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I making this Thread on United Airlines Flight 93 because with it all in the news. I have a 8 Y/o son asking questions about it, many why did they make a movie about it. He and his sister both know of 9/11 and the Twin Tower; "the day planes flow into the big buildings". So I thought of a Thread...
From what can tell, this movie handles the many different emotions it brings to the surface in a professional and technically proficient way. You basically sit in the plane with the heroes of that day on that flight. You watch it unfold from the perspectives of the flight controllers, NORAD, Flight Crew, and feel the confusion, the torment, and ultimately, the victory in the end.
I personally can't wait to sit and watch this film.
Points made over the film I hread so far:
The families gave their consent. They're fine with it.
Makes it any less than exploitation of a horribly tragic event for monetary gain?
Have you forgotten? Not Us - But America?
God Bless America
Kyobanim
04-27-2006, 11:48
9-11 movie should be seen, hero's father says
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-a2story2706apr27,0,291027.story?coll=orl-home-promo
from the Orlando Sentinel . . .
Jerry Bingham understands how painful it may be for Americans to watch United 93.
It was especially agonizing for the Wildwood retiree, who saw the Universal Pictures movie twice in New York City this week prior to its nationwide release Friday.
His son Mark Bingham, 31, was among the passengers who fought back against the terrorists who hijacked the United Airlines plane Sept. 11, 2001. The plane crashed in Shanksville, Pa.
"I cried like everyone else," Bingham said. "The end is the hardest part to take."
Bingham, 63, said the country needs to see how his son and 39 other heroes on board prevented the plane from hitting its intended target, possibly in Washington, D.C.
"It's not all that glitz and glamour of Hollywood," Bingham said. "It's a true tell-it-like-it-is story."
Bingham and his wife, Karen, 55, returned Wednesday to Central Florida from New York, where they attended the premiere Tuesday night at the Tribeca Film Festival. On Monday, family members of those who perished viewed the movie, written and directed by Paul Greengrass, at a private showing.
"They got it pretty accurate," Bingham said. "It's not about any one person. It's about 40 people."
Dressed in a new black suit with pinstripes, Bingham walked the red carpet at the film festival created by Robert De Niro and others in 2002 in an effort to revitalize lower Manhattan after 9-11.
Mark Bingham's mother, Alice Hoglan, of Los Gatos, Calif., and his aunt also attended.
Now that Bingham has seen United 93 he can exhale a sigh of relief knowing that filmmakers have honored the victims. It was during last year's Sept. 11 remembrance in Shanksville that Bingham heard about the movie from producers Lloyd Levin and Kate Solomon.
Solomon traveled to Wildwood a few weeks later to talk to Jerry Bingham about his son. The two sat in the 18-by-26-foot room Bingham built in 2002 to hold pictures, flags and other displays in honor of his son, a public-relations executive who grew up in Boca Raton and California.
He told her stories about Mark, a 6-foot-5 University of California, Berkeley graduate who once tackled the Stanford University mascot -- a tree -- at a game.
Movie officials sent periodic updates on the two-month long filming, which took place in London.
Cheyenne Jackson, the actor playing Mark Bingham, contacted Jerry Bingham in December. Jackson, a 6-foot-3 Broadway actor who lived in Seattle on 9-11, wanted to learn more about the man he was playing.
"I've never been asked to play a real person before," Jackson said. "I was nervous."
He read everything he could find about him -- "every article and every e-mail and every forum posted on his Web site," Jackson said.
Earlier this week, the actor met Jerry Bingham for lunch in a deli in midtown Manhattan.
"It was kind of surreal," Bingham said. "He has a lot of Mark's mannerisms. . . . He did a wonderful job."
Bingham will encourage people to go see the movie and plans to refocus on working with other families in getting a Flight 93 memorial built in Shanksville. Ten percent of box-office revenue collected from the first three days of the movie's release will go toward the memorial.
"It was time," Bingham said of the movie. "We can handle it. We lived through Sept. 11, didn't we?"
DunbarFC
04-27-2006, 11:49
I plan on going to see it
A friend of mine lost his wife on Flight 11 and he plans on going to see it as well
I think most Americans have forgotten what really happened on 9/11 and how we all felt that day
If this movie serves to remind us then all the better
Here's NORAD's latest information on the film:
Recently, NORAD and the Air Force participated on a film titled "United 93" for Universal Studios, which premiered last evening during the Tribeca Film Festival in midtown New York City. Because of NORAD's participation with Universal Studios on the film and in light of the premier, we are providing the following talking points as information and for your situational awareness. All media queries regarding NORAD's participation should be referred to the On-Call Public Affairs Officer at 719-330-5169. Thank you.
TALKING POINTS ON THE FILM "UNITED 93"
1. The film offered NORAD, the United States Air Force and DoD the opportunity to inform the public by increasing the realism and historical authenticity of the military depictions by helping to dispel some of the conspiracy theories and other misinformation about the tragic events of 9/11, particularly as they involve the military and United Flight 93.
2. The film reminds viewers that many of the terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks are still at large and that the terrorist threat is still endangering innocent people around the globe.
Additionally, the film honors the courage and sacrifice of the passengers of United 93 who were, after all, the first Americans to stand up to Al Qaeda and the terrorists who struck America on September 11, 2001.
They were not military members – they were ordinary citizens in an extraordinary situation: They figured out for themselves what was going on; they knew that the World Trade Center and the Pentagon had been struck.
They defeated the terrorists’ plan to strike their intended target – likely the U.S. Capitol. They gave their lives to save the lives of countless others and preserved a great symbol of democracy for the United States and the world.
The Air Force, NORAD and the Department of Defense were honored to help tell their story.
4. September 11, 2001 was perhaps the most historically significant day of our generation. It changed the lives of millions of Americans, and continues to affect us today. Based on assurances from the production company that they were striving to make a film that was as accurate as possible, NORAD, the Air Force and DoD agreed to provide records, information, technical assistance and casting support for extras.
5. Family members of everyone aboard United 93 cooperated with the production. A researcher from the production company spent several months interviewing family members – all of whom supported the movie.
6. The documentary nature of the film was a key aspect in the collective decision to support. We also knew that it would be the first major movie about the events of September 11, 2001, and we wanted to ensure that Universal's portrayal of NORAD, the Air Force and DoD was as accurate as possible.
7. The Global War on Terror has been going on now for nearly five years. It is important for our military members – and all Americans – to understand why we fight. There’s a key line in the film when the air traffic controllers are trying to figure out what’s going on. After some initial thoughts that a “small plane” had accidentally crashed into the WTC, one of the controllers proclaims: “…someone is at war with us.”* Nearly five years later, they still are.
8. When historians look back, they will see that the fight against Al Qaeda did not begin in Afghanistan – it began over the skies of Shanksville, Pennsylvania, aboard United 93. They set the example. That’s why we felt compelled and honored to support this film.
This might sound corny, but I want to see this film for the above reasons and one personal. I was in Highschool when it happened, in chapel actually. These men and women were the first (civilian) responders to the Islamofascists in this war. They knew the odds and what was happening and said, 'Fuck you, we're not taking it and we're not going down on our knees!' They are heroes who will live on forever as true Americans. God bless them and their families.
ghuinness
04-28-2006, 19:57
Local radio station organized a private viewing tonight. Everyone needs to see it.
4. September 11, 2001 was perhaps the most historically significant day of our generation. It changed the lives of millions of Americans, and continues to affect us today. Based on assurances from the production company that they were striving to make a film that was as accurate as possible, NORAD, the Air Force and DoD agreed to provide records, information, technical assistance and casting support for extras.
8. When historians look back, they will see that the fight against Al Qaeda did not begin in Afghanistan – it began over the skies of Shanksville, Pennsylvania, aboard United 93. They set the example. That’s why we felt compelled and honored to support this film. [/i]
Very well said.
Doc
8. When historians look back, they will see that the fight against Al Qaeda did not begin in Afghanistan – it began over the skies of Shanksville, Pennsylvania, aboard United 93. They set the example. That’s why we felt compelled and honored to support this film. [/i]
Amen and well said Razor
The paragraphs in italics aren't my words; those are the talking points released by the NORAD/NORTHCOM PAO about the film. I admit when I first saw previews for the movie on TV I figured it was going to be a standard Hollywood perversion of the truth to make money off the sacrifices of those folks on the flight. After reading the N-NC release and learning DoD not only worked with the film leadership but endorsed the movie after a pre-screening, I'm willing to open my mind a bit and perhaps go see the film. Good job, PAO.
Sweetbriar
04-29-2006, 18:37
The "Hollywood" effect on the movie is profoundly restrained. I only recognised two of the actors from previous productions. Everyone, and I mean every single person/character, is treated very simply and straightforward in their characterization. No clichés, but rather the people you've flown or worked with all your life. I'm sure there are flaws, but it is a benchmark film and I'm glad it was the first made for theatre production.
Risk the pain, go see it.
I saw it last friday here in NYC.
Hands down the most powerful movie I've ever seen.
Hollywood could have messed it up a million different ways, but no, it was perfect.
The last shot before the credits will stay with me forever.
I saw it yesterday afternoon, on what was one of the nicest days of the year it was a packed theatre. At the end credits there was not a dry eye in the house, mine included. It was by far the most powerful movie that I've ever seen. Some of the actors were the actual people who participated in the actions of 9/11 such as Ben Sliney who was in charge of the FAA at that point in time. There was none of the typical hollywood glitz and glamour, you feel like you're just dropped into a normal day, no backstory, nothing. The camera angles make you feel like you're a part of the action. All in all I give it 6 stars out of 5. The most powerful movie that I've ever seen.
I just got back from seeing it.
I have to admit, I could barely stand to watch at times, it was so intense. People looked a little stunned walking out of the theater, like they just got out of a time machine and suddenly remembered what that day felt like.
Hollywood came through for us on this one.
This movie was tasteful, well done, and painful to watch. A torrent of thoughts reflecting on this film has left me with a case of writers block and little to add to this thread. George Will, always a man of greater words then I, spells it out pretty good (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/05/we_are_all_at_the_wars_front.html):
Going to see ``United 93'' is a civic duty because Samuel Johnson was right: People more often need to be reminded than informed. After an astonishing 56 months without a second terrorist attack, this nation perhaps has become dangerously immune to astonishment. The movie may quicken our appreciation of the measures and successes -- many of which must remain secret -- that have kept would-be killers at bay.
The hinge on which the movie turns are 13 words that a passenger speaks, without histrionics, as he and others prepare to rush the cockpit, shortly before the plane plunges into a Pennsylvania field. The words are: ``No one is going to help us. We've got to do it ourselves.'' Those words not only summarize this nation's situation in today's war, but also express a citizen's general responsibilities in a free society.
I haven't seen it yet, but definitely will. Will need to take out some cash first.
Martin
I haven't seen it yet, but definitely will. Will need to take out some cash first.
Martin
You're speaking in code again, Martin. Please switch to English. ;)
Well, I did some statistics back in the day and found that for the most part of time I did better in not speaking at all. :)
I read english, you just need to read code too. Doesn't matter if you create it after the fact. ;)
Martin
The Bonus
05-07-2006, 21:18
Just got back from this movie. VERY Intense. As a sidenote, the writers did their homework from a technical standpoint. One of the better movies I've paid money for in a long time.
Just saw the movie on Saturday. It was the most dramatic movie I've watched in some time. On Sunday I was watching the last part of Inside the Actor's Studio whose guest was Tom Hanks. He was fielding a question from a normal looking actor who was wondering if he the student had chosen the right field as he was no Brad Pitt in appearance.
Tom went on to tell him not to worry about it. As an example he talked about United 93 which had no well known actors in it, but he thought the acting was fantastic. He went on to say that United 93 was the "Most important movie made in the last ten years and that every American should go see it."
You could have knocked me over with a feather. No wonder Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers were such a good products.
Glad to hear that people I trust like the movie. Going to see it this weekend.
Just saw the movie on Saturday with wife. The movie was great, it is a powerfull and dramatic movie. Both my wife and I that it was a very well made. Like it has been stated here, everyone within the producetion did a very well good with everything on it. I like the fact that they didn't go for the blood and guts side, when it comes out on DVD I sit my kids down to watch it.