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Roguish Lawyer
03-21-2004, 22:01
-- Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin has been killed in an apparent Israeli attack on his car, Palestinian sources tell CNN. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com for the latest news.
[this is a "breaking news" e-mail I received just now]
CPTAUSRET
03-21-2004, 22:16
Good riddance!
Terry
Roguish Lawyer
03-21-2004, 22:29
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/index.html
Palestinians: Hamas founder killed in airstrike
Car hit by rockets as Yassin left mosque
Sunday, March 21, 2004 Posted: 11:27 PM EST (0427 GMT)
(CNN) -- Hamas founder and spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin was killed in an apparent airstrike by Israeli forces Monday morning as he was being driven from a mosque, Hamas and Palestinian security sources told CNN.
Five others were killed in the strike, sources said.
Yassin's car and the cars carrying his bodyguards were hit by three rockets as they left the mosque after prayers.
Thousands of angry Palestinians gathered around his minutes after the attack, calling for revenge against Israel.
In September, Yassin, who used a wheelchair, was lightly wounded in an Israeli missile strike in Gaza City. At the time he vowed "jihad will continue."
Thousands of Palestinian Hamas supporters marched through the streets in support of Yassin after the strike last year.
Yassin founded Hamas in 1987, during the Palestinian intifada. Hamas is a fundamentalist Islamic organization whose military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, has carried out attacks on Israeli civilian and military targets. The U.S. State Department and Israel consider Hamas a terrorist organization.
An Israeli court convicted Yassin in 1989 of ordering Hamas members to kidnap and kill two Israeli soldiers.
He was sentenced to life in prison, but was freed in 1997 under the terms of a deal arranged by the late King Hussein of Jordan, who asked Israel to release Yassin in exchange for two Israeli Mossad agents, who attempted to assassinate Khalid Mishaal, a Hamas leader in Jordan.
The Palestinian Authority has placed Yassin under house arrest on a number of occasions since his release, most recently in December, 2001, after a series of terror attacks that killed 25 Israelis.
That detention triggered demonstrations and clashes with Palestinian police.
Yassin was born in 1938 in what was then the British mandate of Palestine. His family became refugees in Gaza during the violence that followed Israel's creation in 1948.
On September 15, twin suicide bombings jointly claimed by Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades killed 10 people in the Israeli port city of Ashdod.
Immediately after the terrorist bombings, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon canceled a planned meeting with Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qorei.
The scheduled talks were an attempt to revive the so-called "road map" to Mideast peace.
The plan, backed by the United States, European Union, United Nations and Russia, calls for steps by both sides aimed at ending the conflict and establishing an independent Palestinian state by 2005.
shadowflyer
03-22-2004, 07:08
I was reading on FOXnews.com about how Hamas has directly threatened the US this time.
Has HAMAS ever directly threatened the US before like this or is this just saber rattling due to the loss of their "spiritual leader"?
Does this make our job in the ME easier or harder now?
Kyobanim
03-22-2004, 07:42
Originally posted by shadowflyer
I was reading on FOXnews.com about how Hamas has directly threatened the US this time.
Has HAMAS ever directly threatened the US before like this or is this just saber rattling due to the loss of their "spiritual leader"?
Does this make our job in the ME easier or harder now?
I just watched a show on the History Channel sunday where the "spokesperson" ( I can't remember his name," for Hamas was interviewed and stated that they never had and never would target Americans on their own ground. 10 seconds later it was revealed that Hamas was encouraging Iraqis to go to America and use suicide bombers to attack Americans.
Maybe they won't do it themselves but it looks like it doesn't stop them from doing it with a proxy. I'll try to find the name of the show.
NousDefionsDoc
03-22-2004, 09:40
Is this a good policy of Israel's?
I think so, but I think they need to make arafat the number one target.
Team Sergeant
03-22-2004, 09:47
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Is this a good policy of Israel's?
As I see it, they’re making the world a much safer place, one dead terrorist at a time!
NousDefionsDoc
03-22-2004, 09:49
Originally posted by ktek01
I think so, but I think they need to make arafat the number one target.
Wonder why they haven't?
Team Sergeant
03-22-2004, 09:53
Head of state thing I'm sure. Plus it would most likely kick off a full scale war. Terrorist leader of a terrorist nation, he should have been killed long ago.
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Wonder why they haven't?
I think the Israeli's are divided on the issue, some think he is the biggest obstacle and needs to be removed to make any progress, while others think that will just set off another wave of violence. I think the main issue is what the Team Sergeant touched on, and Israel has only themselves to blame for that. They broke the number one rule, they negotiated with a terrorist and helped him move into the world of legit politics. Once they did that it no longer became a simple matter of killing a terrorist leader, he is now a head of state, one they have sat down and had peace talks with. Hard to change your mind after the fact, when you don’t like how things are going. I don’t buy him as a legit politician, he is still a terrorist scumbag IMO, but they tried to work with him as one and it has turned it into a complicated mess for them. Should have killed him first, and then held discussions with the PA, but I think they thought he was the only one all of the Palestinians would listen to.
NousDefionsDoc
03-22-2004, 11:18
I didn't know Palestine was a state
The Reaper
03-22-2004, 11:24
If the Izzies knew what car he was in to strike, I just wish we had actionable intel like that. Hell of a intel system, and fusion with the ops side.
TR
NousDefionsDoc
03-22-2004, 11:30
Originally posted by The Reaper
If the Izzies knew what car he was in to strike, I just wish we had actionable intel like that. Hell of a intel system, and fusion with the ops side.
TR
We could do it too if we were fighting the Mexicans or Canadians right next door.
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
We could do it too if we were fighting the Mexicans or Canadians right next door.
"If frogs had wings he wouldn't bump his ass" or "If flies and mosquitoes had guns, frogs wouldn't touch them"!
Our enemies happen to reside abroad.
OBL was spotted long ago. The past administration didn't have the foresight to strike first; then again maybe they didn't have the intestinal fortitude to undertake such a preemptive strike.:eek:
The Israelis have tried to take him out of the picture without killing him... With Arafat, they are afraid of making a martyr out of him and there is always the question of what would replace him. He is the ultimate form scum on the earth, but like the worm he is he has managed to dig himself deep into the stinking corpse of Palestinian nationalism, feeding off of its roting heart. The man is the epitome of the fork tounged back biter. I think in the Israeli mind, there has to be somebody there to negotiate with and maybe the known is better than the unknown to them. Then again the Israeli political system its plauged by its own scizophrenic apparati for policy making decision power. If only Arafat would do the world a favor and die in his sleep.
As to Hamas good riddance, but let's see who replaces him. When Sayid Qutb died as the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, much worse than him followed in his wake. Cutting the head off this snake doesn't kill it, it just grows another bigger one.
NousDefionsDoc
03-22-2004, 12:23
Originally posted by Guy
"If frogs had wings he wouldn't bump his ass" or "If flies and mosquitoes had guns, frogs wouldn't touch them"!
Our enemies happen to reside abroad.
OBL was spotted long ago. The past administration didn't have the foresight to strike first; then again maybe they didn't have the intestinal fortitude to undertake such a preemptive strike.:eek:
Mad because its time to take the poodles to the dog park?
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I didn't know Palestine was a state
Are they? I don’t consider them one, but Israel did start down that path with them. I don’t know if they are considered a full-fledged state yet, but I think they are far enough along that it has caused Israel to take that into consideration before they take action. I don’t like it, I would just go ahead and take out all the terrorists and so-called "former terrorists" and then turn to whoever is left and say "Ready to talk seriously now?"
Palestine is NOT a state. Before 1967 the West Bank was Jordanian territory and the Gaza strip was Egyptian territory. Hey at certain points the Israelis tried to make them take it back, but they didn't even want it. Before that it was the English who governed it as a mandate. Before that the Ottomans as a part of a larger province. They have never been a state. There are Palestinians, for what its worth, had at one point been granted some autonomy in areas around Jericho and Gaza that were controled by the PA (former PLO). But then all the shit hit the fan and the Israelis went in to do some cleaning up.
As to Hamas good riddance, but let's see who replaces him. When Sayid Qutb died as the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, much worse than him followed in his wake. Cutting the head off this snake doesn't kill it, it just grows another bigger one.
then may calamity befall the "spiritual leader" of the mother of Yassin.
Radar Rider
03-23-2004, 02:44
I say good riddance and say 'Hi' to Allah (you terrorist bastard). Israel has every right to defend itself, and if taking this turd out causes "repercussions", so be it. Why? The Palestinians (who aren't a real people anyway, but a conglomeration of losers that no other Arab country wants in their land) claim that they will attack unmercifully. They've been doing that crap and this is their payback. If they want to keep screwing around and kill innocent Israelis, then the payback will be extreme, AND what they deserve.
Now they threaten the United States? It must feel truly powerful to be able to sign one's own death warrant.