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If I missed/overlooked something I apologize. Please point me in the right direction.
I enrolled in the 18D non-resident prep course through ATRRS and am waiting for my materials to make it to my house, so the wife can forward them here. I looked through the ACCP catalog, here, and even asked the guy I had to call down in SA about what exactly the course entails and couldn't get anything.
I was wondering if anyone else has taken this course and could offer some insight as to what subjects are covered, and also how long it took you to get everything. I got the email confirming my course reservation, and another that said the materials had been mailed, but that was about 3 weeks or so ago. I figured they would have at least made it to my house by now.
Anyway, not like I have a whole lot else to do while I'm stuck here.... Figured some prep work would help break up the time between working and rucking :D
Thanks in advance,
Bull
Aequitas
04-19-2006, 22:02
If I missed/overlooked something I apologize. Please point me in the right direction.
I enrolled in the 18D non-resident prep course through ATRRS and am waiting for my materials to make it to my house, so the wife can forward them here. I looked through the ACCP catalog, here, and even asked the guy I had to call down in SA about what exactly the course entails and couldn't get anything.
I was wondering if anyone else has taken this course and could offer some insight as to what subjects are covered, and also how long it took you to get everything. I got the email confirming my course reservation, and another that said the materials had been mailed, but that was about 3 weeks or so ago. I figured they would have at least made it to my house by now.
Anyway, not like I have a whole lot else to do while I'm stuck here.... Figured some prep work would help break up the time between working and rucking :D
Thanks in advance,
Bull
It took about that same amount of time for my stuff to show up...so expect it to come to you soon. Good luck!
Thanks for the help. Hopefully it will make it to the house in the next few days then and I can get it sent over here so I can get to work.
haztacmedic
05-19-2006, 15:08
Have you got anything yet? I was hoping you would tell us if the pre course work is helping you.
I actually got the stuff a little bit after that last post. Took about another week for the wife to mail it over here, but I finally got all of it. I thought at first that it wouldn't be that much of a help after seeing the courses because it is designed for non medical MOS's, and I'm an EMT with prior EMS experience. It has been, in fact, pretty beneficial as though they are relatively basic subjects they are covered much more in depth than that of my EMT experience. Quite a few hours for correspondance too!
I'm not sure if the 2 courses available are different though. I'm in 18D-SOCM (for non 91 MOS's). They also have 18D-PREP (for 91 and other med. guys). You can find out through ATRRS. I'm going to finish this course up, and if the 2 are different see if I can get a waiver for the other one.
If nothing else, even if someone weren't to get selected, it's still good to know info that will help anyone out interested in the medical field and the correspondance hours are good for promotion points.
haztacmedic
05-25-2006, 11:00
I just enrolled myself. I got a confirmation e-mail telling me that it would be two weeks before I got anything. Anyhow, Im looking foward to the lessons.
Surgicalcric
05-25-2006, 17:22
...if the 2 are different see if I can get a waiver for the other one...
While the Prep Course is recommended it isnt a requirement to start training, therefore a waiver isnt needed. That having been said, if there are more guys waiting to start the course than there are slots (38 per class) the guys who have the greatest chance of completing the course will be picked to start first (ie: EMT's, Paramedics, 91W, and guys who have completed the Prep Course.) The prep course can do nothing but help so set yourself up for success.
Guys having to attend an Academic Review Board for not passing Med Funds get asked about their preparations for coming to JSOMT-C. hint-hint
HTH,
Crip
haztacmedic
05-25-2006, 17:36
Crip: Thanks for the intel. I hope things are going well for you.
haztacmedic
08-19-2006, 18:40
Ive nearly completed the 18-D prep correspondence course. I found some of the material to be a great review and some of it to be a great learning source on things like diseases of military importance...these are things we dont focus on in civy EMS.
Any one else got any feed back?
D9 (RIP)
08-20-2006, 19:43
Like Crip said: do the prep course because they will want you to have it done before they send you to the schoolhouse for training. When you get here, if there is still a logjam at student company waiting to come over to the 18D course, then you will be selected to begin sooner if you have completed that course. So do the course b/c it is expected of you by student company and will help move you up in priority for getting enrolled (which means less time on landscaping details waiting for the next class).
But if you want to ACTUALLY prepare yourself for the course, then the absolute best thing you can do is find a copy of this book:
Essentials of Anatomy and Physiology, Third Edition, Martini/Bartholomew (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321175689/sr=1-1/qid=1156124730/ref=sr_1_1/104-2989252-7903943?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Even if you can't find this one in your price range and you have to get an old, used copy of the second edition, do it.
That is the textbook that is used in Med Fundamentals, and you can do yourself no better favor than prereading that book - especially if you do not have a medical background. I am not kidding, you are pretty much going to have to know it cover to cover anyway. If you can preread it in advance - even if you don't fully understand everything you read - you will understand far more when you hear it again in lectures and are able to ask the questions you have.
I've given that advice to a lot of people starting the course, and I don't know of anyone that's taken it yet. But someone told me to do it, and I did, and as far as I'm concerned it's the best possible preparation for the course.
If that's out of your price range then I highly recommend you find a friend in SOCM who is done with MedFunds and who will loan you his book while you're waiting to class up.
It's not just about passing med funds (not a trivial matter in itself). It's about really understanding anatomy and physiology. The better grasp of the structure and function of the human body you come away from med fundamentals with, the more sense EVERYTHING you learn for the rest of the course is going to make. If you have a good grasp of A&P, everything you learn from that point on will reinforce and expand on your base of knowledge. If you take the road more often travelled here, and cram for the exams while putting minimal emphasis on really understanding the fundamentals, then each new idea that is introduced subsequently will be more difficult for you.
I'm beginning the last phase of the 18D course right now, and last Friday we had a lecture from one of the Colonel/Doctors here on anesthesiology. He closed that lecture with a review of pulmonary gas exchange, and at the end said he was about to give us the best piece of advice he could send us out the door with. "Go back to the beginning," he said, "and fill in all the holes - and dig deeper - into your anatomy and physiology. If you really understand that, everything else is gravy."
I would do the prep-course to satisfy the Army. I would pre-read that book so I could become the kind of medic my team deserves.
FWIW
Crip and D9's advice is solid.
People seem concerned with figuring out the best way to prepare for the volume of information presented in the course. This is natural; we all want to do the best we can. Understand this though: the sweat is going to have to come from somewhere. Whether you learn it now or later, if you want to be successful, you've got to know it. Even better, as my math teacher Dad says, "know it backwards and forwards."
I derailed a trip to nursing school to come to the Q and with my pre-nursing classes out of the way (Bio, Micro, Chem, Math, and six months of ANP) my trials and tribulations in the course aren't as nutty as some of the other fellows. It's not that I'm any better than the other Joes; I just got a head start and sweated it then rather then now. And it's not that I don't have questions now, I just have different questions.
Work is work is work. Magic boots won't help you ruck faster or farther and magic study aids are nonexistant.
BTW, the Martini's Fundamentals is the book used by the instructors and is about twice the volume of info as the crummy Essentials version we students were issued. The Fundamentals book is worth its weight in gold. If you can't afford it, you can certainly find it at your friendly neighborhood/post library.
my .02s
Books
haztacmedic
08-21-2006, 07:13
Books: Thank you for the good information. Im headed out the door to see about this A+P book. By the way I've also signed on for the SOCM prep course. You can never learn too much medicine can you?
Good luck to you.
HTM
submariner
08-23-2006, 15:26
I am thinking of purchasing the Fundamentals for my son, just selected as an 18D (started CLT yesterday).
He has a birthday coming up, and what better than something to help him be successful in his chosen career. But, I could not find one positive review on the Amazon link provided earlier in this string. Just wanted to verify that this will be worth it. Are there any other Anatomy and Physiology texts that would suffice. Will go with the consensus recommendation.
Not that it's necessarily any indication of quality - who knows what politics are involved in textbook success - but the Martini book is in its 7th Edition.
I couldn't figure out much about the backgrounds of those making comments on Amazon regarding the book, so I don't feel I can adequately evaluate said comments. Just trying to consider the source. That said, I'll give you my background and comment and you can make the call.
I am a 32 yr/o liberally educated male (BA English) who has completed the pre-nursing sequence and is currently enrolled in the 18D program. FWIW.
I had to first use the book whether I liked it or not for a two quarter ANP class taught by a university endocrinologist. The man was brilliant and I worked and learned tons. The Martini book is for a nursing level of ANP though, not a Med school one. In med school, Anatomy is one book, Physiology another. My friends who took a radically different career track and are either in or finishing their residencies have text books I drool over. One day when I'm rich enough, I'll buy them. One book in particular is Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy, used last I heard at UNC Medical School (and others). Compared to these types of books, Martini's book will certainly come up short.
At the JSOMTC, the Med Fund instuctors base their lectures from the material presented in the Martini Fundamentals book and then issue the students the abridged version, the Essentials of ANP. I found that when I was taking the class, I had many questions the shorter book couldn't answer. Fortunately, the instructors (Mr. A, Mr. H, and Mr. G in particular) were more than happy to oblige me.
Here's the nuts and bolts. For better or worse, in the first 6 weeks or so (things change. . .) a new student will have every organ system covered, that organ system's pathology, major medical emergencies and their treatments, be introduced to approximately 100 or so drugs, Medication Administration of those drugs (basic algebra), and trained in medical examination, among other things. No matter how you look at it, it's just a lot of information to digest. Even after having my prior experience, I still studied a few hours each night and came in on the weekends to make sure I got it. I'm still working on it.
Any head start you get will be a good thing. How you get there is up to you. I had good success with Martini's Foundations. I believe because of the reasons specific to JSOMTC, it would be a good resource and a good gift.
Hope that helps. Good luck to your son.
Books
D9 (RIP)
08-23-2006, 20:28
Who cares if it's the best textbook according to Amazon.com? It's THE textbook used in the course your son will attend if he makes it this far. I can't make a more emphatic recommendation than that.
I also respectfully disagree with Books regarding the value of the Essentials text (as against the Fundamentals text). I preread that and it more than prepared me for the material in the course. I can't think of any personal examples where I needed information for the course that wasn't available in the Essentials book. I'm sure the Fundamentals book used by the cadre is probably more thorough, but it's my opinion that for the average student A&P is difficult enough in the beginning without the extra stuff. I'm at the tail end of the course and my Essentials book is still an adequate reference for my purposes.
FWIW.
Eagle5US
08-23-2006, 20:49
Don't waste your money on Netter-
Want the most effective and proven learning tools for anatomy and physiciology? Get the Anatomy and Physiology coloring books and a good set of 50, or so, colored pencils.
You read about the part, then you look at the part carefully as you color it (to not go outside the lines and make it look pretty) then you look at it again as you color the parts adjacent to it.
There are hundreds of anatomy books...they all have the same basic parts inside-Schick Charts are great-cheap-and appropriate.
As was said earlier-it's all work, and lots of it. "The Best Book" for anyone on anything is the book that an individual relates to and can learn from.
Good luck
Eagle
+1 for the coloring books, they are very helpful. It's also one of the few books issued to us that we get to keep. . . how generous.;)
x SF med
08-24-2006, 21:25
Books-
ANY of the textbooks is available to keep, all you have to do is go to a college bookstore, or Amazon and plonk down the cash. If you don't buy a Taber's and a Merck during the course, you'll have to buy them once you get to your Team. I still have my medical library, and even update it occasionally. Expensive, but you have to realize your buddies' lives depend on you keeping up with your reading and studying on your own. The Q is just the initial learning, you have to keep up.
Just my .02, from experience - oh yeah, NREMT-P REQUIRES CME credits and periodic retesting to current standards, nothing is free.
submariner
08-25-2006, 09:14
Books,
Thanks for the response. You make some very cogent points. Understanding that there are A&P texts designed for different audiences helps with understanding the reviews.
D9, Thank you too. Although the Essentials was/is good for you, I will err on the side of too much information. When I was going through the nuclear power pipeline in the Navy, more info was better for me. Especially on some of the more difficult concepts. Sometimes that one last way of explaining or showing something caused that proverbial lightbulb to click.
Books-
ANY of the textbooks is available to keep, all you have to do is go to a college bookstore, or Amazon and plonk down the cash. If you don't buy a Taber's and a Merck during the course, you'll have to buy them once you get to your Team. I still have my medical library, and even update it occasionally. Expensive, but you have to realize your buddies' lives depend on you keeping up with your reading and studying on your own. The Q is just the initial learning, you have to keep up.
Just my .02, from experience - oh yeah, NREMT-P REQUIRES CME credits and periodic retesting to current standards, nothing is free.
Roger that x_sf_med! We've been told by cadre that we should put in for the books when we get to our team and that our "work medical library" moves with us through our career. As for keeping a personal library, well, my screen name should say it all.
Other than the general medicine books (Merck, etc.), are there any others that you've found particularly valuable? For example, one of my instructors highly recommended that we get a couple of Sports Medicine exam/treatment books so we could bone up on shoulder, knee and ankle injuries.
x SF med
08-25-2006, 21:02
Books-
What's good for me, may be horrible for you - I go to the bookstore and browse, and then realize, I can't pay rent when I'm done, and really need to get a bigger car before I go home....
I used to work for a major publisher, so all I had to do was ask the medical division for anything I wanted (after I was out of SF, as karma would have it)
I liked "A Complete Guide to Sports Injuries" it was a quick find manual, and if you needed more info - get a Sports Medicine Text - Google is agreat resource for JAMA articles etc.
I hope I didn't just give you areason to spend your next paycheck in a bookstore.
Mr. Freeze
08-27-2006, 19:37
Eagle is right on with the A&P coloring series; my dad bought me one 20 years ago to keep me occupied while he worked on his PhD. I'm still using the exact same one in medical school, although I colored in most plates long ago.
There is obviously no replacement for pre-reading the actual book used for the course. I still use my Martini 4th Ed. from EMT-I. That said, there is an anatomist, Kyung Chung, that writes a book for medical licensing board review called Gross Anatomy BRS which a lot of people use instead of Netter's Atlas. It is very concise and geared entirely towards clinical application. Nearly all of the end of chapter questions involve some sort of GSW, stabbing, or blunt trauma; answering accurately requires knowledge of spatial and functional relationships between structures to diagnose/treat the injury.
As a disclaimer, I know nothing about the pipeline you can't read here, I lurk a whole lot more than I post, and I just try to absorb what I can from the best medical professionals on the planet...
haztacmedic
08-27-2006, 20:31
Getting slightly back on the original subject slightly: Some of the correspondence courses are out of date. The CPR course is definitely out dated and the Blood, Electrolytes, and IV infusions course emphasizes performing a veinous cut down when normal attempts fail. A veinous cut down may be life saving but now days medics can place needles directly into a patient's bone marrow cavity (procedure is called interosseous infusion and is simple to perform) to provide Fluid replacement, and medications. This more current procedure is not included in the course...Still though this is a good learning experience and a review at times as I stated in previous post.
HTM
haztacmedic
09-13-2006, 11:40
I just finished the Drug calculations sub course and I have to say that it definitely was a good (difficult experience) in math and in calculating drug doses. There were some problems in the course I have never had to calculate. Any one else have the same experience?
HTM
Surgicalcric
09-13-2006, 13:56
...There were some problems in the course I have never had to calculate. Any one else have the same experience?
HTM
I had the same issue, with respect to calculating doses and drips, in Med Funds (first 4 weeks of SOCM). Its not too bad though. The dimensional analysis was strange at first but its easier than long math in the end.
Crip
haztacmedic
09-14-2006, 17:05
Crip: Did you find this stuff more difficult than your paramedic calculations you already had? There is a few problems in the exam that normally are calculated by pharmacy staff in a normal hospital setting.
HTM
Surgicalcric
09-14-2006, 18:58
i wouldnt say more difficult, just different. It was pretty easy once I figured out the dimensional analysis. I had a mental block for a day or so and couldnt let go of the long math I had learned some 13 years ago.
Crip
Got to finish Pharm Calc tomorrow then I am D, U, N, DONE with the prep course! On to bigger and better things...
... like more rucking.
I have been looking for the course on both ATTARS & ACCP and can't find it on either one. Is there anyone that knows the course number and the actual course name?
Scimitar
06-21-2008, 17:49
OK,
It is kinda hard to find them. It is on ATTARS, but you find the actual course downloads on https://rdl.train.army.mil/soldierPortal/soldier.portal
The whole course is referred to as 081-18DPrep
WARNING: this info is a bit old but should still be solid
There are 11 Sub-courses
MD0006 - Basic Human Anatomy = 26 hrs
MD0007 - Basic Human Physiology = 26 hrs
MD0010 - Basic medical terminology = 5 hrs
MD0532 - CPR = 10 hrs
MD0801 - Prescription interpretation = 3 hrs
MD0802 - Pharmaceutical calculations = 10 hrs
MD0803 - General chemistry = 14 hrs
MD0851 - A&P related to clinical pathology = 6 hrs
MD0852 - Urinalysis = 7 hrs
MD0900 - Basic math = 8 hrs
MD0913 - Drug dosage and therapy = 16 hrs
Simply type the code in the keyword section and hit the submit button on the right hand side
Excluding the A&P which is covered in more detail in the textbooks recommended here you're looking at 79 hrs worth of work + your own A&P Study
Hope this helps
S
Scimitar
06-21-2008, 18:07
You can find MD0851 here
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3172930/US-army-medical-course-anatomy-and-physiology-related-to-clinical-pathology-md0851
Not sure why its not on "train" anymore, maybe not part of course now?
S
Thanks! I finally got a chance to get online and find it and enroll. I figure that it will help since I am downrange and can only do so much to train out here. I also picked up the coloring books and the A&P textbook too. I figure that with this and some hard work I will be sitting on a decent level once I get to the course.:cool:
Doctor Porkchop
11-19-2008, 10:26
Thanks to all of you, your advice is worth more than gold. I've started the amedd prep course and found it somewhat easy to understand so I followed the advice on this thread and bought the anatomy and physiology fundamentals book and is really good. I'm still waiting for my phase II date but i figured that the more i sweat right now the less i'll suffer during socm or sfms, also i'll be enrolling in the emt-b on a nearby school, hopefully that will add up more to my knowledge base(as a 21B, it sucks not having any medical background). Thanks again guys.:confused:
Aequitas
11-19-2008, 11:58
Thanks to all of you, your advice is worth more than gold. I've started the amedd prep course and found it somewhat easy to understand so I followed the advice on this thread and bought the anatomy and physiology fundamentals book and is really good. I'm still waiting for my phase II date but i figured that the more i sweat right now the less i'll suffer during socm or sfms, also i'll be enrolling in the emt-b on a nearby school, hopefully that will add up more to my knowledge base(as a 21B, it sucks not having any medical background). Thanks again guys.:confused:
Personally I wouldn't waist my time with a EMT-B course brother. Stick to the guidelines given to you and focus on the 25m target. You have many more important things to worry about right now than taking some EMT-B course that will either 1) give you bad habits (which the cadre fucking hate) or 2) teach you out of date material by the time you get to the 18D course. Just my .02s so take for what it's worth. For now I would focus on Pt and getting ready for phase 2 and SERE. Don't worry about not knowing any medical stuff before the course. You will learn more than you ever dreamed and then some. More people than you could imagine have been where you are and made it through with no problem. Others haven't. Good luck with the course. Just don't get to far ahead of yourself. Things in the Q change daily...
Eagle5US
01-03-2009, 12:56
Im hoping to re-class to an 18D from 18B. I just finished an EMT-B program in an attempt to get some baseline knowledge. But as difficult as some of the program was, overall it really was not that difficult.
I guess my question is, of anyones opinion, is EMT-B a fair into to any fraction of what one may encounter in the course. Ive also been focusing much of my study time to further understanding of Anatomy and physiology. Ive been researching some of the books posted on this thread and some more to try to find something that was in my price range. I bought a text book "Anatomy and Physiology/Paramedic" Distributed by a company called AAOS. ( www.Paramedic.EMSzone.com ) as a start point until i can get a date for the course.
Is the level of understanding a EMT-B or EMT-P receives on A and P similar to that in the 18D course?
In a word no. The EMT-P level is instructed within the first few months of the course...you then have more than 2/3rds of the course to complete.
The 18D course is significantly more advanced in the understanding of physiologic systems so that you understand more of the "why" that you are doing things. EMT-B / P allows your reliance on some sort of medical control and rapid transport. the 18D understands that you are on your own and may not have transport for days, if at all.
Bottom line, the "stuff" that your skin is wrapped around is all pretty much in the same place regardless of what book you buy or who teaches it.
If you really want to learn and understand what's in there and how it works....but the Anatomy coloring book and the physiology coloring book, a good set of 100 or so colored pencils, and practice your attention to detail as you start at the beginning of each and color your way through to the end.
HTH / good luck-
Eagle
pennywise
01-03-2009, 22:29
SF718 Anything that you can learn prior to course that will help, well you now have had some sort of intro with the EMT-B. That is better than most that have coming into the course. Brother you will spend many a night studying A&P etc.
Each system aka anatomy through surg and anesth is taught on the platform by a live or in some cases semi-automated instructors. Just sit back and hang on for the ride. and last but not least , remember you are back in SWC. You will probably spend more time baby sitting as class leader than studying so set aside a quite place to study after school. also never mind anything you hear about a certain instructor there that roller bladed around the top floor naked in clown make-up, its a lie I tell you!:cool:
pennywise
01-03-2009, 22:55
All you want!!! remember 90% percent of those kids are underwear models. The squids and the force retards can run like the wind! not to mention the foreign students "KSK" etc So ya gotta bring it! and also have a very large bag of Shut the F--- Up! You will be saying that phrase so much, you would think you adopted 100 kids on Concerta! Concerta = ADDHD meds. hah! Thats medical humor!
pennywise
02-03-2009, 02:27
Nope , actually you get to be the demo! Onstage! also you are the demo for the for the tug and poke on the twig and berries:o
All you want!!! remember 90% percent of those kids are underwear models. The squids and the force retards can run like the wind! not to mention the foreign students "KSK" etc So ya gotta bring it! and also have a very large bag of Shut the F--- Up! You will be saying that phrase so much, you would think you adopted 100 kids on Concerta! Concerta = ADDHD meds. hah! Thats medical humor!Stay safe.
Like Crip said: do the prep course because they will want you to have it done before they send you to the schoolhouse for training. When you get here, if there is still a logjam at student company waiting to come over to the 18D course, then you will be selected to begin sooner if you have completed that course. So do the course b/c it is expected of you by student company and will help move you up in priority for getting enrolled (which means less time on landscaping details waiting for the next class).
But if you want to ACTUALLY prepare yourself for the course, then the absolute best thing you can do is find a copy of this book:
Essentials of Anatomy and Physiology, Third Edition, Martini/Bartholomew (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321175689/sr=1-1/qid=1156124730/ref=sr_1_1/104-2989252-7903943?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Even if you can't find this one in your price range and you have to get an old, used copy of the second edition, do it.
That is the textbook that is used in Med Fundamentals, and you can do yourself no better favor than prereading that book - especially if you do not have a medical background. I am not kidding, you are pretty much going to have to know it cover to cover anyway. If you can preread it in advance - even if you don't fully understand everything you read - you will understand far more when you hear it again in lectures and are able to ask the questions you have.
I've given that advice to a lot of people starting the course, and I don't know of anyone that's taken it yet. But someone told me to do it, and I did, and as far as I'm concerned it's the best possible preparation for the course.
If that's out of your price range then I highly recommend you find a friend in SOCM who is done with MedFunds and who will loan you his book while you're waiting to class up.
It's not just about passing med funds (not a trivial matter in itself). It's about really understanding anatomy and physiology. The better grasp of the structure and function of the human body you come away from med fundamentals with, the more sense EVERYTHING you learn for the rest of the course is going to make. If you have a good grasp of A&P, everything you learn from that point on will reinforce and expand on your base of knowledge. If you take the road more often travelled here, and cram for the exams while putting minimal emphasis on really understanding the fundamentals, then each new idea that is introduced subsequently will be more difficult for you.
I'm beginning the last phase of the 18D course right now, and last Friday we had a lecture from one of the Colonel/Doctors here on anesthesiology. He closed that lecture with a review of pulmonary gas exchange, and at the end said he was about to give us the best piece of advice he could send us out the door with. "Go back to the beginning," he said, "and fill in all the holes - and dig deeper - into your anatomy and physiology. If you really understand that, everything else is gravy."
I would do the prep-course to satisfy the Army. I would pre-read that book so I could become the kind of medic my team deserves.
FWIW
Since this post is a couple of years old and there is now a fourth edition to this book, I was wondering if someone could tell me which edition they are using for the class now, and if I should get the fourth edition instead of the third? I would appreciate this information very much.
Also I have been searching the ATTARS website and it keeps saying that "081-18DPrep does not exist." Is this training no longer available? Thank you again.
Dan
Surgicalcric
02-26-2009, 17:40
Since this post is a couple of years old and there is now a fourth edition to this book, I was wondering if someone could tell me which edition they are using for the class now, and if I should get the fourth edition instead of the third? I would appreciate this information very much...
At your level the edition changes arent significant enough to split hairs over. Pick up any edition and start reading and while you are at it get the A&P coloring book and a pack of 64 color pencils and go to work on that as well...
I will leave the Prep course stuff to someone else; I havent a clue...
Scimitar
02-27-2009, 01:19
It is kinda hard to find them. It is on ATTARS, but you find the actual course downloads on https://rdl.train.army.mil/soldierPortal/soldier.portal
The whole course is referred to as 081-18DPrep
Dan,
Type this "081-18DPrep" into the Search field here (https://atrrs.army.mil/atrrscc/search.aspx),
It shows up.
Hope that helps
Scimitar
ATTENTION:
Active Duty or National Guard
Non-Prior-Service CMF18 recruits
Who desire or have contracted MOS 18D
My understanding from the ATTARS people is that you need to have shipped to Basic before you can actually enrol in this course. However you can study for it before then by simply downloading the documents as per links.
Once at your Basic Training Inprocessing Station you are officially "in the Army" and can therefore enrol in the course and then test out of it virtually the same day. Approach one of your Cadre during your inprocessing period or at Basic Airborne School, you should be able to get the time to enrol and test out.
The theory is that you will hit SFAS with the course pass on your record, improving you chance of 18D if you don’t already have it guaranteed or if you do have it contracted improve your preparedness for the 18D program.
Don't not study this just because you can't actually enrol in it yet.
Any corrections or additions welcome.
Thank you very much gentlemen. I will be getting those books as soon as possible and have registered for the Prep class. And if anyone has any advice on preparing for Selection, the Q Course or 18D I would love to hear, please feel free to PM me. For now I am reading whatever I find (books and this forum) to prepare myself mentally.
Dan
The Reaper
03-05-2009, 20:11
Thank you very much gentlemen. I will be getting those books as soon as possible and have registered for the Prep class. And if anyone has any advice on preparing for Selection, the Q Course or 18D I would love to hear, please feel free to PM me. For now I am reading whatever I find (books and this forum) to prepare myself mentally.
Dan
Dan:
You will find more than enough info if you read and use the Search button here.
No point in PMing it to one person, if it would be of benefit to all.
TR
doubleohseven
08-04-2009, 14:16
Just an update on this course, I enrolled in 18D-prep in early March while I was still downrange. The entire course is available online now including the exams through ALMS. I am not sure if new enrollments will auto enrolled for the online version, as I when I started the course I got the scantrons and exams in the mail, and recently recieved an email for every course converted to the online version. I did have to email AMEDD to get old test scores posted. Otherwise I would have had to retake exams.
If you have the exam books, filling them out like a work book while you go through the course is still the best way to maxmize your score, the test is open book so I don't believe this is unethical.
You will surpass the entire prep course within your first week of SOCM...not to say that you shouldn't do it, just, they have a particular way of teaching and testing everything anyways. good luck
Doctor Porkchop
01-29-2010, 21:15
Just got done with medfunds block and I can't believe how much the 18DPrep course helped, I have no medical background at all and still managed to maintain a high GPA. I mostly focused on the anatomy and physiology modules of the course before I started medfunds, it made the material a lot easier to understand and regurgitate; anyone out there like me aspiring to become an 18D should benefit from this prep course, and if for whatever reason you can't get access to the prep course then get a A&P book at your library and STUDY, as long as you do something prior to coming here, even if you have medical background brush up on the basics unless you want to find yourself seen as a s@$%t bag for failing all tests( Yes, nurses, X-ray techs do fail this course too, unbelievable but true). Just my 2 cents.
PS:Thanks to warrior mentor again for his excellent book which I read sometimes when needing to stay motivated.