for 4 pants, 4 shirts, and 1 vest, you put this up. :mad:

LOL

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by ktek01
Sure, not even an hour after I put in an order for 4 pants, 4 shirts, and 1 vest, you put this up. :mad:

LOL

Cancel it.

To all--

I have not tried one of there shirts...Do you guys find that the L and XL run close to standard (U.S.) L and XL shirts sizes?

I might need to alter my order.

[Air.177]

Let it be known that any further unsolicited modifications of Air.177's Avatar or sigline could jeopardize any pending, current, or future assistance with Group deals on my part.

Have a nice Day

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by Air.177
Let it be known that any further unsolicited modifications of Air.177's Avatar or sigline could jeopardize any pending, current, or future group deals.

Have a nice Day

I'm sure they are petrified by your exclusive worldwide control over group deals. LOL

[NousDefionsDoc]

Originally posted by Smokin Joe
Cancel it.

To all--

I have not tried one of there shirts...Do you guys find that the L and XL run close to standard (U.S.) L and XL shirts sizes?

I might need to alter my order.

I don't have one yet, but have been told to order up one size as they shrink. The pants and vests I have didn't shrink, but we don't use a dryer.

[Air.177]

Thank you for pointing that out, RL

[ktek01]

Originally posted by Smokin Joe
Cancel it.

To all--

I have not tried one of there shirts...Do you guys find that the L and XL run close to standard (U.S.) L and XL shirts sizes?

I might need to alter my order.

I would, but I need this stuff yesterday. I also just got a call from my local dealer after placing an order on her site. She is bending over backwards for me to get this stuff by Tuesday and is even throwing in some freebies. Very nice lady, active LEO, does this on the side but is an authorized 5.11 dealer and she takes good care of the soldiers overseas. She has been sending care packages to Afghanistan and Iraq since this all started, has info on her site about it. I am going to her home tomorrow to pick up what she has in stock.

Oh yeah, she tells me the sizes run slightly large.

[NousDefionsDoc]

Come on ladies, this clothes are omni-sexual! LOL

Nothing hotter than an American female with an American weapon on a range in khaki pants and a "My hubby went to the Q Course and All I got was This Lousy T-Shirt...


and tons of TDY money!

LOL

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Air.177
Let it be known that any further unsolicited modifications of Air.177's Avatar or sigline could jeopardize any pending, current, or future assistance with Group deals on my part.

Have a nice Day

Let it be known that you already have over a $1,000 order.

Also let it be known that the goodness of the deal may affect the return of said sig line and avatar to normalcy.

I am having a mag-freaking-nificent day, as usual, thanks!

To all, the vests seem to me to be a bit small. I am normally an XL, to get one loose enough to allow a concealed belt holster carry, I had to go up one size to an XXL.

TR

[Air.177]

TR-Understood I will give everyone a chance to post their list and will turn in the results on Monday Morning.

[DunbarFC]

I'm doing a 4 day adventure race in late may

I'm looking for some good gear to wear and wonder if this ( esp the shorts ) could be good ?

[NousDefionsDoc]

Yes, you need ten pair for an average race. order now. Here. Right after this post.

[DunbarFC]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Yes, you need ten pair for an average race. order now. Here. Right after this post.

Ten pairs for four days huh ?

You ever sell used cars or time shares ?

Let me look at their site and I'll be back

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by Air.177
TR-Understood I will give everyone a chance to post their list and will turn in the results on Monday Morning.

Air.177,

How do you want this to work b/c I think I will need to modify my order.

Are you going to submit peoples posts as your final list/order or are these (posts) being used as an interest meter of sorts?

Also how do you want payment to happen? Credit Card, Paypal, etc.

psst....btw I wouldn't threaten these guys...I bet they would react very Negatively towards anyone who threatend them:D

[Ambush Master]

Originally posted by Smokin Joe
Air.177,

How do you want this to work b/c I think I will need to modify my order.

Are you going to submit peoples posts as your final list/order or are these (posts) being used as an interest meter of sorts?

Also how do you want payment to happen? Credit Card, Paypal, etc.

psst....btw I wouldn't threaten these guys...I bet they would react very Negatively towards anyone who threatend them:D

As to the psst..., Not to worry, he has me covering his 6 !!

This is an exercize to see how many pieces we can bring together.

Where he works, they do MILLIONS worth yearly.

He's just trying to put together a "Deal" for US !!! I'll be the "Money Front" on this. We'll work out the details once this is finalized. As Bill Eng once told me,.................that's another story.

Take Care
Martin

[NousDefionsDoc]

Thanks Blake and Martin for stepping up on this.

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by Ambush Master
As to the psst..., Not to worry, he has me covering his 6 !!

This is an exercize to see how many pieces we can bring together.

Where he works, they do MILLIONS worth yearly.

He's just trying to put together a "Deal" for US !!! I'll be the "Money Front" on this. We'll work out the details once this is finalized. As Bill Eng once told me,.................that's another story.

Take Care
Martin

Roger that AM.

I appericate it Air and AM.

I have bought from him. Great deals on ammo.

How big do you guys want this to get?....I could always recruit guys at work? I don't know how receptive they would be but quite a few guys wear 5.11 gear all the time I'm sure they would like an "in". But if that could/would jeoprodize the deal then forget I ever brought it up.

[Roguish Lawyer]

What's the minimum order to participate in the group? I wouldn't order much, but I'd get something if it would help.

[NousDefionsDoc]

100

[Roguish Lawyer]

OK, I'm in:

1 tactical pants, navy, 36W/30L
1 tactical shorts, navy, 36W
1 academy shorts, khaki, 36W

These are my normal sizes. If they run small, please increase size as appropriate.

[NousDefionsDoc]

1 academy shorts, khaki, 36W

WTH is an academy shorts?

Don't like big boy pants? LOL

I was surprised you didn't comment on the 100.

[Ambush Master]

Big is the whole idea here. If we put together a $1K order, that isn't shit, but if we come up with a $10K+ that means that they can reduce the price and still make some coin !!!! We will have to work out the delivery side, but this could become a very good, "Periodic" deal.

Later
Martin

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I was surprised you didn't comment on the 100.

I assumed it was $100. Did you mean 100 items? LOL

[NousDefionsDoc]

Just 100 - LOL. Nobody cares how much you order, its the total that counts.

Martin, there are some LBGs down here that will probably wants some stuff as well. I'll ask around.

[Ambush Master]

Go for it, Air is headed this way now and I'll see about this Monday deadline thing. Afterall, this is a Holiday Weekend !!

Later
Martin

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I assumed it was $100. Did you mean 100 items? LOL

As your Samoan attorney, I recommend that you get a vest as well.

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
As your Samoan attorney, I recommend that you get a vest as well.

TR

OK, add a vest. I wear a 42 suit. What size does that translate to?

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
OK, add a vest. I wear a 42 suit. What size does that translate to?

If you are going to pack iron underneath it, an XL.

If you are not a wolf, an L, I would imagine.

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
If you are going to pack iron underneath it, an XL.

If you are not a wolf, an L, I would imagine.

TR

I am a shark, not a wolf. LOL

Let's make mine a Large.

[The Reaper]

I can see your reasoning, as I would imagine that all of the hardware would slow you down while chasing emergency response vehicles.

Damn, you added several hundred posts overnight, I have to get busy reading and see what I missed! Probably all over on the Legal Forum.

TR

[ktek01]

Picked up my 5.11 tactical shirts today, very nice. You guys ordering 5.11 for the first time will not be disappointed. Picked up two LS, two SS, and two polo in medium. Perfect fit, I wear a 42 in sports coats and fall just between medium and large in t-shirts. I get my vest and pants tuesday, ordered a large in the vest since I will be wearing level 4 body armor under it. Also have more shirts coming in tuesday.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Please add to my order the following:

1 more vest - large - khaki
1 more navy tactical pants - 36W/30L

I'm going to give them to Catwoman's dad . . .

[Air.177]

Any Others?

This is just a prelimenary list, so changes aren't a problem.
If you have changes to your list, please just put them in a new post so that AM or I will see them. Unless anyone has anything else in the next few minutes, I will go ahead and check on pricing.
Thanks for the response everyone.
Good Times,
Blake

[Smokin Joe]

Order Update....its the same order I just the sizes of the shirts and vest.



1. 1 XL Tactical Polo Shirt, Black
2. 1 XL Short Sleeve Professional Polo, Silver/Tan
3. 2 36wX36L 5.11 Tactical Pants
- 1 Khaki
- 1 Black
4. 1 XL Tactical Vest in Black
5. 1 L Mens Tactical Shorts, Khaki

[The Reaper]

Good deal alert!!

The Bluewater shorts are on sale on the 5.11 website for $15 per pair (instead of $36), as long as khaki is a good color for you. Shipping is reasonable.

This does not change my order, just wanted to share the deal.

TR

[Air.177]

Now that's the kind of up-to-the-minute Intel that Makes this site great!

[Air.177]

TR has brought to my attention that the vest's bottom 30 rd M4 pockets are backwards for a right handed shooter and that a right handed vest may be available. If you would prefer this version, please specify Right handed vest. Thanks for the Heads up TR

[Smokin Joe]

Please keep mine in the standard config. (for I am left handed) Thx

[NousDefionsDoc]

Here we go again! The vest is not backwards. However, my understanding is the minimum order to get one made backwards is 100. LF.com just tried it and couldn't get enough people to order.

[Air.177]

OK folks, the quantities as posted have been submitted to the powers that be and we should have prices soon. His response when I handed him the list was simply, "DAMN" I suppose he didn't realize I wasn't messin around on this deal!

[Surgicalcric]

Dammit.

If I were not leaving so soon I would place an order as well. Since I seriously doubt I can wear any of it at SFAS, although I may need to start a thread in the ISOFAC for clarification, I guess I will hold off for now.

[Razor]

If you make it through the training, there's life beyond the Q, remember.

[NousDefionsDoc]

And if it you don't make it through the Q, they can bury you in your 5.11s after The Reaper and I get through with you. :boohoo

[Surgicalcric]

Damn, I swear I cant win for losing.

I seem to be running a close second to Sacamuelas here lately.

Saca, pass the salt. This Redwing is a bit bland.

[Sacamuelas]

I'll take the heat off you Crip!! LOL

Three Questions for the knowledgeable:

1- Do the academy or tactical short models have belt loops sufficient for a sturdy leather belt ? From the pics, it looks like it has an elastic waist with no belt loops or very few of them. I carry IWB so I need a pair short that allows for a belt. Suggestions?

2. I assume that a 43 chest coat should order a XL vest if going to carry concealed underneath?

3. Which of the two shorts are longer?

[Air.177]

My shorts are the Tactical type and My Blackhawk 1.75" instructor belt fits just fine. I believe that the Academy shorts are shorter.

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
I'll take the heat off you Crip!! LOL

Three Questions for the knowledgeable:

1- Do the academy or tactical short models have belt loops sufficient for a sturdy leather belt ? From the pics, it looks like it has an elastic waist with no belt loops or very few of them. I carry IWB so I need a pair short that allows for a belt. Suggestions?

2. I assume that a 43 chest coat should order a XL vest if going to carry concealed underneath?

3. Which of the two shorts are longer?

I don't want to get a pair of shorts that look like I was a member of SOLID's favorite 80's group WHAM!!! I gonna have to have FAITH that you guys will tell me the correct information and "wake me up" before I go make a bad decision:p

Crip:

I have spoken with G Company today and they would like for you to report to SFAS in 5.11 tactical shorts and a Polo Shirt. Something about treating you like the pool boy they caught at therir house, or something like that.

Sac:

1. Maybe my eyes are worse than I thought, but every pair I see seem to have belt loops just adjacent to the closing snap. I suspect that they are the same as the tactical pants, and have fewer, but wider loops than regular slacks. I am currently wearing mine with a 1.75" Kramer Horsehide belt holding up my pants and a Para P12 in a Kramer MSP Horsehide holster.

2. You may be GTG with a Large, I am a 46 jacket and need at least an XL, if not a XXL. According to their size chart, you should be in a Large, at the most.

3. If you went to the 511tactical.com web site and did a little research, you would discover that the respective size panels list the Tactical Short at a 9" inseam, and the Bluewater Short at a 6.5" inseam. Assuming that your wife/Mom do not buy all of your clothes for you, which do you think is longer?

Seriously, I would recommend that you look at the web site and visit a local store that carries 5.11 gear and try them on. How far are you from Ft. Polk? There has to be something of value around that place.

TR

[NousDefionsDoc]

Originally posted by Air.177
OK folks, the quantities as posted have been submitted to the powers that be and we should have prices soon. His response when I handed him the list was simply, "DAMN" I suppose he didn't realize I wasn't messin around on this deal!

So he thinks this is a lot of stuff?

[Air.177]

I think he just didn't realize what I meant when I said that I had some friends who wanted to order some 5.11 stuff. My only response was,"Go Big or Go Home"

[Air.177]

OK Prices Minus Shipping are as follows. Shipping will be figured on an individulal basis. Any problems should be addressed to 5.11. I am not able to offer any customer service other than to give out 5.11's contact info.

Vests: $35.00
Pants: $35.00
Shorts: $22.00
Tactical Polos: $24.00
Professional Polo: $28.00
long sleeve shirts: $35.00
Short Sleeve shirt: $30.00

let me know if these will do

[The Reaper]

Go.

You want a CC number, Paypal, what?

TR

[Air.177]

Will advise shortly on payment details

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Go.

You want a CC number, Paypal, what?

TR

Ditto.

Don't you want to do this in the group buy thread?

[Ambush Master]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Ditto.

Don't you want to do this in the group buy thread?

What for that's where it's AT !!! Jeesh get some coffee.

[Smokin Joe]

Good to go Air make the order...and advise on payment when you know.

Thank you for doing this for us!

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by Ambush Master
What for that's where it's AT !!! Jeesh get some coffee.

If I had photoshop, I'd substitute your face for that of SecDef.

[NousDefionsDoc]

Prices look good to me Air.

You just saved me $85.

[Air.177]

RL-It's good to have friends in high places....They can provide more effective covering fire

[Air.177]

OK, Just translated what we want here into 5.11 part numbers and am getting ready to turn the order in. Any last minute changes?
P.S. I have been told that we can accept multiple credit cards, so if that's how you want to do it, PM AM or I with Info. If you need another option, PM me and we'll work something out. I should see the order here about a week after I place it and Shipment from here will probably be VIA FEDEX unless you require otherwise. Also, I am in the process of adding up everyone's individual total Minus shipping so you know what the damage is.

Good Times
Blake

[Ambush Master]

All Major Credit Cards accepted, Please provide the following info :

Name as it appears on card
Card Number
Expiration Date
Type of card (Amex, Visa, Mastercard, etc.)
address to be shipped to

Take care.
Martin


Also, The Total that Air.177 will give you for the Credit Card Charges will not include shipping. I will be handling that and will PM each of you with the instructions for that at the time of shipment. Any questions, give me a shout via PM and I can explain further.

[Ambush Master]

For anyone that does not want to do the Credit Card thing, PM me, and we will work out a payment by Check or Money Order.

Take Care.
Martin

[NousDefionsDoc]

Hootey Hoo!

Air,
Just wanted to say thanks for getting this stuff to me so fast! Really good job. Just what I needed too. Sizes and everything are perfect.

[Air.177]

AHA! He has showed back up just long enough to stir the Shit Pot. I have seen this very Technique for initiating trouble work on Lesser sites. NO, THE ORDER IS NOT HERE YET. those of you who placed orders will be notified as soon as I know something of it's fate. NDD, While you are adding names to your list, you may put the 5.11 guys right up there as the order is in their hands now, and unfortunately Giving me an unholy amount of shit will not make it get here any faster. I can and do badger the boss every day about this. Remember folks, I have stuff in that order too and if I could Just say,"Hootey Hoo!" and get it here, I would've already.

Hallelujah, Holy Shit, Where's the Motrin?!!

That is all

[NousDefionsDoc]

LOL - note to self, don't use same psypopper tactics on two boards with so many cross members.

ol' boy must've gotten about 1,000 emails over those boots. LOL

Just funnin' ya Junior. Hey! does that make you an l (lower case L) ambush?

Jeez but I do crack myself up.

[The Reaper]

NDD:

That boy is sharp, got a good sense of humor about everything but his Sock Monkey.

TR

[NousDefionsDoc]

LOl - I got a feeling the Sock Monkey is going to be PS.com legend in years to come.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally posted by The Reaper
NDD:

That boy is sharp, got a good sense of humor about everything but his Sock Monkey.

TR

LOL, I'm not surprised. We know who his mentor is......

[Roguish Lawyer]

Well, you had me going for a second, NDD!

Nice awareness, Air. :)

[Maya]

Those are great prices. I assume that I am too late. That's what I get for being too busy for the good stuff and spend all of my time just working, way too late too.

If there is going to be another but please let me know, or if it's not too late I need the Med. Vest, OD green, pants 34-30(short) OD Green as well. Just hoping.

Thanks Maya

[Air.177]

Maya-It is too late on this order. Depending on the outcome of this order, there could be more in the future.

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Maya
Those are great prices. I assume that I am too late. That's what I get for being too busy for the good stuff and spend all of my time just working, way too late too.

If there is going to be another but please let me know, or if it's not too late I need the Med. Vest, OD green, pants 34-30(short) OD Green as well. Just hoping.

Thanks Maya

You snooze, you lose. :D

Check in here more often!

TR

[Maya]

Thanks for the quick response. I had a felling I was too late but at 2 in the morning reality is not quite ingaged. Please let me know about future orders as I need a bunch of smaller pants, the diet is working.

Maya

[Roguish Lawyer]

I just want to thank Ambush Master and Air.177 for their hard work in making this happen. I think I speak for everyone in saying that this is most appreciated.

[Smokin Joe]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I just want to thank Ambush Master and Air.177 for their hard work in making this happen. I think I speak for everyone in saying that this is most appreciated.

Agreed, thank you both very much for your hard work.

[Air.177]

This past weekend, I found out that 5.11 also has great customer service. I fell and ripped the crotch out of a brand new pair of 5.11 pants, the second time I wore them. Last Monday, I called 5.11 customer service and explained what had happened and all they asked was what size, color, and where I would like the replacements shipped. I had the pants in hand by thursday afternoon as well as a new 5.11 hat. When I asked them if they wanted the torn pants back, their response was just a simple,"No." Glad these folks stand by their products.

[Solid]

Jeez, in this country you need to take the CEO hostage to even get them to contemplate replacing damaged goods!

Solid

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I just want to thank Ambush Master and Air.177 for their hard work in making this happen. I think I speak for everyone in saying that this is most appreciated.

I agree, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't the only one who had received theirs!

Hey, RL, was your Samoan Attorney correct when he told you that you would like this stuff?

Kudos to Air .177 and AM. You guys are the TEAM!

TR

[magician]

goddamn it.

I am politely requesting an engraved invitation the next time you guys put a deal like this together.

I also need two pairs of desert boots.

Getting ready to head back to the sandbox for a short-term gig, I think.

Thank you for your cooperation.

:)

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by magician
I also need two pairs of desert boots.

:)

Steve:

Best deal I have seen going on the Desert Boots is at the Wellco store here in town, if you know your size.

I got a pair of seconds from them and they are as comfortable as bedroom slippers.

Need contact info for them?

TR

[magician]

Tony, can they ship to an APO?

A size 10W should do it. Are these the issue versions? Those would be fine. Nothing fancy needed....unless you guys have a lead on the desert version of the Oakleys. I tried a pair of the standard black versions here at the Oakley store in the Emporium shopping center downtown, but the help just looked at me like I was a crazy farang when I asked for a wide size.

[The Reaper]

Steve:

I suspect that they can. If not, I could pick up a couple of pair and send them, or one pair first to be sure that is what you want and is the right size. They take charge cards, let me know if you need their name, number, address, etc.

They are the issue versions, IIRC, seconds were around $50, firsts were $60-$70.

I thought you were a crazy farang?

TR

[magician]

TR: PM on the way.

Thanks.

[brownapple]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Steve:

I thought you were a crazy farang?

TR

Chai, krup. Khao farang ba, jing jing krup. :D

[magician]

yeah, yeah, jing, fucking jing.

it is true.

:)

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Hey, RL, was your Samoan Attorney correct when he told you that you would like this stuff?

Has my Samoan Attorney ever been wrong?

Just unwrapped the stuff last night. It is being washed today, and I'll wear some of it shortly and report back. The vest definitely is cool, and I am glad I ordered it.

Now I guess I'll need to get stuff to go in all the pockets, right? LOL

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Has my Samoan Attorney ever been wrong?

Just unwrapped the stuff last night. It is being washed today, and I'll wear some of it shortly and report back. The vest definitely is cool, and I am glad I ordered it.

Now I guess I'll need to get stuff to go in all the pockets, right? LOL

Very comfortable gear. I especially like the long and short sleeve shirts, which I had not worn before. Lots of cool features.

Vest is for carrying civilian second line gear. Cell phone, Surefire light, OC spray, ASP baton, PDA, multi-tool, firearms (if legal) and spare ammo, beverages in the left and right back pockets (holds 1 l. Nalgene bottles very nicely), survival or med kits, glasses, etc.

Glad that you approve. :D

TR

[Air.177]

I have found that the Collapsible 32oz. Nalgene Cantenes fit in the vest pockets quite well also.

[Roguish Lawyer]

What is the purpose of the "utility strap" above the back pocket? Or the uses you've made of it?

[Ambush Master]

These pants were originally designed for climbers. The web is for hanging Carabiners on.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by Ambush Master
These pants were originally designed for climbers. The web is for hanging Carabiners on.

Ah . . . . makes sense.

[NousDefionsDoc]

Works good for a holster too.

[Footmobile]

Originally posted by Ambush Master
These pants were originally designed for climbers. The web is for hanging Carabiners on.

For those of you who don't know...

Royal Robbins (the man who started the company) is a famous rock climber from the 50's-60's who developed alot of the trad climbing methods used today. He made the first ascents of many famous routes here in the US and overseas, to include the first free ascent of Half Dome in Yosemite.

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I'll wear some of it shortly and report back.

I wore the pants to work today. LOL

They are very comfortable, but the pockets take some getting used to. I am used to putting my wallet in my back pocket, but it rests against the back of my thigh in these pants!

With all these pockets, I definitely am going to need more gear.

[NousDefionsDoc]

With all these pockets, I definitely am going to need more gear.

LOL - and so it begins...

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I wore the pants to work today. LOL

They are very comfortable, but the pockets take some getting used to. I am used to putting my wallet in my back pocket, but it rests against the back of my thigh in these pants!

With all these pockets, I definitely am going to need more gear.

As an attorney, I am surprised that you carry a wallet.

I though you guys just took whoever's was closest for walking around money, and had an armored car carry the real bucks.

Seriously, I carry a Credit card wallet in a front pocket, and my larger wallet in a cargo pocket.

TR

[DanUCSB]

Q: How can you tell when it's -really- cold outside?



A: You go out and see a lawyer walking around with his hands in his -own- pockets.

:D

[NousDefionsDoc]

ROTFLMAO at Reaper and Dan.

[eggroll]

Whats the latest on this?

I am in the market for 50 x 33 or unhemmed, in OD and Khaki.

I'll be attending a tactics and carbine course at the end of this month.

EGG

[Air.177]

The order has already been delivered. Any new order will be posted in a New thread.

[Roguish Lawyer]

I am not crazy about the velcro.

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I am not crazy about the velcro.

What Velcro?

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
What Velcro?

TR

The velcro on the pockets of the shorts and the pants, but especially the shorts. Doesn't close so well, and seems like it will wear very quickly.

Not a big deal, but I think I'd prefer something other than velcro.

[Guy]

Originally posted by eggroll
I am in the market for 50 x 33 or unhemmed, in OD and Khaki.


LOL...either your legs are long or your belly is big...which one is it? :D

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
The velcro on the pockets of the shorts and the pants, but especially the shorts. Doesn't close so well, and seems like it will wear very quickly.

Not a big deal, but I think I'd prefer something other than velcro.

Got some two years old, fabric starting to wear through, Velcro still holding on.

Never seen a lawyer take out a wallet, though, how do you plan to wear the Velcro out?

TR

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Never seen a lawyer take out a wallet, though, how do you plan to wear the Velcro out?

TR

I steal the wallets of others, remember?

My kids will work the velcro. Sand, ice cream drippings and snot. LOL

[DanUCSB]

Originally posted by The Reaper
Never seen a lawyer take out a wallet, though, how do you plan to wear the Velcro out?

Lawyers do take their wallets out... where do you think they keep those corporate gold cards for those three martini lunches at Morton's? :D

[The Reaper]

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I steal the wallets of others, remember?

My kids will work the velcro. Sand, ice cream drippings and snot. LOL

Add weapons cleaning solvents and lubes, dirt, blood, diesel, etc., and you have an SF comparison.

TR