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I know the boot discussion has been pounded on, but I have not found much on either of these boots. I just ordered them recently. Oakly Si and 5.11 HRT. I wonder, has anyone ever owned a pair? Any testomonials?:D
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zeroalpha
04-11-2006, 23:25
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Sarcasm... Unnecessary. Helpful comments, please. If I've done something wrong, enlighten me.
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Why you would make Desert Tactical Boots airtight is beyond me, but they are.
Sounds like what I need. It gets ridiculously cold in our training areas.
Sorry for bringing up old topics. My search skills need improvement. Most of the time what comes up is irrelevent. This time, however, I found the info I needed on the 5.11. Thanks zeroalpha.
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Basicload
04-12-2006, 07:41
It would help me to give you the proper recommendation if I knew wether you were going to buy these with your own money or if your unit was going to purchase them for you.
I have no experience with the 5.11 boots but I have a great deal of experience with the Oakley assault and desert assault boot.
bottom line up front: NOT WORTH THE MONEY if its your money.
If you buy them from the Oakley military sales program, you can get them for as cheap as 75 bucks and then they are OK. I saw kids in "the pipeline" that were paying full retail $225.00!!:eek:
The boots are soft and comfy but not suited for "field use". They are not water proof and are a giant sponge if they get wet. They retain water/sweat for a while which causes them to stink to high heaven over time. I had to sleep with mine outside of my hooch downrange and I live alone!
The construction is also not very good as well. These are not "boot, Jungle-OD, with spike resistant sole, 1ea. They are not going to last you more than a few months of everyday use in a harsh environment. I took and brand new pair downrange and the inner liner had holes worn in it in less than 90 days.
These were designed for people that wanted an "assault boot" thats what it is, people that use it for missions other than short duration Urban DA will most likely be disappointed. The designers also did not really care about long term durability because of their ability to DX the boots for new pair for free anytime that they want to. I know guys that are going through 8 pair of Oakley boots every 12 months on the high end.
If you are paying out of pocket, I hope this helps you make an educated decision about how to spend YOUR money...cheers.
Eagle5US
04-12-2006, 08:03
Sarcasm my "not be necessary" but neither is it necessary for US to go thoguh this discussion on these EXACT SAME BOOTS AGAIN.
Use the search button, that is what it is there for. The sigh comment was a gentle hint. If you can't take it-perhaps you should spend your time elsewhere.
Eagle
Sorry for bringing up old topics. My search skills need improvement. Most of the time what comes up is irrelevent. This time, however, I found the info I needed on the 5.11. Thanks zeroalpha.
TFM:munchin Not a problem Eagle5US
Here is a pair of "high speed" boots, more often equipped with 100mph tape over the glow tape...
Here is a pair of "high speed" boots, more often equipped with 100mph tape over the glow tape...Anything with 100mph tape on it is definitely high speed.
Warrior-Mentor
04-12-2006, 14:19
Got a pair issue from my unit. With less than a year wear on them, the soles are separating from the leather. Wouldn't buy them with my own money - especially at full price.
They're comfortable - just not very durable.
JM
Here is a pair of "high speed" boots, more often equipped with 100mph tape over the glow tape...
O-the Days.. Snow caves and high altitude :D Love the PIX
The Reaper
04-12-2006, 15:09
Sounds like what I need. It gets ridiculously cold in our training areas.
TFM
Wet feet will not be warm feet for very long in cold weather.
TR
Warrior-Mentor
04-12-2006, 15:15
Wet feet will not be warm feet for very long in cold weather.
TR
Wearing these in wet weather would be like having wet sponges on your feet....sometimes easy to forget about things like rain out here in the desert South West.
JM
O-the Days.. Snow caves and high altitude :D Love the PIX
Low altitude and low speed, plenty of the white stuff though ;)
Wet feet will not be warm feet for very long in cold weather.
TR
Roger. But if they are air tight, well insulated, it should help keep out the cold. Frequent sock changes are a must with any boot, and in the cold, heaters to dry your boots are usually available.
The Reaper
04-13-2006, 09:27
Roger. But if they are air tight, well insulated, it should help keep out the cold. Frequent sock changes are a must with any boot, and in the cold heaters to dry your boots are usually available.
If you think you want air tight boots, try this low cost experiment: Take two plastic bags from loaves of bread, and pull them over your socks before you put your boots on. Then lace up and go do your thing normally. If you walk for 45 and rest for 15, do that, or whatever your routine is. Keep them on for at least eight hours and check your feet out. That is what they will look like after wearing the 5.11 HRT boots. There is a reason VB boots are warm, and are not marched in.
5.11 has started making the Coyote Desert boots without the sympatex lining (water proofing) and added vents on the instep. SF and SEAL units are trying them out now. Once I try a pair, I will pass on my impressions on them.
I do not know what you are basing your boot knowledge on, I have only operated as a grunt down to 55 below, so I may be missing something. We did not have boot dryers either.
TR
If you think you want air tight boots, try this low cost experiment: Take two plastic bags from loaves of bread, and pull them over your socks before you put your boots on. Then lace up and go do your thing normally. If you walk for 45 and rest for 15, do that, or whatever your routine is. Keep them on for at least eight hours and check your feet out. That is what they will look like after wearing the 5.11 HRT boots. There is a reason VB boots are warm, and are not marched in.
5.11 has started making the Coyote Desert boots without the sympatex lining (water proofing) and added vents on the instep. SF and SEAL units are trying them out now. Once I try a pair, I will pass on my impressions on them.
I do not know what you are basing your boot knowledge on, I have only operated as a grunt down to 55 below, so I may be missing something. We did not have boot dryers either.
TRWhat little knowlegde I have is based on trial and error. At this time its the best I have to go on. I am a bit more susceptable than most as I have had frostbite before. What most can just suck up tends to cause me a bit more of a problem. Whatever knowledge you have on keeping feet and or hands as warm as possible in the cold would be greatly appreciated. As far as usage, marching in them is a very low probability. Battle drills in snowy icy conditions is where it is at. A good mix of urban and woodline. I originally intended to get the Matterhorn 4949 boots, but I decided on the 5.11.