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BMT (RIP)
11-12-2006, 10:39
A second part of our strategy is to ask the military to perform missions that are more appropriate for other branches of government.

Our Army and Marine Corps are taking the lead in such projects as building roads and sewage treatment plants, establishing schools, training a neutral judiciary, and developing a modern banking system. The press refers to these activities as nation-building. Our soldiers and Marines are neither equipped nor trained to do these things. They attempt them, and in general they succeed, because they are so committed and so obedient. But it is not what they do well and what only they alone can do.

But I would ask, where are our Department of Energy and Department of Transportation in restoring Iraqi infrastructure? What's the role of our Department of Education in rebuilding an Iraqi educational system? What does our Department of Justice do to help stand up an impartial judicial system? Where is the US Information Agency in establishing a modern equivalent of Radio Free Europe? And why did it take a year after the end of the active fighting for the State Department to assume responsibility from the Department of Defense in setting up an Iraqi government? These other US government agencies are only peripherally and secondarily involved in Iraq.

Actually, it would be inaccurate to say that the American government is at war. The U.S. Army is at war. The Marine Corps is at war. And other small elements of our armed forces are at war. But our government is not.

A third part of our strategy is to inconvenience the American people as little as possible.

Ask yourself, are you at war? What tangible effect is this war having on your daily life? What sacrifices have you been asked to make for the sake of this war other than being inconvenienced at airports? No, America is not a war. Only a small number of young, brave, patriotic men and women, who bear the burden of fighting and dying, are at war.

A fourth aspect of our strategy is to fund Navy and Air Force budgets at prewar levels while shortchanging the Marine Corps and the Army that are doing the fighting.

This strategy, of spending billions on technology for a Navy and Air Force that face no threat, contributes mightily to our failures in Iraq.

Secretary Rumsfeld is a former Navy pilot. His view of the battlefield is from 10,000 feet, antiseptic and surgical. Since coming into office he has funded the Air Force and the Navy at the expense of the Army and Marines because he believes technological leaps we’ll render ground forces obsolete. He assumed that the rapid victory over the Taliban in Afghanistan confirmed this belief.

For example, the Defense Department is pouring billions into buying the newest fighter aircraft, at $360 million each, to take on a non-existent enemy Air Force.

But, for pilots like Rumsfeld, war is all about technology. It’s computers, it’s radar, and it’s high tech weapons. Technologists have a hard time comprehending the motivations of a suicide bomber or a mother who celebrates the death of her son in such a way. It's difficult for them to understand that to overcome centuries of ethnic hatred and murder it will take more than one generation. It's hard for them to accept that for young men with little education, no wives or children, and few job prospects, war against the West is the only thing that gives meaning to their lives.

But war on the ground is not conducted with technology. It is fought by 25-year-old sergeants leading 19-year-old soldiers carrying rifles, in a dangerous and alien environment, where you can't tell combatants from noncombatants, Shiites from Sunnis, or suicide bombers from freedom seeking Iraqis. This means war on the street is neither antiseptic nor surgical. It's dirty, complicated, and fraught with confusion and error.

In essence, our strategy has been produced my men whose view of war is based on their understanding of technology and machinery, not their knowledge of men from an alien culture and the forces which motivate them. They fail to appreciate that if you want to hold and pacify a hostile land and a hostile people you need soldiers and Marines on the ground and in the mud, and lots of them.

In summary, our flawed strategy in Iraq has produced the situation we now face. This strategy is a product of the Pentagon, not the White House. And remember, the Pentagon is run by civilian appointees in suits, not military men and women in uniform. From the very beginning Defense Department officials failed to appreciate what it would take to win this war.

The US military has tried to support this strategy because they are trained and instructed to be subordinate to and obedient to civilian leadership. And the American people want it that way. The last thing you want is a uniformed military accustomed to debating in public the orders of their appointed civilian masters. But retired generals and admirals are starting to speak out, to criticize the strategy that has produced our current situation in Iraq.

But, if we continue to fight the war on the cheap, if we continue to avoid involving the American people by asking them to make any sacrifice at all, if we continue to spend our dollars on technology while neglecting the soldiers and Marines on the ground, and if we fail to involve the full scope of the American government in rebuilding Iraq, then we might as well quit, and come home. But, what we have now is not a real strategy – it’s business as usual.

:munchin


BMT

mugwump
11-12-2006, 10:56
A third part of our strategy is to inconvenience the American people as little as possible.

Ask yourself, are you at war? What tangible effect is this war having on your daily life? What sacrifices have you been asked to make for the sake of this war other than being inconvenienced at airports? No, America is not a war. Only a small number of young, brave, patriotic men and women, who bear the burden of fighting and dying, are at war.



As a civilian, this part really sticks in my craw.

Among the many mistakes of the Bush Presidency in the conduct of this war, this one ranks high in my view. We civilians should have been challenged to cut our use of imported oil by 15%. We should have been challenged to do more for the young men and women who return shattered by the war. There should have been some real sacrifice made by us.

When I bring this up to my friends and acquaintances in the military they always object: "We are fighting for the American way of life; that should stay the same."

Razor
11-12-2006, 14:13
"We are fighting..."? Perhaps you may want to point out, Mug, that 'they' aren't doing anything.

Pete
11-12-2006, 14:30
...... We civilians should have been challenged to cut our use of imported oil by 15%. ......


We civilians should have been allowed to drill 50% more domestic oil. Both on land and off shore.

But then again, some "Americans" would rather weaken the US because they hate it so. Some "EVIL" corporation might make a little money for it's stockholders. Some Peon might be able to fill up an "EVIL" SUV when they should be taking public transportation.

mugwump
11-12-2006, 15:59
"We are fighting..."? Perhaps you may want to point out, Mug, that 'they' aren't doing anything.

No, no -- I wasn't clear. It's the guys in Iraq and A'stan who are saying this. They say it's their sacrifice to make. I say it's the least we could do.

Trust me, I do a lot of "pointing out."

bost1751
11-12-2006, 17:05
BMT: that was very well thought out and very true. The poor guy on the ground is perhaps the most unappreciated critter on the face of the earth. Give him a table spoon, tell him to go forth, conquer and do great things and he will. The other ones far from the danger, noise, blood, guts, etc, have always been spoiled and treated better than the proud "kid" on the ground. Just something as simple as brushing your teath daily is taken for granted. The boys on the ground may go days without ever brushing their teeth for a multitude of reasons.

It may have been the appropriate way to fund things years ago in conflicts fought a completely differant way than those we have been engaged in more recent years. Today there are no front lines, no disquinishable enemy, fanatics ringed with demo set to go at any time. There is no rear area to relax in. Is naval gunfire going to help much in this type of envirnoment? What about the more technologically advanced aircraft? Are they going to have the ability identify friend or foe on the ground?

I think we need to continue with technological advancements for obvious reasons. However, at the present I too believe we need to make adjustments to the funding for the branches of services. The boys on the ground need everything we can possiblly give them, to include more bodies to help them if necessary.

Where does special ops stand in this? I'll bet the boys in Hurlburt are not missing a dime. For the majority of my 20+ years we seemed to suck hind tit, but still accomplished what was expected of us. I have been out for several years now and am curious how SF's funding has been during this boxing match. It seems SF is not getting the support and maybe the credit they have earned and will continue to earn. I believe in the quiet professional, I also think they should be credited with their accomplishments.

I enjoyed the strategy article you posted.

x SF med
11-12-2006, 18:20
BMT=
Outstanding job with the post. I agree fully that we should reduce our need for foreign oil, and that our front line troops seem to get the dirty end of the stick when it comes to funding - ground pounders aren't the sexy Top Gun high visibility ego maniacs of the Air Force and Navy (no offense AF & USN guys, but the average sailor on a ship or airbase has it 5000 times better than a grunt in the field or an FOB).

brownapple
11-12-2006, 18:43
But I would ask, where are our Department of Energy and Department of Transportation in restoring Iraqi infrastructure? What's the role of our Department of Education in rebuilding an Iraqi educational system? What does our Department of Justice do to help stand up an impartial judicial system? Where is the US Information Agency in establishing a modern equivalent of Radio Free Europe? And why did it take a year after the end of the active fighting for the State Department to assume responsibility from the Department of Defense in setting up an Iraqi government? These other US government agencies are only peripherally and secondarily involved in Iraq.



But...but...but...it's dangerous in Iraq...

(sarcasm intended).

Steel on target, BMT

Jack Moroney (RIP)
11-12-2006, 19:49
But retired generals and admirals are starting to speak out, to criticize the strategy that has produced our current situation in Iraq.


BMT

When Scot Crerar sent me this entire post that you quoted from Mitchell Zais's address at the honor's convocation at Newberry College I highlighted this one sentence in his address and made a few remarks to him about the lack of moral courage by these same flag officers when they were on active duty to go toe to toe with the suits to address these very issues. He reminded me that when he was playing his part in the creation of the SF branch no GO actually stood up and supported us, but a couple encouraged the action behind closed doors. Since then he has attended serveral seminars where three GOs, who had been asked to support that move and did not, have claimed to be instrumental in standing up the program. So the long and the short of this post is that this is nothing new and falls within the category of a blinding flash of the obvious. While we can hammer away at this all day long, the other crime here is that those whose job it is to define our vital national interests failed to do so and no one, suit or military, can develop the correct strategy if the vital interests are not properly defined and not just for Iraq and Afghanistan but for the entire region. Just an opinion.

incommin
11-13-2006, 06:35
There was a strategy for everything.......shock and awe!

Technology was going to take care of everything......... someone forgot that it is boot on the ground that takes care of everything!

Jim

Bill Harsey
11-13-2006, 08:12
BMT,
Sometimes all it takes for the enemy to defeat technology is not participate in it. OBL is an example of this.


Well written Sir.

Karl.Masters
11-13-2006, 19:13
A fourth aspect of our strategy is to fund Navy and Air Force budgets at prewar levels while shortchanging the Marine Corps and the Army that are doing the fighting.

This strategy, of spending billions on technology for a Navy and Air Force that face no threat, contributes mightily to our failures in Iraq.

For example, the Defense Department is pouring billions into buying the newest fighter aircraft, at $360 million each, to take on a non-existent enemy Air Force.

The US military has tried to support this strategy because they are trained and instructed to be subordinate to and obedient to civilian leadership. And the American people want it that way. The last thing you want is a uniformed military accustomed to debating in public the orders of their appointed civilian masters.

But, if we continue to fight the war on the cheap, if we continue to avoid involving the American people by asking them to make any sacrifice at all, if we continue to spend our dollars on technology while neglecting the soldiers and Marines on the ground, and if we fail to involve the full scope of the American government in rebuilding Iraq, then we might as well quit, and come home. But, what we have now is not a real strategy – it’s business as usual.

:munchin


BMT

Business as usual?

A General Officer that I have great respect for recently distinguished himself by failing to submit the Army Program Objective Memorandum (POM).

This General Officer reasoned that if an Army POM was submitted, that would mean that the Army was signing up to executing the Army mission at the PRESBUD level of funding.

The General Officer is the Chief of Staff of the Army and he determined that the Army's mission was not executable without the additional funding -$17B worth- to reset the force and conduct repairs/maintenance needed to continue to execute multi-theater combat operations at current OPTEMPO that Zais alludes to in his remarks.

I can therefore count at least one active duty GO that was not drinking the SECDEF's Cold War budget Kool Aide, and who had the honor, courage, and integrity to back up his analysis with action - which in this case, was no action.

All that in spite of being "trained and instructed to be subordinate to and obedient to civilian leadership".

My .02 is that Soldiers, the institution of the Army, and the nation are well served by this particular "Soldier that happens to be an officer" as COL M has eloquently described those with unfaltering dedication to the mission.

Karl